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 Fundsupermart.com v15, 基金超市第十五章 - Rise the Dragon

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post Sep 13 2016, 09:00 PM

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can someone lipot me i wanna see how it looks like being reported
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post Sep 21 2016, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 21 2016, 08:24 PM)
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This maybe one of the hardest question to answer to my mind so don't feel bad if you don't get it spot on, if you cash in your chips in a certain investment it will almost certainly go up, if you stick with it you will almost certainly sedition go down, could taking half be the answer?
Some said 'run your winners and cut your losers'.
While others said 'it's never a bad time to take profits'.

There is no correct time to take profits unless you are the only person in the world who can accurately time the markets, but profit, once taken, becomes real profit, in your hand.
If you think the euphoria will continue and markets will rise further next week and beyond, stay put and enjoy it: if not, consider taking some profits, to enjoy, or re-invest at a better time.

There is no right or wrong answers…it is just yours and other individuals.
Hope this helps.

(got these from the web...I cannot write that logical sense)
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I agree... take profit if you want and move on to find other opportunities..
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post Sep 22 2016, 08:09 PM

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Almost finished attachment with an asset management.. I think many of you guys own their fund.. very good fund rclxm9.gif

I dont own their fund.. so I guess I'm safe in terms of investment ethics.. otherwise I wouldve needed to sell all of the units related to the asset management before attaching with them.. sweat.gif

Anyone going to InvestSmart? The schedule is a little bit confusing.. they're named session 1, session 2, etc.. so I couldnt decide which ones I want to go to.. LOL

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post Sep 22 2016, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 22 2016, 10:44 PM)
You mean to say Public China Select Fund (PCSF)?  ranting.gif  bangwall.gif  vmad.gif  doh.gif

Get out, get out, while you still can.

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Haha no, nothing of the sort..
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post Sep 22 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Sep 22 2016, 10:55 PM)
Wow... which asset management? Can get me in also?
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Sorry.. me ikan bilis only..I dont have that kind of power cry.gif
Sifus here know much more than me.

QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 22 2016, 10:58 PM)
Me
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Care to share how to choose which session?
Obviously you're not going to all of them, right? sweat.gif

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post Sep 25 2016, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 25 2016, 01:32 PM)
what is the mutual objectives?
make money, finding the potential best and at lower volatility in funds investment?
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Thread name is Fundsupermart, I suppose the objective here is talk about fundsupermart funds investment only?
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post Sep 27 2016, 08:27 PM

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is it just me or RHB Islamic Bond dropped 3.80% today?

Edit: Oh wait, distribution? Didnt announce on FSM page so didnt notice lol

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post Sep 27 2016, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 27 2016, 08:39 PM)
yes most probably distribution time....
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almost gave me heart attack lol. this happens when you dont really keep track of distributions. panic first then check later tongue.gif
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post Sep 28 2016, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Sep 28 2016, 07:04 PM)
in Sept 2014 till May 2015...China funds made a GOOD uptrend before it corrected......
there are many reasons given for the correction during that time.

now ...some China funds NAV are higher than the May 2015 Navs.

...has the reasons changed from the last time before the collapsed  hmm.gif
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Nobody knows for sure...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...y-bumps-in-road

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...siness-optimism
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post Sep 29 2016, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 29 2016, 10:10 PM)
correction. maximizing potential of returns would be making sure most of the funds aren't correlated. why buy the same funds when you should be investing in other funds.
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also true for the opposite. need to be careful not to buy negatively correlated funds coz its gonna offset each other tongue.gif
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post Sep 29 2016, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ Sep 29 2016, 10:26 PM)
No, you aren't correcting anything when you don't even understand the point.

Aren't correlated means if one up, the other down, and vice versa.

Therefore, you are just averaging, not maximizing.
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actually, arent correlated means they dont affect/follow each other at all.. one up, the other could be up, down, or sideways...
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post Sep 29 2016, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 29 2016, 10:41 PM)
I agree with Howszat in principal.

to me that way is more for minimising the risk rather than for maximising returns.

buying only "uncorelated" UTs hoping to maximise return is like hoping something like the KLSE
of the 90s to come back again........any share and every share you buy also you will make money......
........... i wonder when is that going to happen again.

you must hope  every sector,every country all going up at the same time in tandem..

you cant have the cake and eat it too....
you cant have 1% risk wanting to gain 30% return, metaphorically speaking....
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while I agree with you that its more on minimising risk... its really something you should at least check once. read the market wizards book.. many legendary traders have expressed that they wish they had learnt how to manage risk.. while its true that trading and investing in UTs dont overlap much, its really to protect you from the downside you could have otherwise avoided. dont dismiss it altogether. i dont really bother myself too much with it though, just run a simple correlation then get done with it.
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post Oct 1 2016, 10:22 PM

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funny that I am studying for my CFA and this page came up...

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post Oct 1 2016, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 1 2016, 10:28 PM)
no need to sit course bro just read version 1 to 15 fundsupermart. a hahahahahahahaha
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hahahaha i would have done that too but our CIO is making me take CFA!

Jokes aside,, I think I would be rest assured too if my unit trust fund manager have at least CFA tongue.gif

If you cant control the returns, you can at least control the risk flex.gif

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post Oct 2 2016, 12:49 AM

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Just wanna put this question out here... What do you guys think of trailing stop loss? Anyone here using it?
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post Oct 3 2016, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 3 2016, 11:05 AM)
Friend Azam,

So you are taking CFA, the undisputed gold standard education for financial analysis. This program is only available as post-graduate and is akin to taking a Masters in Finance.

Do it well my friend, pay heed to your lecturer. Learn well, for in future who knows you might end up on the BUY side of things, as a Fund Manager.

Who knows, perhaps in future, I could be participating as unit holder in the fund that you manage or I would be telling my friends and relative to participate as a unit-holder in the fund you are managing.

Manage well the money that belongs to your client, you have a high responsibility to shoulder.

There will be unit-holders that will need the money to fund their kids' education, some will need the money to pay their medical bills, some to provide for during their retirement period, some need the money to go Little Saigon Jalan Alor to meet up with Viet-Mois friends.

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hey thanks! haha yeah things are crazy right now with CFA, and work back in the office. We're almost reaching year end, so everyone's scrambling around trying to meet their KPI and ROI targets. Wonder if boss will approve my study leave laugh.gif
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post Oct 3 2016, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(David3700 @ Oct 3 2016, 03:02 PM)
Hi, I just join fundsupermart doing DIY on UTs.
I have make a purchase and the system show transaction date is 29 Sep.
So, my purchase NAV is based on 29 Sep or T+1 (30 Sep) or ??

Can sifu advise ?
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Depends on what time you execute the transaction. If purchased on 29th before 3pm, the price is the closing price on 29th. If after 3pm, the price is the closing price on the next business day.
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post Oct 3 2016, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 3 2016, 07:52 PM)
Why ? A forum is the right place where people can discuss and argue. Why are we afraid of arguments and differences ? It's only bad if people don't argue and don't discuss but focussing only personal insults.
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I'm actually surprised some people don't consider what's happening around here as hostile in nature. Is it just me?
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post Oct 5 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(TaintedSoul @ Oct 5 2016, 10:22 PM)
Sifus..I bought my funds solely depends on the FSM recommended funds sheet.

Whichever funds have higher return, i buy. Is it weird?

trying to learn the trade from this forum..
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Not weird at all, thats what an inexperienced person would do. Selecting from recommended funds should be fine.. they're recommended for a reason. Although pls make sure that you're fine with the risk (volatility) you're taking. You don't wanna be in for a shocker when the market turns against you tongue.gif
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post Oct 10 2016, 09:50 PM

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Just wanna clarify something... when people say ROI here, do you guys mean the unrealised gain shown in the "Profit" column on your holdings page?

Kind confused coz in my circle, ROI means something else..

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