I sold off everything in relation to Europe until the immigrant crisis boils over. I may suggest looking into the US TA Global Tech and Titan tho don't dump the entire basket of eggs because of one rotten eggs.

plus you hurt xuxen feelings

This post has been edited by Avangelice: Sep 23 2016, 10:31 AM

My humble judgement based on this chart.



TA global is side by side.

May be you should look for longer term.




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1stly, charts like these mean nothing if not read in the context of economic conditions affecting the underlying markets.

2ndly, this is just a 1 year chart.

3rdly,
1 is a GEMs fund
1 is focused exclusively to tech stocks
1 is focused exclusively to Europe
1 is focused exclusively to US, Europe and Japan

This is like comparing apple from gerai Muthusamy, banana from gerai Usain Bolt, pineapple from gerai Ali and papaya from gerai Pamela. 4 different fruits, compare what?

Eat apple during apple season, sure sedap
Eat banana during broken banana season oops I mean when banana is over-ripe, sure taste like sh*t
Eat papaya when it's just nice, of course sedap
Eat pineapple when u have sore mouth ulcer, u mad?

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 23 2016, 10:43 AM

Based on this chart, on what basis did you come to the previous conclusion? I would like to listen to your argument(s) or thought process.

Xuzen

This post has been edited by xuzen: Sep 23 2016, 11:10 AM

urgh this makes me feel sad that I cannot put what I understand and learnt into words as eloquently like you do. I feel like a neanderthal sometimes when I help people here

To YKLooi,

Good man, creative accounting is just fantasy created by yourself to syiok sendiri. Why do I say this?

Since it is your own money, it is no others, no matter how creative you are, at the end of the day if your put RM 100K in, and you get RM 100K + (whatever gain or loss) in whatever period that you track, your should use that number. Be truthful to yourself and act accordingly.

If you engage creative accounting, there is a real danger that you can be deluded by the numbers. That is, if you perpetuate a lie to often your brain may have the danger to believe it to be true.... that is why I say delusion.

Creative accounting therefore is an exercise of much ado over nothing, it does not bring any value but have danger to cause delusion.

Xuzen

I like to present arguments using analogies, make complicated ideas easier to grasp.

Guys, I'd like to pull your attention to my earlier post this morning, post #501. It will put things into context.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 23 2016, 10:51 AM

yes...for shiok sendiri....in the end it is my total investment history of performance.....

but these words hold truth too....
from j.passing.by
If I were you (with inital bad purchases and dismay IRR), I would look more into the year-to-year growth. If the yearly growth for the past recent years are satisfactory, then be happy with it - as this shows that you are on the right track.

from Dasecret....
Anyway, I think pink boss does his 12 months rolling returns to consider current CAGR instead of keep going back to the dark times and not see any improvements in the IRR. Perhaps you can do that too

b'cos of past dismayed performance... no amount of good balanced portfolio can helps to alleviate the IRR.
which may lead to NOT focusing and rewarding the current performers...and taking non sensible risk....

if i don't monitor the "past" bad investment results, will looking at the Y-O-Y better?

ex...MAS has a history of under performances....should one take into the whole history from day 1 or should one judge the "new" current mgmt from inception?

The above are wise words. They are well articulated. Take heed and profit from them.

Xuzen

This post has been edited by xuzen: Sep 23 2016, 11:07 AM

To add to Crystal Ball™ player's words above...

My commencement to-date IRR is now at 6.7%
Sure, it's not amazing...only managed to beat EPF marginally...
But, I started my UT investments at the onset of 2008 financial crisis...
At one point my losses stand at about 25% of my cost...
And I also bailed out due to fear during the crash of 2010-11
Had I started AFTER the crisis of 2008 and NOT bailed out during 2010-11, my returns would be wayyyyyyyy better
Put all the above in context, I'm quite proud of my performance. Haters can hate, I don't care

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 23 2016, 11:20 AM

something like this?



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That guy from ASx FP threads will .... (i told you so)

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And I also bailed out due to fear during the crash of 2010-11
Had I started AFTER the crisis of 2008 and NOT bailed out during 2010-11, my returns would be wayyyyyyyy better

Sorry. East spring inv emerging market is a Gems fund ? I must have missed something big. I need to revise my investment.

Bro, it's understandable for most investors to not read the bulky prospectus from page 1 til the end (though it's not the right thing to do), but at the very least read the monthly fact sheets occasionally and briefly glance through the crucial parts of the prospectus prior to investing.

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 23 2016, 11:31 AM

with these and the revelation of pink.....

and this
the 5 kgs stone had been lifted from my chest.....
now i hope i can have the wisdom to see, plan, act and stay on a sensible diversified portfolio.

For newbies to investing, this is what happened from 2007 to 2011:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2011/a...isis-key-stages

Current markets rocky? Try go back to then. >20% losses is commonplace
In b4 AS_ FIXED PRICE yo, apa tahi berlaku pun takkan affect aku

This post has been edited by Pink Spider: Sep 23 2016, 11:39 AM

plan well and FAST....
the 0.57%SC ending soon..

No. I misunderstood. GEMs as in global emerging market as OK for me but not Gems as in gemstone etc.