I'm looking to move into a low density guarded/gate community that (i hope) have decent security...

This opens up the opportunity for me to not install jail like grills on my windows and glass panel doors.

Hence I'm looking into stainless steel security mesh that also acts as insect screen... so I can open my glass door and let the air in without worrying about mosquitoes and such....

I'm interested in this brand ( http://crimsafe.com.au/ ) anyone knows if they have a dealer/agent in Malaysia? Or can suggest some alternative products?

These stuff seems very popular in Australia but not so much in Malaysia..

Another brand http://www.invisi-gard.com.au/

The only Australian product available here that I know of is this http://www.pantherprotect.net.au
Local address- http://www.panther-asia.com/#!contact/c24vq


But imho it kalah to this - very well made
While I don't have the mesh door (mine is glass) the frame is the same.
http://arxtech.com.my/web/

Wow.. nice mate!

WHen u say it kalah to this u mean crimsafe or panther or arxtech better?

Arxtech has their own security mesh.. and 2.4mm thickness wow... overdoing it.. not sure if its going to be too dark/dense... cause most of the Australian product i see is using 0.8/0.9mm thick strand.

Also, your secure frame.. you coupling it with security glasses? Cause I plan to do that... for small panel/windows ok.. for big panel glass door cannot cause would be too heavy.. they are going like 50kg per sqm

i have only seen arxtech and panther
i mean arxtech is better than panther
not sure about the ones you wanted to know about

not sure if yours going to be sliding or swing/folding doors but the ones Ive seen are swing type and for the panther you can see the hinges on the outside (if your door swings out). the hinges on the arxtech are fully concealed, you cant see it from either sides.

Im also not impressed with panther's installation compare to arxtech. ive seen it.
the construction of the arxtech is far superior imho. go check both out and you will know what i mean.
usually during fair, you can check both companies out

one more thing, during fairs you can get 20% off but after fairs, you can also try nego for that 20% discount. if you need a contact, let me know

btw the last fair was at PWTC end of august, you just missed it

The house is gonna come with 2 sets of 3 panel sliding glass door. So this will be installed along side those doors cause otherwise its gonna be too expose/vulnerable...

The fully concealed hinges is a good catch... I have seen ppl install rear kitchen door that swings outwards with the hinges expose on the outside... 1 screw driver, pop the hinge pin and the entire door comes out..

This post has been edited by MeToo: Sep 2 2016, 11:05 AM

here are their contact person. i only know jerry chan though. you can ask him how it works for your case

https://www.facebook.com/176141982577994/ph...?type=3&theater



This post has been edited by idoblu: Oct 10 2019, 08:06 AM

Will check out the other upcoming home fairs.. there seems to be multiple of those every year...

Anyway do you have any idea what kinda price for a 3 panel door? A fren mentioned he say somethign liek this (not sure brand) quoting around 10k+

Following....

Lets go hunt together... groupbuy since we neighbours... ask for special discount

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...l=security+mesh

previous thread
there are other brands around....majestic, etc

Ah thanks! The guy who got quoted 50k was abit shocking ... cause I kinda have the same balcony hahaha

Please come back here and give us a review after you do yours, thanks

The OP already installed the mesh?
If yes, mind to share your review and price?
Thanks!

I came across this DZM Insect Screen which offers RM97 psf for security screen. Anyone used them before?

Fb page: https://www.facebook.com/dzmscreen/

First: of all your decision is right to choose stainless steel security mesh that also acts as insect screen.

2nd: when it comes to your house safety, you should be very careful about it. The brands you suggested may be good but we recommend that you should inspect the product quality of those brands first, then should go on to decide which brand to choose.

If you want to explore more about insect screen suppliers, just visit this link.

Thanks!

This post has been edited by heanjiametals: Mar 3 2018, 02:01 PM

hi, did you use them? if yes, how is the quality and service?
i got the quotation from them during the home expo fair, the cost looks reasonable.

yes i just installed the security door with stainless insect steel screen. Not bad and i like the design and lock. Given them the second job.

Anyone know where can I get this type of door? It is combination of mesh n aluminum door

this is the same as per mine. U may try DZM insect screen

https://www.panther-asia.com

You can also try this. Their Malaysia branch.

Hi ace77,

i am looking for security + insect door too...can u share the spec of the product? ie what is the spec/strength of the wire mesh? Are they using uPVC or aluminium, spec?

Hello ace77, how much did it cost you for a mesh door of this size?

'The size of 1670mm (W) x 2610mm (H) cost me about RM5.6k

Why didn't u went with Panther or Arxtech?

Wow it is not cheap. Never thought it was going to be that expensive . Thanks for sharing though.

Thats a 2 panel?

5600 is decent price for a 2 panel.

A 3 panel panther would set you back about ~10k

Anyone use E chan brand security mesh

E chan. i just met their sales people over the weekend. prices seems lower than elegant screen but saw some lousy reviews on their facebook page which got me worried. not about the product but the service. so now im not sure.


anyone tried foldable mosquito screens from elegant screen? can give some opinion and reviews on the product?

I'm still in the middle of the process dealing with E Chan. In term of their staffs, I think they are alright. However, they tend not to update me and would require me to follow up to get an answer/action.

oh that negative comment i was talking abt on their facebook page has been removed. now im suspicious. i guess i wont engage them then. they also attend alot of expo events which is not a good sign.

Panther and Optima window also attends alot of expo events, heck almost all of them...

I actualyl find Optima to be quite good, decent pricing, good lockset (using ISEO)...

What is the price for optima brand for sliding door?

Glass or mesh?

Mesh is around RM10k for a 3 panel sliding.

Ofcourse price would differ based on alot of variable factors

I got mine installed by E Chan couple years back. Took them because of reasonable price, but there were some problems (came in the wrong color) and they had to redo it.

Mine is the magnetic mesh type. Starter to notice some bulging gap where the magnet strips are and also certain area magnets have lost their strength for some reason (I do not frequently dismantle them).

Overall though, ok for the price. For several windows, they installed terbalik but still usable so I didn’t make a fuss about it.

YMMV

What do you mean installed terbalik?!

That doesnt seem like a "small matter" to me wor

Coz there’s like mini doors on the screen that u can open to access the window handles. The placement was correct, but the orientation is upside down so it opens different direction vs others. But Still can access the handle since the opening is big enough.

Wow.. that would be unacceptable to me.

I'm trying to bypass all these issues form various contractor by engaging 1 single ID... let him handle everything (I'll end up paying more for sure) but then he will ensure all is done right and I dont have to waste time and effort coordinating between 101 contractors...

Sidetrack from but I did the same with my renovation contractor, and ended up screwing everything. Because many contractors only specialize in 1 or 2 things, so end up they sub out to the cheapest subcons who will bring problems. Maybe for ID and cabinetry it will be ok though.

Well he's kinda a reputable ID, won a few (local) awards here and there.

They have their own carpentry yard. And yes i have went to a few of their current projects to see the finishing, not just look at photos.

The only gripe was he is very resistant to certian ideas form me which he feels will "spoil" his art piece hahaha... like how I insist on fans he keep trying to convince me no

no fan then use what? air con 24/7 ?

Whole house got aircon but you are right too much is not good. Too dry.

Hi,
I already have folding doors, can this mesh add on?

I was thinking how to cut this mesh thing and came up with an idea.
Put a thick sharp rail in the mesh to create bigger hold, then use pliers to start cutting. I wonder if the shops let me try my idea.

Surely this is possible.
But cutting this mesh is definitely slower than conventional metal grille.
Anyway, if you are aiming for high security, mesh is not the product.

I'm using Majestec for the whole home

Cost a bomb, but am happy I got it

sure why not? U can add sliding. folding, swing.. whatever you like...

Sure cost a bomb! My friend introduced me to Mesh Secure (Majestec I guess) and I called David... so I quickly did measurements of the windows I wanted to install and roughly calculation it is at least 25k to cover all openings but well not an official quote yet.Intermediate terrace house je, minimal windows versus semi-d or bungalows. He did recommend to install only on open and close windows while those fixed ones just go with secure tint instead... but looks a bit weird.



But on the side note, how's the quality so far? Build is good? I'm also looking for competitors to compare prices. My new home is a gated and guarded, will be fitted with alarm and CCTV so am thinking to grab these mesh instead of grill so it doesn't look like so "confined" with the metal bars.

These are the alternatives I googled in Malaysia...

https://optimawindow.com.my/arxtech/sliding...-security-mesh/

https://www.panther-asia.com/

I have surveyed most of it including those you listed, price range is more or less the same.

I live in a 3 level semi detached so it cost 3x that amount for your home. Installed >8 years ago, till now no problem. Covers all the windows and doors that can open, the fixed ones use security tint.

I see... so its a matter which has better quality then given similar pricing.

3 storey semi-d, that's a lot of windows... and 3x my pricing eh... 75k ugh... ok that's a lot.

I went for Optima/Arxtech combo...

Cause they have 2 in one solution, glass plus mesh with one single integrated frame, looks much neater...

Total damage nearly 65k,,,,

Glass plus mesh, meaning you changed the whole window? Instead of add on?

Hmm guess I will get all of them to quote me... and probably should wait for one of the fairs then see if any special deals.

This post has been edited by celciuz: Jan 8 2021, 09:36 PM

During the first MCO, I managed to secure a super deal for RM57 psqft from an unknown vendor.

Immediately ordered for my folding side and swing front doors, total 130sqft.

The outcome is definitely much better than those security mesh grille from mosquito net vendors. Visually, I don't see much difference comparing to panther protect product too. No idea with optima.

Anyway, the deal is over and price is back to about RM100 psqft. If you are looking for great deal, it may happen anytime during this pandemic.

Share some photos as well as the company name too? Thanks!

Please Google for LCL Aluminum.
They are from johor but serving Klang Valley customers too.
As I said, the super deal is no longer available.
The price is back to market rate..

This post has been edited by Snoy: Jan 9 2021, 10:05 PM

Hi, anyone use PCS work before for security mesh?

https://www.facebook.com/220856276002392/po...59456178809067/

Yes, changed the existing glass window as well. Got the laminated glass for my bedroom as it has very good sound insulation ...

For the glass + mesh combo, roughly how much per sqfeet?

combo or no combo same price no discount.

depends on its top hung or casement or sliding, or folding etc... it should be around $100~140 psft

Hmm do you know the thickness of the mesh based on the price you get?

Just ask them. :-)
Also, they provide sample to show.
Mine is 0.9mm SUS304.

I had similar mesh door in my previous house for many years, hence I roughly can know the difference.

I see..thanks.
Quite a good price with promo you got there, but if normal price is 100/sqft, definitely it's a bad deal since can get better quality products with that pricing.

0.9 is good.

I'm currently using 1.2mm feels too thick, visibility also affected...

Your 1.2mm mesh is Aluminium or Stainless Steel?

My previous mesh door had 1.2mm (or 1.3mm .. i forgot) but it is Aluminium.
The vendor said stainless steel has 0.9 or 1.0 mm only.
Anything thicker should be Aluminium and it will definitely make the room dimmer.

The vendor BS u.

" High Tensile Stainless Steel Wire Mesh .Industry-leading toughness and durability. Wire thickness of 2.4mm (1.2mm + 1.2mm) "

https://window-elements.com/premium-securit...w-manufacturer/

This post has been edited by MeToo: Mar 9 2021, 04:03 PM

Currently eyeing on panther, arxtech and renex, but since you mentioned arxtech has low visibility guess will remove it from my list

Mosquito netting have better visibility.....

Rather you should go view all and see.... check their hinge design (exposed or hidden), check their visibility vs security (you cant have both, need to find a balance), check their lockset (some using china/local locks while others using ISEO/ABUS), check their frame thickness (thicker i feel uglier), check their wheels/roller (heavy duty or run the mill)....

Yeah for sure will visit showroom to have further understanding about their products and compare between panther and the other one called renex.
So far I think 0.9-1.0mm mesh thickness is the best in order to maintain both security and visibility.

Thinking to do this for kitchen extension. Any comments?


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Why would you want to do this?

The cost for both mesh and ACP awning could be higher than normal tile roof and brick wall.
Privacy is a problem when you turn on the light at night.
Furthermore, no matter how good is the product, 24/7 exposure to sun and rain will cause the paint to fade off eventually.
The mesh is normally powder coated which is not friendly for normal painting.

The only benefit is the extension work with this is less messy than the wet work.

Thanks for the feedback. Was considering this because my house already has a wall of 6 feet. If extend with roof I was told I need to knock off the whole wall and rebuilt with pillar to support the roof.

Yes only if you want a concrete slab roof.
anyway, it’s out of topic in this thread.

FYI, mesh screen is not cheap.
The final cost may be same or even more than your wet work extension.

1 word : Ventilation.

I mesh my whole house, literally, every window/glass door etc.

Cause I like fresh air. Minus the dengue.

It wont reduce airflow? im gonna mesh my whole house too.. 1.0mm mesh for all the windows, 1.2mm mesh for sliding door and folding door. Hope i wont regret it...

compare to bare, the airflow sure will drop. no matter how little, u are still putting something in the way. jst manage your expectation

1.0 n 1.2mm..... panther protect?

WIll reduce but still better then nothing.

WIthout mesh the dengue is no joke....

I've gotten a very special price but its not panther.. once installed will share it here as i wanna make sure i recommend the right company.

have you installed yet? im also surveying for mesh

I recommend you visit their showroom first for those in your list before make any decisions.
Before this I have shortlisted to two companies and decided go with panther because the staff told me that the other company in my list is not even their competitor, plus their quality is guaranteed though pricey a bit.

Unfortunately Panther only covers KL & Selangor area and I am based in Johor. I did ask them if the would come down to Johor and they say yes with a min. spend of RM50k

50k would be around the price to cover an entire house, but still Better dont then, cause then the after sales service will be an issue if they dont cover that area.

I am looking to install a single swing door for kitchen that has both glass and security mesh. Anyone can recommend me which company that does this?

Optima does both glass and mesh in a single frame, thus neater. Do note they only do laminated glass

Panther doesnt do glass

Thanks for this info.
Btw, when you say in a single frame, does it mean the frame has 2 doors? one opening inside and one opening outside?

This post has been edited by nabilishes: Feb 16 2022, 01:44 PM

Yup! You're spot on!

Finally moved in to my new place recently.
TLDR : Would recommend Optima for mesh, sliding door, windows
solid product, long warranty, reliable sales person, google review pouring with +ve comments on their after sales serviced (I only recently moved in, fingers cross and hope not to need any major after sales service)

I engaged Optima, via Jerry Chan, for sliding door x3 + mesh (slidingx2, foldingx1) and all house windows (fixed, sliding and swing).
Would recommend Optima. Solid build and very impressed by the protection after they completed while my other reno work was still on going. The frames were taped up, the windows had a protective plastic sheet on it. Can embed alarms sensor in the frame as well (alarms from different vendor)
I didnt' get the double glazed windows due to budget bursting (for sound proofing), and yet excellent sound reduction/proofing.
Pricing wise competitive (not cheapest, not the most expensive either)
Jerry – responsive, attended to all my queries prompt (even after work hours), flexible and ok to arrange for 2 rounds of installation to time it with my alarms vendor’s installation
Once all dirty works completed, Optima’s team came to remove the tapes/sheets and did final touch up!
Just need to take note on:
1/ actual sliding door opening size – I did mesh and sliding door with 2 fix panel + 2 sliding open. Opening was slightly smaller than expected as the frame is really thick/wide and the sliding door handles eats up about 10cm on each side, thus reducing the mesh opening by 10cmx 2
2/ swing windows – hidden hinges (for security I guess), therefore can’t hold it in certain angle like conventional swing windows with “control bar”. With current strong winds/rainy season, the windows got blown by the wind and slammed against the frame a few times. Didn’t leave windows opened subsequently.
Would be great if optima had some kind of accessory to allow windows to open up to certain angles.

Cheers!



This post has been edited by vernee26: Oct 28 2022, 08:19 PM

How much total u spend on optima?

Yes, Optima pro is hidden hinges but their cons is ALSO hidden hinges making the frame very thick. This is one reason I didnt go with folding door, sliding still ok cause the frame will overlap. I also engaged their sister company Arxtech to mesh up my entire house, for both security and mosquito proofing.

Quality for Optima/Arxtech is ok, i would say overkill on their hinges, frames, mesh thickness, heavy duty roller etc... my house area doesnt need that kind of protection but I can see how more "high risk" location would appreciate it.

I would also recommend Optima / Arxtech, first saw thier product at the condo i bought.
Now in the process of installing for my home.







The main reason I went with them is for thier pricing and their after sales service.

After having the mesh grille till now, I would say the most obvious benefit is the unit barely got fly/mosquito compare to old unit. Even there's fly flew through when the door is open, you can see it's dead on floor somewhere the next day, might be overtired/starving cause keep flying and couldn't find an exit.

I based in PG. Anyone use the product from the vendor listed below?

1)G-Mesh Protect Screens Enterprise
2)Eco Security Mosquito Screen