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post Jan 26 2007, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(pacer @ Jan 26 2007, 12:01 PM)
haha, becoming politician...  brows.gif
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laugh.gif hahahah.....anyway,i dont mind driving a car with a Proton Emblem in front of my hood IF and ONLY IF they improve the built quality and at least give us sum better tect features( I believe they can and able to do so).....its such a sad case seeing a 20 year old car manufacturer with these kinds of results....lets just pray hard that sumone (VW or GM) will save them and also save us(consumer) from all the nitemares that we had for the past 20 years smile.gif
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 26 2007, 12:04 PM)
bashers contradict themselves

some wants them to produce the best car in term of performance, the other wants them to produce the car the people want ..this two will not mix well.. as I remember not long ago some bashers scolded Proton for placing importance on profits alone?

producing unimaginative models and wants profits only, I think this is what Jeremy clarkson had been against..at least they are not producing the cars to the whim of ignorant populace...they have created cars that are great to drive unlike any other local car manufacturers that only know how to create profits only...

Stupid thread like the TS himself...not that this is new.
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Huh? what are u talking? on crack? What you mean by the first paragraph? oxymoron?

And whats other local car are u talking bout? Perodua? Dude, you sound like you are working for Proton and the comments like that make you sound real pathetic.

Proton are making 'profit' no matter how many cars they gonna sell, coz end of the day, the 'rakyat' have to bail them out.
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post Jan 26 2007, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 26 2007, 11:58 AM)
hmm, this sentence a bit weird to me... rolleyes.gif
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it looks cheap coz they make other car too expensive doh.gif
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post Jan 26 2007, 12:50 PM

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this is what you get if your're not using chopsticks... LOL
Let the "National Treasure" die of natural causes lah... stuff like MAS and Proton are losing money because of incompetent management. The Gov pumping money in it will not produce any improvement because of the public's perception of the brand... sudah busuk kononnya.
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 26 2007, 12:04 PM)
bashers contradict themselves

some wants them to produce the best car in term of performance, the other wants them to produce the car the people want ..this two will not mix well.. as I remember not long ago some bashers scolded Proton for placing importance on profits alone?

producing unimaginative models and wants profits only, I think this is what Jeremy clarkson had been against..at least they are not producing the cars to the whim of ignorant populace...they have created cars that are great to drive unlike any other local car manufacturers that only know how to create profits only...

Stupid thread like the TS himself...not that this is new.
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Is any car out there that can satisfied all people? What kind of contradiction are you blithering about? I wanted a perfomance car and perhaps that would catch on. Proton started, and then Perodua taking over this everyday car business so that they can move one step further. If you want to bring Jezza in, he likes superminis. Particularly, the Yaris from Toyota which also owned Perodua but definately not your Savvy. You made it sounds like Proton is actually pleasing us by not making mass-produced cheap cars anymore and others still do. And Proton has actually given us something superior but we don't appreciate it. With Savvy? Give me a break. The fact is, Proton and Perodua are still selling those what you called ''unimaginative models''. Just that both sell craps but your Savvy is crappier than crap judging by the sales volume. If you try to be something bad and still failed, it can't be any worse than this.

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post Jan 26 2007, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Jan 26 2007, 12:52 PM)
Is any car out there that can satisfied all people? What kind of contradiction are you blithering about? I wanted a perfomance car and perhaps that would catch on. Proton started, and then Perodua taking over this everyday car business so that they can move one step further. If you want to bring Jezza in, he likes superminis. Particularly, the Yaris from Toyota which also owned Perodua but definately not your Savvy. You made it sounds like Proton is actually pleasing us by not making mass-produced cheap cars anymore and others still do. And Proton has actually given us something superior but we don't appreciate it. With Savvy? Give me a break. The fact is, Proton and Perodua are still selling those what you called ''unimaginative models''. Just that both sell craps but your Savvy is crappier than crap judging by the sales volume. If you try to be something bad and still failed, it can't be any worse than this.
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Well said, anw, let him alone lar. Cheers. smile.gif
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post Jan 26 2007, 01:32 PM

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PROTON sux... juz like streamyx...
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post Jan 26 2007, 01:54 PM

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Judging a car by its sales volume..I have nothing else to say...i guess we could bash P2 for not stop selling kelisa, kancil to make way for myvi which isn't supposed to directly compete with savvy.

I"m a Proton supporter..proud to have PROTON power sticker on my windscreen...proton tiger logo on my car body..does that mean I'm working for Proton..only stupid people only think that way.


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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 26 2007, 01:54 PM)
Judging a car by its sales volume..I have nothing else to say...i
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Other cars might be a different story, as far as Myvi and Savvy are concerned, they're targetting the same market, what tells the truth if it isn't sales volume? You're aiming to sell your product to the same group of people as your competitor and they have sold more, is there any word other than failed?
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QUOTE(jasonlim @ Jan 26 2007, 12:37 PM)
it looks cheap coz they make other car too expensive doh.gif
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Indeed this is so true.
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a new management team might help Proton...
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post Jan 26 2007, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 26 2007, 02:26 PM)
a new management team might help Proton...
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Yea, government should leav proton alone. Give them only support instead of managing them!!
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QUOTE(mars2005 @ Jan 26 2007, 02:43 PM)
Yea, government should leav proton alone. Give them only support instead of managing them!!
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only moral support though......i am against monetary support........because gov money come from where.....the rakyat lah......
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Nor Mohamed: National pride calls for Proton to have foreign partner
By Isabelle Francis
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Second Finance Minister Tan Sri Nor Mohamed Yakcop said it is in the national interest for Proton Holdings Bhd to forge a strategic alliance with a foreign partner.

"National pride is beyond Proton. National pride is an important factor in making sure Proton survives and prospers.

"It's important for the auto industry for Proton to do well. It is not a zero sum game; we are all in it together. It is prosper thy neighbour sort of policy.

"It may be useful to get the expertise (of foreign partner) that we need so that there can be a symbiotic relationship to move on to a better level given the changing international environment," he told reporters after launching UMW Holdings Bhd's GaleriKu in Shah Alam on Jan 25.

The RM1.5 million UMW GaleriKu is sited on a 4,521 sq ft area at the ground floor of UMW's corporate building and showcases UMW's corporate history since 1917.

The items displayed at the gallery include a Toyota Corrolla-KE10, the first Corolla series assembled in 1986 by Assembly Services Sdn Bhd, an oilrig scale model, and insights into car assembly and rig operations.

Nor Mohamed also expected the local automotive industry to perform better this year, particularly in the second half, due to better macroeconomic figures, consumer confidence, spillover effects from the stock market and inflow of foreign investments.

"We have also held a number of meetings with the banking sector to inform banks that the government is very keen to see the banking system play its part in ensuring there is adequate financing for car buyers.

"This confluence of factors would create prosperity and, among other things should lead to a bigger purchase of cars," he said, adding that the national automotive policy was not the factor (that) affected car sales last year.

According to Malaysian Automotive Association (MAA), car sales drop 11% last year to 490,768 units and this year, it expected car sales to increase by a marginal 1.9%.

Based on the same report, the MAA also said national carmaker Proton's number one spot was overtaken by Perusahaan Otomobil Kedua Sdn Bhd.

On a separate matter, UMW managing director Datuk Dr Abdul Halim Harun said the group expected earnings growth across all its core business namely automotive, heavy equipment and oil and gas in the current financial year ending Dec 31, 2007.

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QUOTE(Kampung2005 @ Jan 26 2007, 02:58 PM)
pride?????.....but I am not that proud of Proton...... rclxub.gif
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post Jan 26 2007, 03:27 PM

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yes, let us all use chopsticks, my god what a moron, want to be racist oso must be smart abit la, use chopsticks as an example, idiot.

i hate these racists, they dont use their brains. For once i'd agree with the dude who said "you tak suka, you keluar!".

oh BTW, good for potong, they suck, we need better cars for our money's worth.

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QUOTE(pacer @ Jan 26 2007, 11:48 AM)
dont lah rot in hell, at least they still provide the rakyat with the cheapest cars in their class.... so got a bit of credit la.

maybe as first cars ppl will still buy but for repeat customers will be a 50-50 issue...
maybe a slow agonizing death, unless vw or gm take over control... wait for the new ppl  rclxms.gif
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the gov makes them cheap by making others expensive

QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 26 2007, 12:04 PM)
bashers contradict themselves

some wants them to produce the best car in term of performance, the other wants them to produce the car the people want ..this two will not mix well.. as I remember not long ago some bashers scolded Proton for placing importance on profits alone?

producing unimaginative models and wants profits only, I think this is what Jeremy clarkson had been against..at least they are not producing the cars to the whim of ignorant populace...they have created cars that are great to drive unlike any other local car manufacturers that only know how to create profits only...

Stupid thread like the TS himself...not that this is new.
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ah, u r here finally. yes, nothing new, sh1t as b4. the pot calling the kettle's black

QUOTE(Ken @ Jan 26 2007, 12:08 PM)
i din say the best car that i mention is from proton, u assume only

proton never produce best car in the world my fren..read carefully
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i tink 1 day he will die in a proton

QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 26 2007, 01:54 PM)
Judging a car by its sales volume..I have nothing else to say...i guess we could bash P2 for not stop selling kelisa, kancil to make way for myvi which isn't supposed to directly compete with savvy.

I"m a Proton supporter..proud to have PROTON power sticker on my windscreen...proton tiger logo on my car body..does that mean I'm working for Proton..only stupid people only think that way.
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best seller normally is the cheapest not the best
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 26 2007, 01:54 PM)
Judging a car by its sales volume..I have nothing else to say...i guess we could bash P2 for not stop selling kelisa, kancil to make way for myvi which isn't supposed to directly compete with savvy.

I"m a Proton supporter..proud to have PROTON power sticker on my windscreen...proton tiger logo on my car body..does that mean I'm working for Proton..only stupid people only think that way.
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btw, have you tattoo the proton tiger logo to ur backside?
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QUOTE(hypermount @ Jan 26 2007, 01:54 PM)
I"m a Proton supporter..proud to have PROTON power sticker on my windscreen...proton tiger logo on my car body..does that mean I'm working for Proton..only stupid people only think that way.
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ahahah! talking about Proton logo..

That Proton logo is kopi & pasta from Thundercats series.

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Damn proud eh? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(nexona @ Jan 26 2007, 05:09 PM)
ahahah! talking about Proton logo..

That Proton logo is kopi & pasta from Thundercats series.

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Damn proud eh?  rolleyes.gif
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spot the difference, why proton din kena sue 1??

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