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post Sep 18 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(yvliew @ Sep 18 2016, 08:26 PM)
How's our captain doing?
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Rooney > KDB enough said....
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post Sep 19 2016, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 19 2016, 12:55 AM)
scouser? liverpool fan? what? am i born in liverpool? and afaik rooney supports everton

he played poor and everyone can see that, but u need to differentiate between me defending rooney and me taking a piss out of those who made him a scapegoat for everything, juz like that pic u posted lmao what a joke are u aware of that
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Rooney have been consistently poor in the past 2 seasons while still maintaining the status as starter player. Obviously, everybody have the right to piss off with rooney, especially when he have been disrupting the flow of attack in soo MANY occasions.....!!!

Yes, other players are to be blamed too, but why not we start wit rooney first. After all, he have been in decline, slow and old. He can play some important role but certainly not a starter anymore. We should build the team around somebody who could be the future of the club not the old horse that in decline. Even giggs is not an automatic starter towards end of his career.
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post Sep 19 2016, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 19 2016, 06:23 PM)
selective memory at it's finest...if anything rooney is famous of, it's his inconsistency to perform well, not consistency to perform poor...wanna made him scapegoat for every downfall juz go ahead, i can post watever i want too whistling.gif

but i do agree he needs to be benched, not just to be rested but benched due to recent poor performances
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the problem is in his glory day he were able to produce magic moment at at frequent interval. His speed or perhaps his position as a forward player mask all the weakness. but now, he make far more mistake. waiting for him to produce a brilliant moment is like waiting for liverpool to win any silverware.

Despite all these, Rooney is keeping his starting position in every single game and no manager is dare to criticize him. so there is no wonder why a lot of fan is so piss of with Rooney. what is less understandable, is your persistence to defend him despite you admitting his weakness.

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post Sep 20 2016, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 19 2016, 11:26 PM)
whats most understandable is blaming one player for every downfall

roo didnt play against feyenoord and the team still suck ass, get a grip
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there are many player changes in that games, so there might be other factors. Even then, it will take few games without rooney to show result as the strategy might need to be adjusted/changed.

other player make mistake and will be dropped the next game but not rooney, despite consistently poor performance, he will be guaranteed a starting place in the next games.

other players might be blamed for every downfall, but there is one player that is consistently poor in each of those downfalls even if he is not directly causing the loss... brows.gif

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post Sep 20 2016, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 20 2016, 12:09 AM)
that's scapegoating alright
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doesn't matter bcoz he probably deserve it, it's not like he is playing good or at least OK/average level on all those games. As a team captain who is earning extraordinary amount of money, this is not the level of playing expected of him.

The team might have tried with different sort of changes before, but there is one changes that have never been tried bcoz it seem no manager is dare to do it (or probably it's a delicate matter). Don't point me to that Feyernood games where there is so many changes in player.

Afterall, you are already admitting Rooney is in decline, so probably it is a time to start building the team around other player.

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post Sep 20 2016, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 20 2016, 12:29 AM)
ure actually trying to justify the act of scapegoating as being acceptable in a team game

ok lets juz agree to disagree

cant wait to see who's next after ddg/carrick/young/fellaini/rooney
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so consistently being poor is acceptable in the team that is aiming for excellency in sport.... then i rest my case....confused.gif

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post Sep 20 2016, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 20 2016, 12:35 AM)
it's not, especially for a club of our stature, but he's not the only one  wink.gif
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Yes he is not the only one, but why not start with him for this time, the team have make change with other player but not him. If thing doesn't not work out too after a while, then put him back and let him play until his death...
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post Sep 20 2016, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 20 2016, 12:45 AM)
why not start with him? i dont know, do u?

no1 does
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Which is why a lot of fans are pissed off with Rooney, bcoz nobody know why he cannot be benched despite succesion of poor performance. i truly appreciate Rooney contribution, but for once i would like to see the team being built not around him.



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post Sep 20 2016, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(nasrulafiq93 @ Sep 20 2016, 12:49 AM)

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too much junk food is not good for health.... laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Sep 20 2016, 12:52 AM)
a perfect example of barking up the wrong tree

ps : he doesnt pick the team to play
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who know.... Rooney might be the real manager lol...

it's not all about barking up the wrong tree....

It's about a fan venting his frustration... after all this is just a forum where the MU management doesn't give a damn at all.....

even you defending Rooney will have no effect on Rooney survival in the team. What you need to understand is that why certain fan will keep blaming rooney... afterall it is not like he is playing well to avoid any criticism....

Ok... this is my last argument... i'm calling a day.

p/s: i have a feeling that Rooney will score next game..... just like last season.... laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(damnself @ Sep 20 2016, 01:06 AM)
Pm rosak ke? 🤔
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gie tido la bang..... mana syok gaduh senyap2....
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(eddy_87 @ Sep 20 2016, 06:20 PM)
Rather than push all the blame on roon, i honestly think its jose's fault. Yes, roon has been bad but so do others. Yes, roon's post could be given to others that could've probably played better...but then again, its the manager's call to do it.

Yes, he has lost his touch because he've become an averagely poor player & its so damn obvious because he was once not an average player. But what about the other lads? Have they stepped up or just maintaining the form that they're, now with roon joining in into the gang?

How did the man that chooses the tactic & the players helps this team? Of course we can't expect to see players telling the manager that he's not gonna play due to his poor form, or ask the manager to subs him off during the game.

Nope, im not in that rooney appreciation club or whatever u guys call it, but to me its harsh to blame a single player while the whole team aint performing & the manager seems like he'd ran out of ideas.

#joseout? Nope, its way too early...lets see how long will he continue with this current tactic, if its aint getting any better till maybe after january, im afraid to admit perhaps we're becoming more & more closer to that team that live in their past glories.
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the point is other person including the manager have been changed in the past, just one person is a constant in the team and never been tried for a change... .... hmm.gif

or perhaps we need to clone rooney to fill up all position including the manager.... laugh.gif
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post Sep 24 2016, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ Sep 24 2016, 09:18 PM)
I'm all for Rooney getting into the match when we're leading comfortably
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That is how Rooney should be utilised while still respecting him. He is not an automatic starter anymore especially in main games.
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post Sep 27 2016, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Sep 27 2016, 03:03 PM)
dunno y drop luni can be such a big fuss.. old d then sit bench la haha..

never had problem when giggs scholes ferdinand gradually gone to bit part role.
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the problem is when LVG don't have the ball to drop Rooney and giving too much respect to Rooney. At the end Rooney ego grow bigger than club, and when Mourinho came, he had a delicate task to drastically drop Rooney.

ohh ya.. the blame is also on Moyes for giving that fat and long contract... ranting.gif
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post Sep 30 2016, 03:44 AM

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post Sep 30 2016, 04:31 AM

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rooney is lucky... terrible misshot becum assist
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post Oct 4 2016, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(Xtraloveable @ Oct 3 2016, 03:54 PM)
I think it's the defender who kicked the ball at the first place. But somehow must blame Rooney for not able to reach the ball first hahaha
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it was Rooney heavy first touch or miscontrol (just like he always do) that lead to the opponent able to nick the ball from him. Fortunately the ball fall back to Martial who then score the goal.

But i'm all in for rooney to come as supersub and confuse the opponent with miss-touch.... laugh.gif Just don't start him as he will disrupt the buildup of the teamplay.

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post Oct 4 2016, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(Lord_froz @ Oct 4 2016, 12:59 AM)
no. unfortunately it was from the opponent, he does not touch the ball... apparently yeah, rooney should be use as a supersub. i like mata-herrera-pogba trio a lot. it just so unfortunate that the finishing is not there (probably because the goal keeper in god mode).. thumbup.gif
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R u sure? I watch the replay several times. the ball was moving from martial > rooney > opponent > martial > goal.... so rooney do really have a part in that goal... or i'm watching diff replay... confused.gif
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post Oct 18 2016, 04:33 AM

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time for rooney to conjure his magic assist... brows.gif
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post Oct 23 2016, 11:30 PM

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mourinho totally get the team selection wrong today

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