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English Clubs Chelsea FC - The Shed V41, BPL - Man City 1 - 3 Chelsea

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post Sep 25 2016, 02:28 AM

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post Sep 25 2016, 02:29 AM

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horrible game.
Cahill cannot play a high line and hold on the ball. Ivanovic is too much of a liability.
Zouma badly needed, JT too. very lucky we panic buy Luiz.


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post Sep 25 2016, 02:32 AM

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Conte: Matic, why your performance during training and game so much different?
Matic: Because Cahill and Iva defend against me during training

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Sep 25 2016, 02:04 AM)
better play our youth players instead la.
Iva dont need renew contract, Cahill can sell, Courtois next next season can sell to RM, Oscar and Willian also can sell off

if wanna buy back someone again, hope we buy back Ramires laugh.gif
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Courtois...i rate him below cech...when cech still play really good why on earth curtois come and straight replace cech..that the start of downfall of chelsea..cech save many valuable point for arsenal since he move there.
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post Sep 25 2016, 09:26 AM

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haha, so fast sinking ship? when you have 11 vs 11 and you need someone to cover another player's inability, you will have only 9 vs 11.
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Watch game>1st goal from stupid mistake (same one) from cahill>asleep>woke up>open LiveScore >3-0>sleep back laugh.gif

Ok serious note, cahill wtf? Enough with iva and oscar problem. Why u have to add problem? Seriously, having luiz back is a great idea now. Thx to the last min buy and seriously we need major defence overhaul. It has been a problem last season and it is still our problem this season. Emenalo can shut his mouth and write a check for who ever conte want this coming jan transfer window. If not we gonna get rape.


QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Sep 25 2016, 08:13 AM)
Courtois...i rate him below cech...when cech still play really good why on earth curtois come and straight replace cech..that the start of downfall of chelsea..cech save many valuable point for arsenal since he move there.
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What to do when player>club. He threatens the management to leave the club and mou have bo choice. I dont really like him since he came on in the 1st day. Until now he keep on blaming others (eg gk coach) while when even everything go by his way, he still shitty. Blaming team mates and everyone else are so not pro. I dont see cech doing it.

We need JT! Iva even as a vice capt still can command the ship well. Very different from Lamps. I miss lampard. He gave big impact whenever he came in.

Anyway, i dont expect us to be big even if we still the big 4 (5,6 maybe now?). But i hope we can be better than last season.
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zouma please heal faster...
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post Sep 25 2016, 10:28 AM

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It seems epl team have no problem dismantling our zonal marking defensive formation time and time again 😅

Conte got rekt badly by liverpool and arsenal...
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Sep 25 2016, 08:13 AM)
Courtois...i rate him below cech...when cech still play really good why on earth curtois come and straight replace cech..that the start of downfall of chelsea..cech save many valuable point for arsenal since he move there.
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I believe Courtois purposely just play within the lvl only to reduce the selling fees, so that next season can move on. Really pek cek his performance not improving amd commanding the defence when JT not around and worst than cech lvl
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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Sep 25 2016, 10:23 AM)
zouma please heal faster...
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If this is as easy like game, i gonna buff zouma with everything i got laugh.gif.

Btw, i think our prob is not defence now. Seeing hazard keep been thightly control and costa isolated again makes me wonder what willian doing. We need to start giving the chance to those who are willing. Willian need to take a rest. Alonso need to dethrone iva. Zouma need to recover fast. Matic and kante need to be sort quickly. If still wana play both of them i suggest 4-1-4-1 or 4-3-3 but that just me
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Sep 25 2016, 10:33 AM)
If this is as easy like game, i gonna buff zouma with everything i got laugh.gif.

Btw, i think our prob is not defence now. Seeing hazard keep been thightly control and costa isolated again makes me wonder what willian doing. We need to start giving the chance to those who are willing. Willian need to take a rest. Alonso need to dethrone iva. Zouma need to recover fast. Matic and kante need to be sort quickly. If still wana play both of them i suggest 4-1-4-1 or 4-3-3 but that just me
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haha, too bad we don't have christensen or kalas as a backup, or even miazga atm. cahill went from bad to worst dy, I don't think he's gonna get better in the future. alonso slowly integrating into the team. I'm wondering what's wrong with azpi.. he's usually good.
matic as usual, can't be helped. kante i think just had a bad day at the office. he's gonna be back soon
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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Sep 25 2016, 11:38 AM)
haha, too bad we don't have christensen or kalas as a backup, or even miazga atm. cahill went from bad to worst dy, I don't think he's gonna get better in the future. alonso slowly integrating into the team. I'm wondering what's wrong with azpi.. he's usually good.
matic as usual, can't be helped. kante i think just had a bad day at the office. he's gonna be back soon
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Kante outclassed badly by ozil...

See the early built up of 2nd goal, ozil simply went pass him like he was nothing...
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Sep 25 2016, 08:13 AM)
Courtois...i rate him below cech...when cech still play really good why on earth curtois come and straight replace cech..that the start of downfall of chelsea..cech save many valuable point for arsenal since he move there.
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Cech is definitely the better keeper, more experienced and can organise the line.
Courtois wanted to leave and management wanted to keep him as a keeper for the next decade. Only reason courtois start because of his youth and size. Don't have the same mentality as the old guard.

Too bad Roman agreed to let him go to our rivals. Even JM didn't want Cech to leave, but he too good to be sitting on the bench. Once leave, defense become tauhu
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post Sep 25 2016, 12:37 PM

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Kesian Fab, played well vs Leicester City, got chance to start but play against ars and play as am...

Already proven Fab cannot play am, once he hold ball, couqulin will press him; he play better if far from opponent or opponent not high pressing type

So, I would say conte was wrong to start Fab vs ars, maybe Oscar is a better choice
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 25 2016, 12:37 PM)
Kesian Fab, played well vs Leicester City, got chance to start but play against ars and play as am...

Already proven Fab cannot play am, once he hold ball, couqulin will press him; he play better if far from opponent or opponent not high pressing type

So, I would say conte was wrong to start Fab vs ars, maybe Oscar is a better choice
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I think probably would have been the same. Too exposed at the back, outpaced as well. Even when we got the ball, the ball move too slow out of def to attack and Arsenal pressed us really hard. Even better choice maybe was Mikel lol
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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Sep 25 2016, 01:01 PM)
I think probably would have been the same. Too exposed at the back, outpaced as well. Even when we got the ball, the ball move too slow out of def to attack and Arsenal pressed us really hard. Even better choice maybe was Mikel lol
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That was pathetic...
Conte is right, we are strong on paper, not on pitch

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hope he threatens to kill some of the players more often bruce.gif
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Matic and kante too eager to involve in attack. Especially matic. Last night was bad performance overall. Arsenal past our defense for fun. Fab prove that he can't play as AM once again. He did better in a deeper role.

Can't really blame courtois on the goals IMO. First goal, 50-50. Second goal, no one near Walcott (no one near the crosser to begin with). Third goal, 2 defense going for the same guy and leave ozil unmark + bouncing ball always hard for keeper to save.

Hazard missing, willian got improvement from last game in term of work rate and urgency. Costa isolated ( love his work rate and eagerness). Luiz the only defense above average from last night game. The other 3 is rubbish.

As for the subs. Pedro always eager but always lacking something. Alonso expose at time but I like his nononsense approach. Batshuayi look good, should have score the one on one chance.
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Stupid performance shitty team

Cant believe i walk 5km just to watch this game in my hometown

Cahill been fucking shit for the last 3 games. How can you miscontrolled a simple pass for 3 consecutive games and still get to play first 11?

Iva also shit, clear ball low and never fail to meet arsenal player

Hazard cannot blame him he cannot do anything

Willian also noob

Fab also missing

U know everytime we got the ball to hazard, he cant dash in as there is nobody there to pass the ball. Everytime he got the ball, only costa is at the front line whom he can pass to. Fab drop down quite deep to get the ball to start the counter.

Costa need to play with through balls he cannot play with his back behind the goal. Nobody there to support him

And as always courtouishit is shit

Matic offer no value
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Sep 25 2016, 12:37 PM)
Kesian Fab, played well vs Leicester City, got chance to start but play against ars and play as am...

Already proven Fab cannot play am, once he hold ball, couqulin will press him; he play better if far from opponent or opponent not high pressing type

So, I would say conte was wrong to start Fab vs ars, maybe Oscar is a better choice
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Hindsight 20/20

If play Oscar and lose, fans outrage why no play Fab when team lacks creativity, why repeat same mistake as against Liverpool.

There is never a right answer when your players are shit. He is choosing between two shitty options.

Have a look at his Juventus midfield - Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Pirlo. Bar Pirlo because of his age, all others are well rounded midfielders who are creative, can run, attack and defend. Fabregas, Matic and Oscar are too one dimensional. You know what they can offer but that's all there is to them. Clearly not the best options in Conte's ideal setup.

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