sorry to hear about your issue.
i don't like to buy Lazada cause they i always give me a reliable impression.
But sometime their price and voucher really attract me

Reason I choose Fuji:
1) vintage look
2 )i love unpopular brand so not sony
3) Fuji color
4) Sony A7 series really ugly for me


This post has been edited by tcm7782: Sep 10 2016, 09:38 AM

Lazada is pretty reliable for me actually. To be fair la. All my purchases were satisfactory and some were far good. Made countless of orders through out the year and this time it's the worst.

I will agree on 1, 3 and probably 4.

So any XT2 user here already?

Sony?
Look so ugly... especially the top key XD

But this why I choose Fuji:
1. Outook
2. Color tune
3. Weight, even the lens
4. Lens quality

Here many..

Is it? Who?

2 friends of mine are using XT2 already.

Uh.. Wait for them to show themselves better..

Who who

different people have different liking of camera..is what you look for in a camera....

for me:
1. color - more vibrance, I was attracted by Fuji color
1. learning curve - if u from film , camera like XT1 handling is very easy...with the manual control and aperture ring, is easier to adopt and learn
2. easy - menu not as complex as menu in Sony
3. apsc vs ff - negligible ..quote from zack arias
4. lens quality - good lens,sharp till ur eye "bleed" ,cheaper and smaller
5. Sony camera price drop too fast, no value
6. customer service is good....but speed a bit slow

i feel using fuji more fun to use and the camera looks more classic...
Sony throw too many high tech stuff there ...it makes shooting too simple which i feel the learning curve is not there.....
Fuji maybe slow in AF but sometimes slow, makes you see the framing and picture more clear, better composition
lose in DOF is ok as long the camera overall lighter smaller....
we all mostly post up Facebook which the picture already compressed so FF or big mega pixel doesn't work
compare sony G Master lens and Fuji equivalent lens ...so big and it make the camera and lens imbalance

sorry a bit long here...this is all in my opinion and my point of view..is no offence to Sony user and other brands

This post has been edited by jeffreyp: Sep 10 2016, 10:57 PM

Fuji lens is good.....but I won't call it cheap per se. Equivalent lens, I tend to find Fuji like RM200+ more. Correct me if I'm wrong of course.

Slow AF makes better framing? Lol. No offense, but I heard that excuse way too many times whenever someone compare their slow af camera with faster ones.

APSC vs FF, I won't call it negligible. There is a difference when comparing low light shots between apsc and FF. Zack arias merely said the ones behind the camera determine the quality of photos. However, good for Fuji for sticking to one sensor size.....oh wait, they are revealing 50Mps, medium format this month, crap.

Really, you bought Fuji for Facebook only?

Of course there will be a difference in lens size cause G master is made for FF. It's the same for any FF lenses. If you look at sony's apsc lens lineup, they are more or less the same size as Fuji's lenses.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Sep 11 2016, 12:18 AM

I think ppl like Fuji will like Fuji, just like you who like Sony will think Sony is better.
DOF shallow doesn't mean it is good, low light performance not really that notifiable unless you are those that shoot everything at iso 12800 and above.
One thing Sony is not really performing good enough compare to all the other brands in the market is their manual just way too complicated, and the white balance and color not accurate making their JPEG not that nice and require you to shoot in RAW, whereas brands like Fuji out of CA!era JPEG are so nice that you can shoot JPEG and not waste time o edit it in light room.
No camera is better than the other but the camera man is the person that can deliver wonders, crappy hand phone shots can sometimes deliver wow picture that some can't even achieve with a MF or FF camera.

few reasons why i like Fujifilm is because of the after sales support. They continuously update the firmware for older models to have better feature and auto-focus. While competitors just release new model, completely ignoring the older models.

another reason is their solid JPEG picture colours and quality. Not many brands can render that quality of JPEG.

Then it would be their buttons and dials, gives full manual control for the higher end models and feels in grip for my hand.

and another would the their lenses. It's expensive, but it's solid and can last many years (I am using prime lenses, btw).

Cheers

This post has been edited by xCM: Sep 11 2016, 02:01 AM

i agree not every lens is cheap ...cant per say compare apple to apple on pricing but for example 70-200 across all camera own brand(non 3rd party), you can understand what i meant...fuji slightly cheaper.... but yes some other lens more expensive...

haha, yah, AF thing is very subjective....no offences ...is depend on individual... for me, taking things slow is better than fast..i am still learning and if too fast, i feel i using phone take(my personal feeling)

medium format is totally a different area bro....if seriously wan to go into size category, there are more option to go into...
apsc and ff difference have been debated over and over again....the lowlight and the dof so no need to have the mention here..just go to any photography forum or any blog..u can see tons and tons of this debate..i just quote from Zack Arias only

I am not a professional photographer, just someone like to shoot nice pics which define my idea/point of view and share, handphone can do the same(yes i know but I have my own preferences)
Facebook have been my main media platform....90% pics are uploaded on Facebook....so is there any issue using Facebook as a platform to share pics? is depend on individual preferences..there are a lot of social media platform or maybe u have a website of ur own...all depend on the choices that we want to do...

all camera have pro and cons....
i just mention my opinion and my preferences..i not bashing Sony or any Brand....i even recommended my friends use Sony apsc and FF, or Nikon FF and skip Fuji.... depending on individual preferences,requirement and handling.....
Fuji have a lot of Cons....i can give u a list if u wan....

someone just ask why not Sony FF in this Fuji thread ..so I just mention my opinion and I also quote that is my opinion and no offences to Sony users or other brands
i didn't know it will offence you bro.....If you feel offended, I am sorry.....i didnt know that i can't write my opinion in here...

This post has been edited by jeffreyp: Sep 11 2016, 03:39 AM

I knew someone will misunderstand my statement. Im not saying Fuji is bad in anyway and im not sony fanboy. Just correcting some misconception. Read again carefully.

Btw Fuji color is nice no argument. But not to say it is accurate. The jpeg purposefully tweaked to add slight pink to skin tone thats why it looks nicer than other camera. Canon for example always add slight warmth.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Sep 11 2016, 07:15 AM

Read again and for last time im no sony fan. I dont even want sony to go FF route. Fuji is beautiful and i applaud their decision to stick with apsc. Just that when you make sensor size comparison, dont say its the same lah.

For this, I agreed with DaddyO, as regards the sensor size, quick and simple, they are not the same, though in some area the difference are negligible.. I've seen the Zack Arias video on youtube which he talked about sensor as well. I think the area where FF vs apsc is neglegible is term of sharpness. I've done a simple test myself, comparing my 24mp apsc(sony a6000) shot against my friend's FF 24mp(Sony A7) shot of the exact same scene with the same settings. The sharpness different can only be seen after I enlarged both photos to 100% on capture one express. As regards low light performance, it can be quite significant. I remember watching a video on youtube comparing Sony a6000 vs Canon 5d mark III video performance with different iso settings. While I love my sony a6000, I have to admit that the noise level is atleast 1 to 2 stop better on canon 5d mark iii,( a 2 years older tech camera compared to my 6K).

Just like many of you here, I like the vintage look of fujis, absolutely love the manual dial and the best kit lens 18-55 f2.8-4 any company has to offer. And the fantastic OOC jpeg quality.

This post has been edited by Loseeker: Sep 11 2016, 03:16 PM

Fruitie, I also feel sorry for you. I for one, also waiting for you to receive your 12mm so u can do a unboxing video of it.....are you still in pursue of it, or you've given up?

Didn't give up at all.
Dropped them another email this morning because I didn't receive any feedback yesterday.
Their manager just called me and will give me a replacement instead of refund.

Not sure what Zack means by "negligible" but I have a feeling he is talking about something else like people determine photo quality, not camera (though that, IMO, is only partially true). Paired it with good lens, of course most people can't tell the difference between m43, apsc or FF. But paired it with "same" lens, you can tell which sensor is which. In this case, Fuji and m43 have a lot of good apsc and m43 lens cause they can focus on one sensors vs Nikon, Canon and Sony which have identity crisis of just primarily focusing on FF lenses and neglecting APSC segment.

And no, there's really no point comparing sharpness between two different sensor size. I can even say Nokia Lumia 1020 with 41-megapixel can outperform sony's 24mps in terms of detail in good light. Megapixel is simply just that. Higher MPS simply means higher detail but you also have to take account of MPS/sensor area.

However each sensor size plays to its own benefit. APSC with it's narrower view can get you that ever so sharper close-up shot of wildlife than FF at the same distance using same lens. FF can give you wider shot, narrower dof and better low light. m43 even down to smartphone sensor size allow very wide dof, making everything in focus while maintaining smaller f-stops. Try doing that with FF is really hard unless you use tripod and take static shots. Of course. all that can change when paired up with different lenses. M43 for example can go FF with speedbooster, but downside is you lose the autofocus reliability and extra glass can degrade the img a little.

This post has been edited by DaddyO: Sep 11 2016, 04:13 PM