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post Aug 14 2016, 02:36 PM

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Sudahlah sudahlah don gadoh buleh?

In the end Potong car still lose. Potong car is for poorfag who have never successful in their life, and also BN macai only drive Poton

Owai.

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post Aug 14 2016, 08:16 PM

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This p2 vs all started to get ugly when someone looking down on someone salary
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post Aug 14 2016, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Aug 14 2016, 07:30 PM)
what has race got to do with selecting cars between P1 and P2 lol.  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

it's not like P2 is owned by chinese people also..
I'm chinese, and when buying my own car with budget of 40k, i only have two options really. An Iriz or an Axia/Myvi. and the answer is easy, Iriz by miles was my choice..

Not to mention I got super massive discounts too.
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How bout 56k for a new Preve?

I got mine that price. Deswai i say for A segment, Bezza is overpriced. 51k for Premium.

Seriously i wud rate Bezza higher if price is cheaper.

I have no prob with Axia price. 4stars NCAP jimat minyak car for that lrice i think is worth it.

But Bezza really unacceptable lah. Sudahlah with the 1l engine doh.gif

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post Aug 15 2016, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(tokdukun @ Aug 15 2016, 11:47 AM)
RM56k Preve is the manual one? That won't be popular, though for those who can, I can agree it's good value for money. As long as can tolerate niggling initial QC issues, and so-so SC experience, it's decent.

If auto IAFM, it can feel quite underpowered and fc can be quite high.
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It's 56k after discount for Auto CVT, IAFM Engine yes.

abit underpowered i'd say but power delivery and FC much much better after 30k mileage.

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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Aug 15 2016, 02:01 PM)
I read some news once new persona launch non-turbo preve will be discontinued.
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Good strategy. A 60k Preve will hurt new PErsona sales.

What say you Toyoi hmm.gif
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post Aug 17 2016, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Aug 17 2016, 10:27 AM)
will never buy proton again

if buy new car i also will die die buy honda toyota

janji not proton
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Good step for improving your life.

Buying a Proton will make your family disown you, pets leave u, gf/wife will leave u too. friends also will unfriend u
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post Aug 17 2016, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 17 2016, 10:33 AM)
sorry nope.

base new civic is sold internationally at rm62k. for proton to sell it manual preve at 56k. I say it's too horrible with a fat profit margins that only make sense in overpriced protex ASEAN.

the bezza at 50k are ok, internationally top of the line A segments car with all it bell and whistles  do goes for around that. 

why would anyone who's interested in bezza wanna preve. the fact they look for a small car mean they either poorfag or it's a 2/3rd car. fuel & maintaince also is dirt cheap in preve standards and you'll get every toys imaginable available unlike the preve

it's cool to compare top of the line on 1 segment against the cheapest variations of another to strengthen your point but the reality isn't as rossy as it sounds . the preve is not all better, you pretty much traded creature comfort, high tech toys, attention to detail,  FC and accelerations for space and lots more besi. 

also why it's ok for axia to have 1L engine but not bezza? both are essentially the same car like suprimak and preve. it's like saying aparah proton go put basic 1.6l engine in a C segment car. not to mention you can get a 4 star bezza for 2-4K more than an equivalent 4 star jimat minyak axia.
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so tell me if poorfag or it's for a 2/3rd car, why wud u buy a 51k car? Just for the toys ka. kek

56k is auto baidewei.

and please enlighten what is this "hi tech toys" that ure tokin about man


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QUOTE(Darkripper @ Aug 17 2016, 10:51 AM)
have a preve at home, the car is like too heavy man, and makan fuel like water.
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yeah it's quite heavy due to the weight power ratio.

But since i drive on highway most of the time, should not be an issue to me.


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post Aug 17 2016, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(jusTinMM @ Aug 17 2016, 11:01 AM)
i jumpa preve tabuli naik bukit kat cameron pigi mossy forest. biler wa sampai atas, nampak kancil pun buli naik atas sana...
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Must be due to the CVT. Owner maybe haven;t used to it. Once u stop in 35 degree slope, if no skills really painful to move up one.

But everyweek i parked ground level Intermark there, the "checkout" machines located at 35 degree slope (i think almost 40 degree). no issue for me

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QUOTE(Volfeed @ Aug 17 2016, 11:09 AM)
I have driven the IAFM Preve from KL - Kota Bharu with RM50 refuel @ Gombak.  Quite jimat but pickup lembab because the car is heavy.

If CFE version maybe need to refuel again somewhere in Kuala Krai  laugh.gif
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This i agree lol.

I never driven CFE PReve

But the IAFM CVT Preve is quite jimat minyak.

So what's stated in Proton website is true.

5.8l for IAFM

6.6l for CFE

all tested @90kmph

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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Aug 17 2016, 11:13 AM)
yrs is iafm or cfe preve
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IAFM. 56k wehere got CFE.

Full tank 500km guaranteed.

BTW CFE punya torque i manyak jeles la baidewei. Very huge diff

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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Aug 17 2016, 11:18 AM)
full tank 500km guaranteed save fuel mah
my axia full tank guaranteed 320-350km only but RM43 lah hehe
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Axia of course lagi jimat mah.

Axia i have no isue with the price and performance. The price is really spot on for an EEV
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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Aug 17 2016, 11:29 AM)
but axia aircond not cool like proton cars sad.gif .Many complain aircond compressor KO within 2 years some report car jerk n much more .NOt sure about bezza . From my own experience old car that have two big fans that cool down the radiator aircond compressor but nowadays most car got only 1 fan only those D segment car got 2 fans .
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As long as gearbox not noisy like Preve at below 40kmph biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sgshuhu @ Aug 17 2016, 01:15 PM)
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Suprima s turbo
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Front 215/45/R17 Ultra max performance tyre
Back 215/50/R17 Touring tyre
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Yu banggala??

Mine

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Stock tyres everything oso stock.

Didnt reset the average meters for almost 8 months i think

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 17 2016, 08:48 PM)
"real keyless entry" not fake one like ......
"real start button" not ...... whistling.gif
DVVTi not iafm
Aisin Seiki of Japan not punch of China
definitely not bulb tail lights
EPS not dinasour hydrolic
start stop vs cannot start
cheap maintaince vs fuyoo
definitely not too fat for the engine to run
does not drink fuel like water
do not do krek krek,Ngek Ngek, thump thump
not seat berbulu problem
no senget glovebox
power windows that works

so in what sense that preve is a better car? it's just a bigger car and definitely not better. next you probably gonna complain persona and iriz are overpriced as your bigger preve is cheaper laugh.gif

if the new civic is sold at it original price will you still buy the preve at 6k less? at least bezza is sold at the same price its original car the Mira Es is sold at.
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dayum. If that is ur definition of "high tech toys". I think u win liao lor. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(bigwolf @ Aug 17 2016, 09:48 PM)
So you consider them as low tech stuff?
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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 17 2016, 10:23 PM)
if those are low tech what is iafm and punch? whistling.gif
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Yesterday, i lazy reply. Ok now.

I asked you what is the so-called high tech toys in Beza 51k and suddenly you compare here and there with Preve. Seriously i laugh.

Im not the one who compare here and there but becoz you started first and you have defined high tech toys so well, here are the Preve "high tech toy"

Im not saying Preve is the mightiest, best-est car im just saying for the price, these are the "toy"

"real keyless entry" not fake one like: "real start button" not ...... whistling.gifAgree on this, but wait how much u gonna paywhen you lost your key or rosak the key after warranty expired rclxms.gif

DVVTi not iafm. Ok IAFM Campro is still young i admit, but at least never break down in 7 years of ownership for my Saga BLM (150k km mileage). Never buat hal rclxms.gif
Aisin Seiki of Japan not punch of China. This one i admit Punch CVT is the weakest point of a Preve
definitely not bulb tail lights: Seriously? I dont care bout the bulb light but coz u mention lights, my quest is why P2 never resolved 3rd rake lamp, same sampah terbakar for myvi, alza, axia, kek rclxms.gif
EPS not dinasour hydrolic: This dinosaur hydraulic gives me confidence when cornering and high speed cruising whistling.gif
start stop vs cannot start. What cannot stop? And this start stop i think one of the main reason why this Bezza is overpriced though.
cheap maintaince vs fuyoo. Fuyoo as in? P1 maintenance always cheapest and parts easy to find.
definitely not too fat for the engine to run. This fat car saves many lives before (for the previous batch non ESC Preve especially) The thick pillar and HPF. rclxms.gif
does not drink fuel like water. Refer my previous posts.
do not do krek krek,Ngek Ngek, thump thump. Kahkah, See Bezza thread, already got people complain on noise here and there
not seat berbulu problem. Funny u mentioned this, my seat berbulu2 before, but after using lean roller one time, the seat never berbulu again until now.
no senget glove box. U seriously affected by this?
power windows that works. Come on man, it's already 2016 u still talking bout power windows issue. Even my Previous BLM never had issue.

Owh other than that the other "toys" (in the "useless big fat cheap inferior Preve") that i have to mention:

- R&H gives me the confidence when cornering. Come join me i can give u chance to drive to Cameron using Tapah road
- So much fun for such cheap car. Come join me i can give u chance to drive old road Gombak Bentong
- Satisfaction when driving (Coz of the so called dinosaur hydraulic steering and stock stabilizer bar for more assist)
- ESC, EBD, ABS, BA, TC, 6 air bags (including side and curtain), 4 disc brake, multi-link suspension, HPF body for the safety and confidence on the road
- Home light which i always use when i reach home at night.
- No sakit leher sakit belakang rear seat for my passengers. my passengers are comfortable, my luggage also comfortable.
- Big boot space (yalah this one P1 tiru Bezza kek) that the unker The Star paper can go enter and review keke
- No video game console like handling, no sampan handling when 160kmph and when cornering. I remain calm driving 160kmph when i rushing home coz tak buleh tahan mau vera and kincin
- Steering rack that can be adjusted
- no "upskirt sexy nampak panty" rear
- no tall and narrow body like kena tiup angin mau tumbang.
- Aircond so cold when panas terik afternoon
- 50 liter fuel tank, i dont have to find petrol station after just 350km journey
- Projector headlamp with LED
- DOnt have to fork out 5k gearupcar to make the exterior look better (better as in to wear longer skirt without able to see the panty kekeke)
- 5 stars Australian NCAP not chapalang Asean NCAP without the side impact test
- An always working stop lamp (but will remind me when if it's not which is rare)
- Stock handrest center compartment
- Steering button to make last dialed call and also to accept cal without the need to even touch ur phone while driving and do not have to release my hands from steering.
- Door lock can be customized to unlock/lock driver door only on one press on the remote.
- 56k all in one


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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Aug 18 2016, 09:11 AM)
car seat berbulu.... LOL... standard feature kah? real fur seat is expensive yo... maybe 5k-10k price... topkek bulu-bulu::::

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Nice. Looks comfy and can warm me from the cold aircond rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Aug 18 2016, 09:21 AM)
ur car fur seat is oredi built-in standard feature, means u save money 5-10k from install it

lol!!
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tak cukup tebal bro laugh.gif

And one time use lean roller already gone. I wish the bulus can come back sad.gif
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darth5zaft

Haih very tired lah bro. I want to reply u,so many things to argue, so many thing to object, but so tired lah

Coz now i think1 u and me are like little kids,

"my basikal is good it has this it has this"

"my basikal is better, it can do this it can do this"

You can continue with yours, im give up coz penat.

Anyways peace.

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