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post Aug 14 2016, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Aug 14 2016, 10:02 AM)
people buy perodua for the "brand"
so they can convert it to JDM
but since axia/bezza are not "rebadge" from JDM car
I bet less pipul will buy this model

and just wait for bezza to be "rebadge" like axia
by indonesia daihatsu and toyota company
and then we can have IDM (indonesia) new sub culture in car modification thumbup.gif

p/s
you can see with kancil/viva and old myvi
most of the owner are trying so "hard" to turn their car to JDM
and even when searching for parts replacement
they wouldn't mind to pay more for used parts from "chop shop" than brand new parts
as long it's JDM biggrin.gif
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Tak tahu axia exist in Japan

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post Aug 14 2016, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(THE CLASS OF 13 @ Aug 14 2016, 11:49 AM)
mira es from daihatsu ayla /ayga iinm lah.

this car made in indon one but daihatsu export back to japan.
it will be the same for bezza. daihatsu will rebadge and export bezza back to other country .
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got timelines all wrong

Ayla are launch in Indon back in 2013
Mira es launch in nippornjin land in 2011
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post Aug 14 2016, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(jimmybcmy @ Aug 14 2016, 11:55 AM)
Bezza look like toy car, when accident  sure kemak, wonder how can it be ancap 5 star?
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changed the logo
it would totally look like a million dollah

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post Aug 14 2016, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(yattnana @ Aug 14 2016, 12:13 PM)
Corolla Axio is a proper C segment car.....totally different class from Bezza
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don't think it's a C segment though
with only 7cm wider than bezza
it's probably more of a B segment like vios

but then again, a mini Corolla axio is still high keras than vios ever be laugh.gif

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post Aug 14 2016, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(budakdegilz @ Aug 14 2016, 12:33 PM)
ohhh sh*t !!
didn't know that tongue.gif
asal boleh convert ke JDM
pipul will still buy perodua

it's not about quality of driving
it's all about a look
can't afford to buy japanese brand ??
perodua pon jadilah...as long as it can convert to JDM
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but but protun try to do the same also pipu no buy

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post Aug 14 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(testkindtest @ Aug 14 2016, 12:52 PM)
lol u sure ka no pipul buy? most people who buy inspira change logo to mitsu lol, that's why u rarely see inspira  rolleyes.gif
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I thought they got plenty of unsold year old or 2-3 years old insapla that couldn't be sold
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post Aug 14 2016, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(ayygringo95 @ Aug 14 2016, 01:00 PM)
did you owned axia,
-pull out from a junction is a nightmare
- never achieve more than 18KM/L
- my 1 year old axia serpentine belt already making noise
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should have waited a year

the axia cuming out of new factory is quite gooding
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post Aug 14 2016, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(testkindtest @ Aug 14 2016, 12:58 PM)
not sure bout that, but when inspira first released last time, even my own cousin buy and change the logo to mitsubishi lol
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janji JDM smile.gif

the inside is so small
a whole lot easier to get in/out of iriz
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post Aug 14 2016, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(jimmybcmy @ Aug 14 2016, 01:10 PM)
Bodoh, you think myvi drivers are stupid... u judge people intelligence level based on the car they are driving. Then, u are stupid too.
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why not
stupid pipu make stupid decisions and buying myvi is a stupid decision which then show their level of stupidity by the way they drive.

insapla - smarts guys get it
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post Aug 14 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(dadurtyz @ Aug 14 2016, 01:13 PM)
Maybe their home road are smooth like butter.
Axia ratling issue is because their suspension are failed absorbs small bumping and drive on rough tarmac a whole cabin vibrate like wanna runtuh already even pass through zebra line,

I only like alza suspension, it absorb all
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last time make it soft pipu say like sampan
now make it hard like P1 pipu say wanna rontoh

apa lagi marehsian mahu?
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post Aug 14 2016, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 14 2016, 01:29 PM)
P2 suspension tuning is the best. Sampan AND bumpy at the same time.

Of all P1 and P2 cars I've drive....The old Persona is the bestestest in terms of comfort and handling. Independent rear suspension FTW.
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really
I thought preve was the bestest for P1

also axia kinda the bestest from P2, all other are quite sampah IMO
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post Aug 14 2016, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(testkindtest @ Aug 14 2016, 01:38 PM)
preve indeed the best proton car i own before this,the only letdown was the fuel drink like crazy... but after i own iriz, i can feel that it's better than preve in term of handling and comfort...too bad iriz doesnt have turbo engine like preve, if not fuhhh rclxm9.gif
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am waiting for the warrant to end
so can put a supercharger in it
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post Aug 15 2016, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 14 2016, 10:40 PM)
Lol YOLO right?

We only live once, let's spend half of our monthly salary on a Japanese econobox  biggrin.gif
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actually only quarter on the econobox
the other quarter is donasi to DRB and MO1
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post Aug 17 2016, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Aug 14 2016, 08:42 PM)
How bout 56k for a new Preve?

I got mine that price. Deswai i say for A segment, Bezza is overpriced. 51k for Premium.

Seriously i wud rate Bezza higher if price is cheaper.

I have no prob with Axia price. 4stars NCAP jimat minyak car for that lrice i think is worth it.

But Bezza really unacceptable lah. Sudahlah with the 1l engine doh.gif
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sorry nope.

base new civic is sold internationally at rm62k. for proton to sell it manual preve at 56k. I say it's too horrible with a fat profit margins that only make sense in overpriced protex ASEAN.

the bezza at 50k are ok, internationally top of the line A segments car with all it bell and whistles do goes for around that.

why would anyone who's interested in bezza wanna preve. the fact they look for a small car mean they either poorfag or it's a 2/3rd car. fuel & maintaince also is dirt cheap in preve standards and you'll get every toys imaginable available unlike the preve

it's cool to compare top of the line on 1 segment against the cheapest variations of another to strengthen your point but the reality isn't as rossy as it sounds . the preve is not all better, you pretty much traded creature comfort, high tech toys, attention to detail, FC and accelerations for space and lots more besi.

also why it's ok for axia to have 1L engine but not bezza? both are essentially the same car like suprimak and preve. it's like saying aparah proton go put basic 1.6l engine in a C segment car. not to mention you can get a 4 star bezza for 2-4K more than an equivalent 4 star jimat minyak axia.
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post Aug 17 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Yamma @ Aug 17 2016, 10:48 AM)
preve 56k overprice
bezza 50k is ok.

tokkek apekah ini. level dewa tokkek
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like I said
preve is not competitively price internationally
cheap as jaguh kampung
but at only 6k cheaper than new civic
it's obvious that proton eat huge profits margin

at least the bezza is price very equivalents to its Japanese base the Mira es.
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post Aug 17 2016, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(Volfeed @ Aug 17 2016, 10:51 AM)
Civic @ 62k? Price in US started at $18k (Rm72k) exclude tax.

Anyway, if the guy has no eye for Proton, he will buy Perodua or even Chinese cars lah even Proton is better. No need excuse here and there lah laugh.gif
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post Aug 17 2016, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Aug 17 2016, 10:36 AM)
so tell me if  poorfag or it's for a 2/3rd car, why wud u buy a 51k car? Just for the toys ka. kek

56k is auto baidewei.

and please enlighten what is this "hi tech toys" that ure tokin about man
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"real keyless entry" not fake one like ......
"real start button" not ...... whistling.gif
DVVTi not iafm
Aisin Seiki of Japan not punch of China
definitely not bulb tail lights
EPS not dinasour hydrolic
start stop vs cannot start
cheap maintaince vs fuyoo
definitely not too fat for the engine to run
does not drink fuel like water
do not do krek krek,Ngek Ngek, thump thump
not seat berbulu problem
no senget glovebox
power windows that works

so in what sense that preve is a better car? it's just a bigger car and definitely not better. next you probably gonna complain persona and iriz are overpriced as your bigger preve is cheaper laugh.gif

if the new civic is sold at it original price will you still buy the preve at 6k less? at least bezza is sold at the same price its original car the Mira Es is sold at.
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post Aug 17 2016, 10:23 PM

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if those are low tech what is iafm and punch? whistling.gif
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post Aug 18 2016, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Aug 18 2016, 08:31 AM)
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Yesterday, i lazy reply. Ok now.

I asked you what is the so-called high tech toys in Beza 51k and suddenly you compare here and there with Preve. Seriously i laugh.

Im not the one who compare here and there but becoz you started first and you have defined high tech toys so well, here are the Preve "high tech toy"

Im not saying Preve is the mightiest, best-est car im just saying for the price, these are the "toy"

"real keyless entry" not fake one like: "real start button" not ...... whistling.gifAgree on this, but wait how much u gonna paywhen you lost your key or rosak the key after warranty expired

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what preve got no high tech keys? whistling.gif
my iriz got immobilizer built into the key. not like you can duplicate it either


DVVTi not iafm. Ok IAFM Campro is still young i admit, but at least never break down in 7 years of ownership for my Saga BLM (150k km mileage). Never buat hal

still old. some car has heavy body but advance engine like mazda3, some has light body and sufficient engine like city. P1 has fat body with dinasour engine


Aisin Seiki of Japan not punch of China. This one i admit Punch CVT is the weakest point of a Preve

geartrax>all

definitely not bulb tail lights: Seriously? I dont care bout the bulb light but coz u mention lights, my quest is why P2 never resolved 3rd rake lamp, same sampah terbakar for myvi, alza, axia, kek

when to migrate into iriz Bosch? at least engine can start whenever pipu want it to start tongue.gif such obvious flaws also want to nipick 3rd rake lamp


EPS not dinasour hydrolic: This dinosaur hydraulic gives me confidence when cornering and high speed cruising whistling.gif

iriz has ZF EPS like BMW. light at go, heavy at cornering. so yeah preve hydraulic is dinasour

start stop vs cannot start. What cannot stop? And this start stop i think one of the main reason why this Bezza is overpriced though.

same price and equipment list as any internationally sold A segment. preve 6k discount over civic is not.

cheap maintaince vs fuyoo. Fuyoo as in? P1 maintenance always cheapest and parts easy to find.
definitely not too fat for the engine to run.


really? why everyone else put a 1.8-2.4 engine in C segment?

P1 maintaince is stupid. why need to change spark plug when P2 say no need to change it for 5 years? checking the iriz maintaince schedule vs bezza make me wanna cry.

This fat car saves many lives before (for the previous batch non ESC Preve especially) The thick pillar and HPF. rclxms.gif
does not drink fuel like water. Refer my previous posts.

bezza got higher safety rating than iriz. of course not drink fuel like water if you compare it to iswara tongue.gif

do not do krek krek,Ngek Ngek, thump thump. Kahkah, See Bezza thread, already got people complain on noise here and there
not seat berbulu problem. Funny u mentioned this, my seat berbulu2 before, but after using lean roller one time, the seat never berbulu again until now.

I'm the one that complain, fix already as hook is not secured. you know P1 can easily fix those sound with duct taped like some P1 owner had. guess what they did?

no senget glove box. U seriously affected by this?
power windows that works. Come on man, it's already 2016 u still talking bout power windows issue. Even my Previous BLM never had issue.



yes. why glove box becum senget? everyone else glovebox tak senget pon

Owh other than that the other "toys" (in the "useless big fat cheap inferior Preve") that i have to mention:

- R&H gives me the confidence when cornering. Come join me i can give u chance to drive to Cameron using Tapah road
- So much fun for such cheap car. Come join me i can give u chance to drive old road Gombak Bentong
- Satisfaction when driving (Coz of the so called dinosaur hydraulic steering and stock stabilizer bar for more assist)
- ESC, EBD, ABS, BA, TC, 6 air bags (including side and curtain), 4 disc brake, multi-link suspension, HPF body for the safety and confidence on the road
- Home light which i always use when i reach home at night.
- No sakit leher sakit belakang rear seat for my passengers. my passengers are comfortable, my luggage also comfortable.
- Big boot space (yalah this one P1 tiru Bezza kek) that the unker The Star paper can go enter and review keke
- No video game console like handling, no sampan handling when 160kmph and when cornering. I remain calm driving 160kmph when i rushing home coz tak buleh tahan mau vera and kincin
- Steering rack that can be adjusted
- no "upskirt sexy nampak panty" rear
- no tall and narrow body like kena tiup angin mau tumbang.
- Aircond so cold when panas terik afternoon
- 50 liter fuel tank, i dont have to find petrol station after just 350km journey
- Projector headlamp with LED
- DOnt have to fork out 5k gearupcar to make the exterior look better (better as in to wear longer skirt without able to see the panty kekeke)
- 5 stars Australian NCAP not chapalang Asean NCAP without the side impact test
- An always working stop lamp (but will remind me when if it's not which is rare)
- Stock handrest center compartment
- Steering button to make last dialed call and also to accept cal without the need to even touch ur phone while driving and do not have to release my hands from steering.
- Door lock can be customized to unlock/lock driver door only on one press on the remote.
- 56k all in one


why pay 56k Could got an iriz at 46k? would always tapau your car as its has better engine, lighter body and Manual transmission. and you even get current generation car equivalent to others in equipment level and that tak Malu too others who say it's a dinasour. probably you never seen what a current generation C segment car look like kot?

like I said, bigger car not better car. might as well get 37k bezza if want big body with small engine and 1990 equipment list. or wait next year for TPP and can afford to buy a real C segment car like ford mondeo [quote]

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post Aug 18 2016, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Yamma @ Aug 18 2016, 09:44 AM)
so bezza which is cheaper than civic by 12k is bloody good price?

this make my day
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trapped in bolehland mentality
max A segment in aus is rm50k
max b segment 62k
entry level C segment like civic =62k
entry level D segment like Camry =75k

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