How bad it is? They said much roomier than old gen persona.
If it is roomier than old gen persona,then acceptable i guess. But if its much more cramped than old persona..

Clearly you have no idea on the interior.  The legroom is much roomier than the old persona.  The braking distance is improve over the old persona despite non all disc brakes.  The boot space is also bigger than the old persona, and the biggest in its class.  Even it is a B segment compare to the old Persona C segment, it is bigger where it needs to be.  Big in dimension, but not translate into usable space is pointless.

It is possible.  The Jazz B segment was even roomier than C segment car.  Wheelbase is wheelbase. It is how the engineer make use of that dimension into usable space. Proton is learning towards this, but still cannot match those Japanese who known to have very good skill in using space with restrictions.

You wait new engine come then tukar la

Yup..new engine suppose to be available by end of 2017 if im not mistaken. So maybe around 2018 we can see Persona/Saga with the new Proton engine AND Transimission(this time not punch cvt)

Got a lot of people test drive?

Was thinking of maybe just go and take a look this weekend.

Better than the Vios and City engine? Are you serious? Toyota's engines have won global awards from car magazines after much testing and comparison. Proton's Campro engine is an outdated piece that needs to be replaced fast.

The problem is, no major car blogs would talk about it due to the fear that Proton will stop advertising with them.

ya..my preve used to be quiet during 1st year. haha. but anyway, it is not that loud nor giving problem to me. just when compare with my brother's myvi (bought same year), can noticed the engine noise from cabin.

persona engine is old,yes,thats true. toyota's engines have won many awards,yes,that's true,but just that i dont know whether vios or city engine has won any awards before. maybe i miss it.

its actually a tiny bit better cuz when talking about rnh,not only suspension types taking into account,also rigidity of the chasis(less flexing),absorber n spring damping rate,steering gearing ratio n setup. plus esc do help plus traction control where also involve reduce engine power n braking to give natural handling,compare to most esc in the segment or below use braking only.  but if old persona has what it is in new persona,so multilink is better.

good things about multilink,it is easier to be adjusted n tuned cuz its independant,n to find out balanced between handling n comfort is easier. for torsion beam,since its fix, if too too much focus to be sharp handling,normally it will become too stiff,so,take out comfort.

but if talking about comfort especially bad road,multilink is the best for common cars.

the cons,it is heavier,cost more.

just test drive new persona just now. for me everything are nice except for a little bit lagg (perhaps 0.3s the car move after pressing the pedal).
overall built quality suits its price but the steering wheel cover look a little bit cheap.
for me its worth to buy even its downgraded to B segment compare to previous version. safety tiptopp

Just had a short test drive session at Taman Wahyu Proton dealer while i was on the way home sending my iswara for a rear bumper installation/repair lol

pros:
- the engine bay is really neat
- Made in china Bosch ESP module on the left
- very thick looking anti roll bar and neat looking electric powered steering rack
- the 510 liter rear boot space is HUGE and really impressive for a b segment. if anything, seemingly same, if not bigger sized than my c segment inspira.
- engine response seems better than the Iriz
- the new TCU tuning on the punch transmission was really impressive compared to the Iriz experience. Less hesitation and less jerking on low speeds; Makes you forget if you're even on a clutch based CVT.
- Suspension/handling was impressive even if it was only short distance with generally straight roads. and while i didn't get to test the ESP on more extreme cornering, i did get to fly through lots of road bumps/uneven roads within Taman Wahyu vicinity and the ride is really supple all the way. really good balance for an a to b comfort oriented family sedan.
- NVH is even improved from the Iriz! although my particular car (that has 400km driven despite being a test drive car LOL! looks like good demand/interest!)  has dashboard rattling when i bring the RPMs up to 6k (impressive, given its a CVT unit, and without engaging L gear as well!)
to emphasize how well it is, besides the engine roar that came up only past 4k rpm, the air cond fan blowing was the only noise i heard.
- aircond/fan speed knobs etc was further improved from the Iriz, much sturdier and the clicks are very pleasant from switching it up around.
- steering has a damn nice feel to it despite being electric power steering. not too heavy, not too light, just right for me.
- i LOVE the frabric seats, more so than the leather
really good feel and since it is dark colored, looks like it'll last very long as well with minimal to no maintenance required.
- Love the meter cluster design! very high contrast of white/red/black background themed.
a bit small though however considering the overall dashboard/panels have shrunk in size as the persona is basically a b segment, understandable i guess.

cons:
- gear lever position is really far
- steering position a bit high after lifting it up for leg clearance
- speaking of leg clearance, the foot well in the front is quite cramped. it would be amazing if they can score 5 star NCAP/ANCAP without deducting points from the crash dummy avoiding leg injury as the bottom dashboard portion and the steering is basically in contact with my knees all the time.
- and again on the footwell, the left foot rest for the automatic is basically just beside the brake pedal which doesn't leave room for the clutch pedal and a footrest combined if you look at how cramped it is. makes one wonder if the manual would be even feasible or not with the given position
- YES AGAIN on the foot positioning, the pedals were pretty weird to me as the brakes were a bit higher up than the accelerator. ignoring that it is quite far apart between each other (yes i know its an auto however usually they don't specifically re-design/re-position the pedals between auto/manual variants) the high/low positioning of the brake and accelerator also leaves much to be desired. Did i mention the accelerator being lowly positioned? yes, oddly enough the travel of said accelerator pedal is very minimal, seemingly in an almost "on/off" switch ish with very little applicable modulation. maybe its just my personal problem with a lead chained intensely heavy right foot, but hey this may actually be a good thing depending on how you look at it.
- still apparent throttle lag/response on the DBW system/Clutch engagement of the punch transmission, although from the rough feel, still slightly better than the Iriz.
however, once you get it going, it goes, nuff said

The HU is not so nice to use but it is acceptable.

For the FC, after using the car for about a day, I managed to get to about 7 something litres for 100km. Combination of highway, fast and slow driving plus city. Not too bad lah. Will improve further as it runs in.

Those minor issue will always be there - maybe in lower rate if the QC & QA are very much tightened. A car is made of thousands of components, which even grouped into chassis, drivetrain, electronics, accessories etc. Even if one of the component screw-up, it may affect the whole car. It is not easy to control yo.

If P1 / P2 doesnt exist, I think the price of sushi and kimchi car will still be the same (see the sushi / kimchi car price in Thai / Indo / Phils - almost same as us). Only maybe we will have more choices of car at RM30k ~70k region.