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TSarturo_bandini
post Aug 11 2016, 03:19 PM, updated 9y ago

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in case you never heard of it, webe tries to make some extra money by charging you if you want to use wifi tethering when on their network. they'll just forward you to some webpage if you have not activated (and paid for) tethering but tried it anyway:

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there are several known methods telcos use to detect tethering, e.g.:
How can phone companies detect tethering

i'm thinking of identifying webe's method and publish a countermeasure here, but currently very busy with real work. any sifu here have looked at it?

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post Aug 23 2016, 09:05 AM

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they likely has DPI (deep packet inspection) filtering somewhere, the same technology used by TM to detect torrenting etc.

the best counter against that would be encryption, but that would require an external server. probably we install proxy in the main device (tethered devices will go through this proxy) with some tweaks to fool the filter to think that the traffic is genuinely coming from the main device alone.
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post Oct 14 2016, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(cklong46 @ Oct 14 2016, 08:09 AM)
i have used webe here in kelantan..and the ping is 33ms (LTE) while using speedtest app on my iphone5..the download speed that i reach is 29.9Mbps..I dont test the sim yet with the zte mf70..
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please let us know your webe experience with zte mf70 later...

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post Nov 28 2016, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(inamie @ Nov 28 2016, 09:00 AM)
Somebody can comfirm this? Can use usb thetering to pc?
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from what i read, actually a few methods have been tested and found to work. just read this thread and another thread linked somewhere here, you may get some idea. and yes, some friends reported success in using usb (instead of wifi) tethering.

but i lost interest in webe due to a few factors:

1. horrible signal / service quality at my place (which could actually be due to celcom due to webe having agreement with celcom for 2G-3G).

2. the fact that they can always "detect" your workaround later and ban your line, or worse (in true P1 style, maybe you will get a bill of RM9999 and a threat to CTOS you if you do not pay). please read the fine print.

3. it's also a TM company now. TM already f**ks us upside down with streamyx & unifi. i don't have any extra hole to let them f**k me again.

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post Jan 25 2017, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(MechaHerc @ Jan 25 2017, 04:22 PM)
I just got this..

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this is what i was talking about... even if you find a method which allows you to bypass their control, nothing stops them from "suspecting" you did something which is against the T&C and therefore block your account. worse, if they can prove you really did something against T&C, their "P1 DNA" may emerge and they may claim all loss of income due to you using their service in improper manner.

so how much would they claim? if they keep proper records of how many hours you bypassed their control, the bill may go up to hundreds if not thousands. CTOS incoming...

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post Feb 6 2017, 02:26 PM

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one point that can be made here is that webe is already throttling P2P traffic, which means it already has some kind of DPI (deep packet inspection) equipment placed somewhere.

if this equipment can already detect P2P packets and throttle them, as it can now, then the only reason it has not detected all those "special methods" outlined here is because those webe guys have not fully & properly configured it yet.

the only way consumers can avoid having their traffic analyzed by DPI is through encryption (e.g. VPN) but even then, nothing stops webe from arguing that "user X uses VPN" + "user X uses huge amount of data" = "user X must be bypassing our tethering control methods" => "let's ban this user + charge him RM9,999.99 for all those bypassed data + send his name to CTOS if he does not pay". webe is now part of TM so it has an army of under-utilized lawyers to fight for them.

(or they may play nicer and just throttle VPN traffic the same way they throttle P2P traffic. either way we lose.)
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post Oct 24 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(sd22 @ Oct 24 2017, 01:23 PM)
Hi guys can any sifu help with my query?

Hi so webe got another promo now unlimited all for RM79. Has anyone tried it with this kind of wireless router?

http://www.lazada.com.my/prolink-prn3003l-...94635.html?ff=1

Because in their terms they have put these settings to use hotspot for apple phones. but cant find these settings on ios10. not sure if i use the router will they detect it as hotspot and cap it at 10gb.

Tap Settings.
2. Tap Mobile data.
3. Tap Mobile Data Options.
4. Tap Mobile data network.
5. In Personal hotspot tap APN.
6. Enter webe.
7. Tap Back arrow 3 times.
8. Tap Personal hotspot.
9. Tap Personal hotspot switch to make it enable.
10. Tap Turn on Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
11. Now Personal hotspot is enabled
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this model does not support lte band 5 which webe uses, so no.

http://prolink2u.com/COMING/index.php/comm...l#specification

also, in terms of bypassing the quota, i don't think any mainstream model would come with "anti-tethering quota bypass technique" right out of the box. some hacking / advanced reconfig would be required.

 

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