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post Sep 17 2016, 03:51 PM

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sifu , got a question about dragonite moveset .

i ran through lots of website , most of them said dragon claw + dragon breath is the best attacker .

steel wing and dragon pulse is the best defender .

http://www.pogomoves.com/check.php?pkmn=Dr...arge=Hyper+Beam

link above state that dragon breath + hyperbeam is the best attacker .


i have a self evolved dragonite 96IV ( dragon breath + hyper beam) , Another one is 89IV (dragon breath + dragon pulse) ..

question is , is it worth to invest power up on the 96IV breath + beam ? or should i wait until i lucky enough to get a breath + claw /:

and certain website stat that crit is now not implemented yet although is in the code , so for now the dps diff is minimal for claw vs beam .

but if crit hit is implemented , claw will have 25% chance to crit while beam only have 5% .

D: so hard to decide , and damn ... no luck at all to get a good IV with breath and claw .
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post Sep 17 2016, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 17 2016, 05:10 PM)
There's no best for everything. Depending whether you're using it for offensive or defensive purposes & if it's offensive, depending on which Pokemon is the defender.

Dragon Breath & Dragon Pulse is good for taking down other Dragonites.

Dragon Breath & Hyper Beam is generally good for attacking any types.

Dragon Claw is good for defending.
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thanks bro night for the info !!!

for attacking i like quick skill ... for my snorlax , i love my lick + body slam , its really quick and fun to use . compare to my headbutt + beam snorlax .

so its a go to power up the breath + beam dragonite right .

im kinda bored to find another 125 dratini candy to evolve into a dragonite thats not breath + claw . doh.gif
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post Sep 18 2016, 05:44 AM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 18 2016, 12:54 AM)
For me, I personally like those 1 charge ultimate move like Hyper Beam, Solar Beam, Thunder, Hydro Pump etc. for attacking gyms cause the charge animation often spoil my dodging timing. So I prefer 1 powerful move to finish up the opponent.

Although I agree that those multiple charges move may deal more damage, but I don't always cast it the moment I can. So the overall DPS is lesser for players like me.

Those multiple charges is good for defending cause attackers tend to dodge the charged move only. So if the defender rarely do a charge move, it's easier for attackers to dodge it. While it's difficult for the attacker to dodge if the defender spams the charge move especially if the defender double cast its charge move.
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wah , thanks for the detail explanation bro night smile.gif

actually me too prefer 1 bar high dmg attack , cox i suck at gym atk and dodging ..

guess i look too much into those website about dps & crit ..

time to go easy on the detail and enjoy the game : notworthy.gif



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post Sep 20 2016, 04:51 AM

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i've been lucky on snorlax i guess .

i noted down all the caught location and time . share it with all the valor member here

- usj 2 small padang - 6.30pm wed - 498cp

- usj 2 shop lot - 5.15pm thur - 1882cp

- usj 2 jalan 2/4r - 10.30pm mon - 497cp

- inside sunway hospital - 8.30pm sat - 1512cp

- infront genting highland resort - 12am sat - 2274cp

- infront batu tiga tol smart tag lane - 10pm sun - 2321cp

- infront mcd ampang park - 4.30pm mon - 1860cp

- infront taylor college ss15 - 6pm tue - 1187cp

- opposite setia walk shop lot - 2am sat - 1127cp

no luck from egg though..

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post Sep 20 2016, 06:20 AM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 20 2016, 05:21 AM)
Wow = 15
Excellent = 14-13
Yea USJ 2 & Sunway area, somehow got lotsa Snorlax. But you're definitely very lucky.
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yup , lucky i stay at usj2 blush.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 20 2016, 09:40 AM)
I'm often at USJ2, the long straight road is good for hatching eggs.

Any good route around USJ to take down gyms? I'm interested in 10 gyms straight  biggrin.gif
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wah 10 gym straight ah notworthy.gif , im bad in gym taking over haha ..
at most 3 gym reward if lucky .

there's 3 gym in usj 2 , 2 in the field , 1 infront of a house opposite of summit mall .

then 1 gym at summit hotel bus stop .

these is the 4 gym i whack usually smile.gif

QUOTE(DuO LoN @ Sep 20 2016, 12:58 PM)
wah...u snorlax breeder ah....walanyeh. donasi 1 pls
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i got lucky i guess , but i get none from egg ... doh.gif

but long time didn't saw snorlax sighting edi now lately ..

QUOTE(Jer @ Sep 20 2016, 05:07 PM)
What level are you? So lucky of you to catch a 2.3k wild Snorlax laugh.gif
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when i catch them im around 25-29 level i think . just reached 30 now .


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post Sep 20 2016, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 20 2016, 10:13 PM)
10 gyms = 100 coins le, how can you resist? Can go for a shopping spree after claiming laugh.gif

I've claimed 100 coins several times already, then usually if possible also wanna aim at least 60 coins. But I admit that I did it during odd hours la. During my 1st attempt was with other Valorians here, 4 of us GB the gyms from 11pm to 1am. Not too bad la & it's very exciting rushing from 1 gym to another until the 10th.
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Wah 4 person go GB gym ah . Sounds Reay fun and 100 gold omg . That usually takes me 5 day . Each day 20 gold now only max haha
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post Sep 20 2016, 11:56 PM

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Oh damn !!!! For the very first time . A snorlax run away from me .

First throw . Black ball and Berry given . Straight swooooooshhh

Heart broken ... 1500cp+

My gf caught it . But 300cp . Skill lick body slam . IV decent .

Opposite sunway pyramid those flat .


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post Sep 21 2016, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(DuO LoN @ Sep 21 2016, 12:20 PM)
i just hatched another one so now total 3. BTW which should i power up. 80iv with zen headbutt n solar beam or 84iv with lick and earthquake? any pros can suggest? both same cp 1.7k from egg.
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i think u are saying hyperbeam instead of solar beam right .

most of the website said best attacking snorlax is lick + body slam . as body slam have the highest DPS . defensive snorlax they said is headbutt + hyperbeam .

DPS for lick and headbutt is almost same , i personally tried it in the gym . i like lick more than headbutt when i atk , its much faster ... body slam vs hyperbeam , i like hyperbeam more .

but earthquake is not that good because no stab bonus ..

so if u want to power it up , headbutt + beam is the better choice compare to earthquake .

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post Sep 22 2016, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(terryfu @ Sep 21 2016, 10:47 PM)
Hit me up if u wanna go together. Can do it faster. I always travel in pairs so there r 2 of us.
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alright , will let u know if im ready to whack gym together with u guys , my gf bday week , gonna be out of town for a week blush.gif

is your ign also terryfu ? i think i saw your name in summit gym .

QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 21 2016, 11:19 PM)
Zen Headbutt is Psychic type while Lick is Ghost type, so each has its own advantages depending on who's your enemy.

Between Body Slam, Earth Quake & Hyperbeam, again each as its own advantages depending on what is your Snorlax role.

There is no best or ultimate build/move set here.

BTW if you wanna be a serious gym hunter, should join me & Terry one day. More people to GB the gyms.
I really really really want seriously, cause I got an amazing Solar Beam Exeggutor from BKK & few hours ago got another Hydro Pump Gyarados from the Magikarp in Setiawalk with you LOL. So got 2 new beasts in my team now, very very blood coin thirsty already! laugh.gif Later will go for some midnight farming for Stardust in preparation to power up some fighters in my team.

But tomorrow 7am, I'll be departing to Penang. Saturday only will be back, then Saturday night might need to meet someone else. Left with Sunday lol & I'm still trying to find a day to PD & Bagan Lalang.....the poison is real brows.gif

Going to evolve my Squirtle & Oddish soon, so hoping for more beasts in my team. And my buddy Charmander has been popping more & more candies, making Dataran more & more tempting each passing day.

Wah damn, so many places to go but so limited time hahaha........
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thanks for the detail explanation again night smile.gif

ahhh !! penang !! lapras !!! thumbsup.gif

PD & bagan lalang got good stuff to catch ??

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post Sep 23 2016, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Sep 23 2016, 08:34 PM)
Yes. It actually ends with an S, but I can see where you are coming from.  biggrin.gif

I just passed by 5 minutes ago to check on the gym, down to level 6. But Snorlax sighted!!!
Snorlax just outside the KFC, 2.2k CP. I razz and hit a Nice throw with an Ultraball.....it broke out and ran away! NOOOOO!  cry.gif
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ytd me too , razz , curve ultra ball , nice shot , then swooooshhh .. run away in my first throw , 1500+ cp snorlax doh.gif

btw . for the scaling thing , i read through the thread , dun really understand , need the sifu here to clarify .

firstly question , so we are able to catch starter pokemon on their nest with good IV ? like charmander in Dataran ? because all the charmander i caught at dataran , appraise is confirm "may not be great in battle " puke.gif

and why catching wild snorlax and dragonite with good iv will be much harder?
i tot the IV for wild rare pokemon like snorlax and dragonite are random ?
because among all 11 snorlax i caught ,
IV random at : 42 , 51 , 53 , 53 , 55 , 60, 62 , 67 , 71 , 82 , 96 .

dragonite caught 3 , IV : 71 , 73 , 93 .

so the new scaling , does it mean will give 0% IV to wild snorlax and dragonite ? where the old scaling wont ?

sorry for the noob question . lol
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post Sep 25 2016, 06:19 AM

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5 piece 10km egg hatched at the same time

3 onix + 1 hitmonchan + 1 magmar ...

puke blood to the max !!! puke.gif puke.gif puke.gif

all the stuff i got already , and i never hatch a snorlax before !!!

got a question , when we get an egg , the outcome of the hatch is already determine , or when it done hatched , then only random give us a pokemon ?

btw , with the new update , the hatched pokemon show location as well

onix - subang jaya
onix - subang jaya
onix - Kuala lumpur
magmar - kuala lumpur
hitmonchan - kuala lumpur .

so now we can know the 10km egg we get it from which location .

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QUOTE(Alezabeth @ Sep 25 2016, 10:09 AM)
yep.
i think the outcome is pre-determined or hatching based on location you're currently at..
not sure
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hmmmm .... so far i did 2 mass 10km egg evolve ,

first time , 4x 10km egg ,
magmar
pinsir
pinsir
scyther

2nd time
onix
onix
magmar
onix
hitmonchan

but i too tried hatch it 1 by 1 , when do it 1 on a time ,

i get ,

kabuto
lapras
pinsir
eevee
lapras
magmar

so base on the comparison , hatch 1 by 1 seems like fetching better results .

for my gf , she only hatch 1 each time ,
results :

chansey
lapras
eevee
dratini
dratini

i think the egg is pre-determined when we get the egg , because me and my gf visit the same poke stop as we always hunt together , i get lapras + eevee , she also hatch lapras + eevee , but i didnt get dratini zzzzzzzz ... maybe because i do mass egg hatched , so some of the egg i get , start to be different with my GF .

need more bro to clarify on this though ...

QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 25 2016, 11:10 AM)
Never mind le, you caught so many Snorlax already laugh.gif
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but i dont have a snorlax with a skill set i like doh.gif

and now my bag , full 9 piece 5km egg ... sienzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

and ya @NightHeart , u ask me to check all the IV of my snorlax , IV range from 40 to 90% , cp range from 400 - 2200 , all also attack 15 ... some even with def 0 or stamina 0 . zzzz

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got a question for the sifu here ,

2 snorlax , which snorlax to power it ?

CP 2274 , IV : 82.2% (A15- D11 - S11 - Lick + body slam
CP 1860 , IV :95.6% (A15 - D14 , S14 - zen headbutt + hyper beam .


4 dragonite , which to power up ? or none worth it , have to wait for high IV + breath & claw ?

CP 2388 , IV : 95.6% (A15 - D14 - D14 )- Dragon breath + hyperbeam
CP 2185 , IV : 93.3% (A15 - D12 - S15 ) - Steel qing + dragone claw
cp 2372 , IV : 89% (A15 - D11 - S15 ) - Dragone breath + dragon pulse
cp 1840 , IV : 71% (A15 - D14 - S7 ) - dragon breath + dragon claw

this one use it for gym def is good right ? gym defender worth powering it up or no need ?
cp 2819 , IV : 73% (A15 - D7 - S11 ) - steel wing + dragon pulse

havent power up any of my battle stuff yet doh.gif

i know bro night said , there is no best skill set , diff skill counter diff pokemon , just want to double confirm is it worth to power up , candy + stardust susah get blush.gif
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post Sep 29 2016, 07:32 AM

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QUOTE(Jer @ Sep 25 2016, 07:28 PM)
IMO, anything below 80% is not worth powering up and there is no bad moveset for a Snorlax.
If you want to dominate gyms, it's all about having the highest CP mon so that you are parked at the highest position possible. A good example of this would be your 2819CP, 73% Dragonite which in most case, should be able to sit in a very high position in any gym. Sadly, that's the current meta where everybody is just placing Dragonites in gyms and ignoring the other Tier 1 and Tier 2 monsters for diversity. In the end, it all depends on your priority and resource management (candy, stardust) so good luck!
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 25 2016, 11:23 PM)
Which to power up really depends on your playstyle & what's your objective? Whether you wanna destroy gyms for fun or defend gyms as long as possible to collect coins. Whether you play solo or in group.

Separate your Pokemons into 2 team. Team Attacker & Team Defender, Attackers are used to destroy gyms while Defenders are used to park in gyms.

In the Attacker team, the key is to have a variety of move types so that you can take advantage of the enemy Defender's weaknesses. Also, as mentioned before, get those "ultimate" charged move e.g. Solar Beam, Hydro Pump, Fire Blast, Thunder, Moon Blast, Hyper Beam etc. But that is also personal preference, some people may argue those "ultimate" charged moves isn't the highest DPS. I hate the charge move animation, it spoils my dodge tempo. So I prefer to have 1 powerful charge move instead of multiple weaker charged move.

In the Defender team, the key is to have the highest CP possible to sit as high as possible in the gym. So that when enemy team attack, your Defender won't be the early ones to drop out. I'm referring to those level 7 to 10 gyms that can actually hold against solo players (unless the solo player is really rich in resources). Check the ranking HERE to see which are the top Pokemons in terms of CP. Not many actually; Dragonite, Snorlax, Lapras, Arcanine, Exeggutor, Vaporeon & maybe Gyarados only. So technically, your Defender Team should consist of those only if you wanna sit comfortably on top of the gym.

For me, I like taking down gyms in groups & defend my level 10 gym as long as possible for ez 10 coins. Based on that kinda style, I power up my Attacker Team first. For my Attacker Team, I power up just enough to reach CP2k & that's about it. When attacking in groups, I have other players to back up my weaker attackers anyway. So I don't see the need to go up to CP3k at the moment. Now that I have a somewhat solid Attacker Team, I'm focusing to build my Defender Team. I'm only powering up those top CP Pokemons with high IV (high IV = more CP) just so that they can sit at a higher position in the gym. 

So, what kinda Pokemon Trainer are you?  laugh.gif
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Thanks bro jer and night for the awesome and detail explanation. Sorry for the late reply . I was sick . Damn flu is killing me . Didn't played much lately .

I like to destroy gym actually haha .

For defending gym . My area . Those gym usually get taken down real fast . And my work time and play time is very tight , hence I usually solo .

I'm still noob on taking on gym . Usually just catch catch catch . Haven't really try to power up my "attack squad" and "def squad" . By looking down at some bro comment . They are leveling up the gym using bubble strategy ?

I'm noob , so if I sees a free spot on a red gym . I usually put in my highest cp mon . Dragonite or snorlax . Will it spoil other bro bubble strategy ? If yes . I apologize lol .

Today try to attack a blue gym with lapras . Ice shard ice beam . 2300 cp . I was sleepy . So I use the auto choosen mon . Executor 2300 cp and 1800 cp . Both mati to that lapras @.@ .


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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Sep 29 2016, 11:05 AM)
Woo what's the moveset?
Very good question

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I need to start charging teh tarik for these information man...
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Bro ? Mind to share what radar u using ? I'm on android and using pokewhere and pokemesh.
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Sep 29 2016, 12:28 PM)
I setup my own pogomap on laptop running 24/7 (though it crashed last night) laugh.gif

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i tried to use https://pokemongomap.github.io/PoGoMapWebsite/# at google chrome laptop .

it have error . say pkmgomap refuse to connect .

i downloaded the files . but dunno how to use ..

any guide ah sifu??
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QUOTE(Alezabeth @ Sep 29 2016, 07:26 PM)
First Aero of the day.. In office laugh.gif dont even need to move my a$$.

cp 1.4k

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Edit: Wow arcanine also spawned at same spot

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wow , where is the lure location , so nice spawn arcanine , i also wanna go there light up some lure liao thumbup.gif

QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 29 2016, 07:52 PM)
Bubble Strategy is quite hard to even do, because you need 2 Pokemons with specific CP & move sets. Most people are just happy being able to pump 500 Prestige at least per training. So just continue putting your best CP defender. I just hate people sniping gyms with less than CP1k defenders.

Exeggutor is weak to Ice & Lapras is an Ice Pokemon. Don't buta buta rely on the auto recommended pokemons.

You're staying in USJ 1 right? If you're willing to move, from Summit all the way to Main Place, can get more than 10 gyms ma. I parked 1 of my defender in USJ1 earlier during lunch time, still standing till now. I've surveyed the area & I'm gonna plan a route to conquer 10 gyms in USJ area soon.
I saw earlier today, just along LDP. There were 2 level 10 & 1 level 9 Valorian Gym. For the level 9, weakest defender was a CP2.7k Exeggutor. I can't imagine the other defenders above that  laugh.gif

People are building level 10 gyms now with super high level defenders. Those sitting on top can sit there for weeks at good locations.
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i'm staying at usj 2 , guess i'll just avoid the advance bubble strats , time to start practice dodge , and remember all typing advantage . need to delete some poke balls and save up pots and revive .

wow , looking forward for the sifu valorian here to paint the all the gym red along summit to main place . i'll try to park in !! haha
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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 29 2016, 09:53 PM)
I'm often at USJ 2 as well, i like USJ 2's long straight roads, good for hatching eggs. Got 1 gym at each fields, but high traffic, can't hold for long.

If I'm raiding gyms from Summit to Main Place, come join la. The more the faster we take down, the challenge is to level up for all of us to park our defender.

I made a thread on battle info, but not many seems to interested in gym battles so no business there; https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4038431&hl=
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thumbsup.gif ok ok , when im not outstation , surely will join in and learn from the pro's !!!!

i've read up the post on the link . good work bro !

QUOTE(Alpha Wolf @ Sep 29 2016, 10:46 PM)
Putting your most powerful mon in while a bubble strategy is in progress wouldn't spoil it as we can quit battle when it comes to your powerful pokemon and still earn prestige points for the previous battles. In fact, throwing in your powerful mon would help defend the gym while the bubble strategy is in progress so that the weak training pokemon doesn't get knocked out immediately.

On a side note, anyone know where exist a diglet's nest? I got my first bubble stratable diglet today but it's powered-once CP is 11 instead of remaining at 10 which would be the most ideal. At least, I can now level a gym at 909 prestige points instead of the previous 500+ using razor leaf Oddish as a replacement because diglets are so hard to find, what more a cp 10 diglet with the right fast move and ideally right IV.

Alezabeth! So lucky! I want your Arcanine  sweat.gif
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thanks for the info bro ! glad i didn't ruin other valorian hard work .

wow ! 909 prestige per round ! notworthy.gif
so far i too cant locate any diglet nest , but i do caught a 10cp diglet ytd , skill = scratch and rock tomb . appraise , atk strong .

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after yum cha with friends , otw back , gf saw sighting near 1mont kiara , dragonite ,

rush there , it spawn inside a gated condo , the security wont let me in , i pretend said i need to u turn ,

enter!! dragonite spawn , click , cp??? my gf phone wont spawn , time finished i bet !

he then force me out of the condo area ,

used like 70 ultra ball and razz .. finally manage to catch it !

havent check exact IV , but appraisal said "amaze " + "blown away def" with dragon breath and claw !

GF damn sad she cant get ! console.gif

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