Anyone got experience changing course that offered at UM,UKM and other IPTA?

Technically, you can't. What people usually do is quit the current course and reapply to the new place. This can take up to a year because you need to wait for the applications to open again.

You can't. Once you are given a course you are not allowed to appeal.

I have a friend who got a course he did not want. He was told to study the course offered for a semester or two first and then reapply for a change.

He so far has failed to have his application approved, and I don't foresee a success.

nope. no such thing as changing course.

take it or leave it

I'm curious...

If a student accepts an offer from an IPTA A this year, then reapply for different course via UPU from IPTA B the following year while still studying in IPTA A...

Will he be getting an offer? or somehow the UPU knows the student has been enrolled in IPTA A... ?

Beggars can't be choosers even when it comes to education.

I dun think can change

Not possible... have to quit first then reapply. Unless you have big solid cable behind...

Nope. The system will know..
Even if u managed to get, u still will be disqualified later..
So why waste time..

the system will flag him. that's why he needs to quit first, then apply. u cant suka2 apply and deprive others from acquiring a place . mentang2lah u dah dapat .

it's pretty hard to switch universities, even with the same course. despite being public universities, each IPTA are separate independent body who has its own autonomy. it's not like 2ndary schools or polytechnics, where they are all governed by the education ministry.

it is actually much easier to switch to a different course within the same university, because then u will deal with two deans (from different faculties) within the same university under the same senate body. heck, if u wanna change course within the same faculty is even easier, as the dean has the final say and do not need to go up to the senate level.

How do I go about doing that? Write letter or straight face to face meeting with dean?

A little harsh to call the applicants 'beggars' don't you think?

There are serious people who are in financial difficulties that only IPTA can help. Calling them beggars is unfair.

The system is unfair. Not the applicants.

That's basically the harsh reality of our education system itself. I myself probably won't get the course that i want later. That's just an expression which unfortunately kind of true to represent our education system.

U are arguing about the selection process, not the education system. So please dont lump everything together and generalize.

The selection process has a high degree of chance due to the higher number of applicants than there are places. The reason why top students couldnt get a place is not because they are being sidelined by race (well not entirely), but because they are all applying for the same course: MEDICINE being one of the most popular.

U cant just make more schools to accommodate more medicine-prone students. There are quality and standard to uphold. So those top students who are less fortunate will get dropped from their 1st choice. The system will look at the 2nd choice. 3rd and so on.

But guess what? Most students put MEDICINE for all of their choices, severely putting them at a disadvantage.

Ive handled intakes for over 12 years now. There are ways to increase your chances of getting the course u want. There are plenty of blogs out there that publish trends and grade average of university intakes every year. Just learn the trend, and go against it.

Meaning if people are always applying to USM medicine, dont bother applying there. If the trend ossicilates between years, then look if the trend was higher last year, and apply that this year.

Use those statistics subjects u learn in school to good use.

The selection process is integrated into education system itself unfortunately. Of course there are ways to analyze which choices have higher rate of success but unfortunately most other don't bother.

Then lash out at the system. Be clear about what is the the actual problem. The system is stupid and unfair. The system is the problem.

The applicants are the victims, and for them to be labelled 'beggars' is uncalled for because majority of them don't apply for IPTA because they want IPTA. They apply for it because it is their only route that is financially possible. The fees may be only 1-2k a year for IPTA courses but a lot of them are so poor they still need to get PTPTN assistance. How can these people be called "beggars"?

It's like calling the refugees from war-torn countries "scums and beggars" in other countries where they are accepted. What rubbish is this?

Beggars can't be chooser just an expression. Why get so agitated? I myself couldn't afford other than ipta. But honestly it's an expression which i assumes everyone know about but words can be so open to interpretation. It's just an expression to represents the current system and the users of the system. I'm not insulting anyone, but the situation is true. Call the system is fate or bad luck but it is what it is.

This post has been edited by neuro4869: Aug 8 2016, 10:51 PM

Relax bro, it's just an idiom. The word beggars here does not literally refers to the group that are poor, but rather to the people who lack any choices. Thus, in this case, those who only have UA to choose and are not able to choose anything else, can't really be choosy and must be thankful for what they get. As the saying goes, beggars can't be choosers.

My bad, I don't learn idioms. Ain't good in English anyway. My apologies. But personally I still hate that expression. I still don't think it's an appropriate statement even if it's an idiom that should not be taken literally.