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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V12!

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TristanX
post Aug 8 2016, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Aug 8 2016, 11:15 AM)
Hello bro, I changed my mind, will go for Palit GTX 750 Storm now.

So if I buy the GTX 750 card, will this PSU be able to handle it?

http://www.lazada.com.my/avf-ps550-power-s...0w-3186387.html
(AVF PS550-F12R)

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Nope. That is another BS PSU. The most it can handle is around 250W continuous. Nvidia recommends 300W or better for GTX 750.
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QUOTE(GroundMan @ Aug 8 2016, 12:05 PM)
Hi guys

I have asked earlier for mitx build for office use. Local shops only sell this mobo

Msi h110m pro vh
Msi b150m bazooka

Is this compatible for mitx build? Casing used is cm130
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Both aren't mITX, they are mATX, so it is not compatible with CM Elite 130 case.
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post Aug 8 2016, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Aug 8 2016, 12:30 PM)
Nope. That is another BS PSU. The most it can handle is around 250W continuous. Nvidia recommends 300W or better for GTX 750.
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Then how about this one?

http://www.lazada.com.my/avf-power-supply-...0w-1477917.html
(AVF extreme power 650W)
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post Aug 8 2016, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Aug 8 2016, 01:11 PM)
Then how about this one?

http://www.lazada.com.my/avf-power-supply-...0w-1477917.html
(AVF extreme power 650W)
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Avoid AVF PSU if possible, go for FSP Hexa+ 400/450W, around RM 150.

Getting a cheap and unreliable PSU = put your PC at risk.
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post Aug 8 2016, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 02:14 PM)
Avoid AVF PSU if possible, go for FSP Hexa+ 400/450W, around RM 150.

Getting a cheap and unreliable PSU = put your PC at risk.
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So in my case, getting a reliable 400W PSU from reputable PSU suppliers is good enough?
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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Aug 8 2016, 02:48 PM)
So in my case, getting a reliable 400W PSU from reputable PSU suppliers is good enough?
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True power 350 - 400W is enough smile.gif
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QUOTE(imbagaijiin @ Aug 8 2016, 02:48 PM)
So in my case, getting a reliable 400W PSU from reputable PSU suppliers is good enough?
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Yes, 350-400W is more than enough.
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post Aug 8 2016, 04:56 PM

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Thanks for recommendation. for this rig, what is my options to upgrade next time if AAA game required better GPU?

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 437
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Tecware F3 - RM 129

Total: RM 2039 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 8 2016, 04:56 PM)
Thanks for recommendation. for this rig, what is my options to upgrade next time if AAA game required better GPU?

Intel Core i3 6098P - RM 437
Gigabyte H110M-DS2 (D4) - RM 249
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 131
Sapphire RX460 4GB GDDR5 Nitro - RM 689
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 189
Tecware F3 - RM 129

Total: RM 2039 (Techview price inclusive of GST)
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If the games requires better GPU then surely go for a more powerful GPU but at the same time, you still have to check if the GPU that you are going to get will be bottlenecked by the CPU or not (i3 in this case).


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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 08:45 AM)

RAM can be downgraded to normal one but Skylake does show performance improvements when pairing with high speed RAM, this is normally not the case during DDR3 era, but DDR4, they are  biggrin.gif


Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Just curious about one thing. I've read and seen benchmark which claims that Skylake improve performance with higher speed ram as you said, but most board I see (like one you shown) only lists 2133MHz speed.

http://www.gigabyte.de/products/product-pa...spx?pid=5484#sp

Does it means need to OC so that the board can read let's say 3000MHz ?
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QUOTE(aliesterfiend @ Aug 8 2016, 05:24 PM)
Just curious about one thing. I've read and seen benchmark which claims that Skylake improve performance with higher speed ram as you said, but most board I see (like one you shown) only lists 2133MHz speed.

http://www.gigabyte.de/products/product-pa...spx?pid=5484#sp

Does it means need to OC so that the board can read let's say 3000MHz ?
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Only Z170 mobo allows RAM overclocking, H110/B150/H170 will have the RAM set at base clock of DDR4 (2133MHz) and you cannot overclock it manually.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 05:29 PM)
Only Z170 mobo allows RAM overclocking, H110/B150/H170 will have the RAM set at base clock of DDR4 (2133MHz) and you cannot overclock it manually.
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Ok. Thx.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 05:15 PM)
If the games requires better GPU then surely go for a more powerful GPU but at the same time, you still have to check if the GPU that you are going to get will be bottlenecked by the CPU or not (i3 in this case).
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Thanks rclxms.gif

So to allow room for future expansion, so I better change to better CPU such as Intel Core i5 6500 or greater to cater for more powerful GPU later on when budget allow again?


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QUOTE(wongtk @ Aug 8 2016, 09:36 PM)
Thanks  rclxms.gif

So to allow room for future expansion, so I better change to better CPU such as Intel Core i5 6500 or greater to cater for more powerful GPU later on when budget allow again?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 8 2016, 08:45 AM)
If I were to go for OC build, I won't take 6600K considering DX12 and Vulkan have started to become mature now in games (slowly) and should become the major API for all the upcoming games in next 3 years, this is where the 6700K starts to shine thanks to its multicore. DX12 and Vulkan aim to take advantage of the multicore of the CPU and reduce the CPU overhead for better graphics output performance.

It is just like you have 4 legs (i5) vs 8 legs (i7), no matter how much steroid (OC) you put in 4 legs, it is still very hard to beat the 8 legs, either in speed or efficiency, but then if you cannot fork out extra for the 8 legs (i7), stick with 4 legs (i5), it will work too, regardless of K or non-K, K gives you extra ability to OC it when needed (after several years when Skylake CPU starts to show some bottleneck symptoms like 1st and 2nd gen Intel CPU now).

RAM can be downgraded to normal one but Skylake does show performance improvements when pairing with high speed RAM, this is normally not the case during DDR3 era, but DDR4, they are  biggrin.gif

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1311
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 290
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 255
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409

Total: RM 4710 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
Stock reached Malaysia last week, if it hasn't sold out yet then you can get it on the spot.

Please consult Techview for stock availability.
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Tks so much man appreciate the explanation .
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post Aug 9 2016, 08:46 AM

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Hi guys, plan to upgrade my PC by adding a SSD & Ram, budget around Rm500..any idea which SSD & Ram should I get (compatibility wise)?

My current PC spec:

I5 4570
Gigabyte H87-D3H
Team Elite 4gb ram
Zotac 950
FSP 500W
500GB & 1 TB HDD

Here's what I plan to get, wonder if it's compatible with my Mobo..

1. Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 120GB SSD
2. Kingston HyperX Fury 8gb DDR3-1866 or should i just get the 1600 version, price not much difference...

Thank you.

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QUOTE(Gaia34 @ Aug 9 2016, 08:46 AM)
Hi guys, plan to upgrade my PC by adding a SSD & Ram, budget around Rm500..any idea which SSD & Ram should I get (compatibility wise)?

My current PC spec:

I5 4570
Gigabyte H87-D3H
Team Elite 4gb ram
Zotac 950
FSP 500W
500GB & 1 TB HDD

Here's what I plan to get, wonder if it's compatible with my Mobo..

1. Samsung 850 EVO 2.5" 120GB SSD
2. Kingston HyperX Fury 8gb DDR3-1866 or should i just get the 1600 version, price not much difference...

Thank you.

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To avoid compatibility issue, try to but the exact same RAM module as mix and match RAM doesn't always guarantee they will work together, since you are going to get a 8GB RAM, if the 4GB doesn't accept the new 8GB, then just drop the 4GB, if they accept each other, you will have 12GB RAM in total.

Pick the one with 1600MHz, your mobo cannot utilize 1866MHz even if you get the 1866MHz due to chipset limitation. You still can pick 1866MHz, just the mobo will downclock the speed to 1600MHz automatically, if your old 4GB RAM is running at 1333MHz, the new RAM will go down further to 1333MHz as well in most of the cases.

The SSD you picked is SATA SSD, just make sure you have a free SATA slot on your mobo and you are good to go. Other cheap alternatives are Kingston UV400 & HyperX Fury & 750 EVO etc.
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Aug 9 2016, 10:39 AM)
To avoid compatibility issue, try to but the exact same RAM module as mix and match RAM doesn't always guarantee they will work together, since you are going to get a 8GB RAM, if the 4GB doesn't accept the new 8GB, then just drop the 4GB, if they accept each other, you will have 12GB RAM in total.

Pick the one with 1600MHz, your mobo cannot utilize 1866MHz even if you get the 1866MHz due to chipset limitation. You still can pick 1866MHz, just the mobo will downclock the speed to 1600MHz automatically, if your old 4GB RAM is running at 1333MHz, the new RAM will go down further to 1333MHz as well in most of the cases.

The SSD you picked is SATA SSD, just make sure you have a free SATA slot on your mobo and you are good to go. Other cheap alternatives are Kingston UV400 & HyperX Fury & 750 EVO etc.
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Thanks for your suggestion, fyi, I will remove the 4gb ram & replace it with the 8gb ram, will have a look at the SSDs you suggested. smile.gif
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Heya guys, I'm back again for a build recommendations. This time for a whole rig. Here goes;

[Budget] RM5k, can add a bit more if needed.

[Purpose] Gaming. Wish to upgrade to fhd 144hz soon. Maybe 4k in the future.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Still be using current monitor and peripherals.

[Monitor resolution] FHD60Hz for now, wish to upgrade soonish.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA games (e.g Witcher 3, Rise of Tomb Raider, Fallout 4, FFXIV etc.)

[Personal preferences] intel cpu and nvidia gpu preferable.

[Location] Penang

Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers.

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QUOTE(cressalve @ Aug 9 2016, 11:34 AM)
Heya guys, I'm back again for a build recommendations. This time for a whole rig. Here goes;

[Budget] RM5k, can add a bit more if needed.

[Purpose] Gaming. Wish to upgrade to fhd 144hz soon. Maybe 4k in the future.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Still be using current monitor and peripherals.

[Monitor resolution] FHD60Hz for now, wish to upgrade soonish.

[Games & softwares that use frequently] AAA games (e.g Witcher 3, Rise of Tomb Raider, Fallout 4, FFXIV etc.)

[Personal preferences] intel cpu and nvidia gpu preferable.

[Location] Penang

Thanks in advance for your help. Cheers.
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Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1295
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 489
GSKill Aegis 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 338
Palit GTX1070 8GB GDDR5 Jetstream - RM 1999
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 349
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 219
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
NZXT S340 - RM 320

Total: RM 5418 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

You can remove the SSD or downgrade to 120GB SSD/8GB RAM one to reduce the total cost.

Case selection is very subjective, you can go with your own preferences, just have to make sure the components (especially mobo & GPU) are compatible.

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