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post Oct 30 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(game4life @ Oct 30 2016, 03:43 PM)
Hey guys, im planning to upgrade my gpu. Currently using gtx 760. Can recommend me some?
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What's your budget?

QUOTE(AweFace @ Oct 30 2016, 04:14 PM)
How much would I have to add if I wanted to use 5th gen processor?
Now is upgrade my house's desktop while saving for another mITX build.
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5th gen? Obsoleted and only the K (or C in 5th gen series) is available, Intel didn't release non-K 5th gen CPU to the market as the 6th gen is scheduled to arrive very shortly after it got released, go for 6th gen instead.

i3 CPU + cheapest H110 mobo + 8GB DDR4 RAM will cost around 1.1k, add ~RM 400 more for i5.
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post Oct 31 2016, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(game4life @ Oct 31 2016, 12:12 AM)
around 1k
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The best for that budget would be GTX1060 3GB or top up RM 200 more for 6GB variant (+10% more performance than the 3GB variant too).
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post Oct 31 2016, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 31 2016, 12:51 PM)
Budget: RM1.5k

Purpose: Casual gaming, movie download, illustrator (Steam games, assuming high quality?)

Hardwares that will be re-use Just recently changed PSU. HDD, DVD, casing will reuse.

Monitor resolution:1080p (Samsung 22.3inch)

Games & softwares that use frequently: Illustrator, latest games.

Current Rig
Leadtek GTX650Ti BOOST 2GD5 O.C
Intel E3-1230v3
Asrock B85M-HDS

Issue
- Everytime I play some high details or performance game, it will blackout and I need to force restart. Heroes of Newerth is fine, no idea why
- Takes time to load my system. Have plans on getting a SSD to run my system
- PC easily get attack by virus, need a good anti-virus system too
- Need at least 8 USB port on MOBO. More USB3.0 the better

Remark
- I consider this a major overhaul as my some part of the system lasted for almost 3-4 years already
- If budget exceed a little is fine but not too much as I don't really intend on spending that much. The lesser the better
- If parts can get cheaper from lazada or other websites, pls let me know too
- Have plans to change to another casing as CM690 is too bulky and space taking
- Should I go for high spec i3 or mid range i5? hmm.gif
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1.5k is not a healthy budget for a major rig overhaul, you either end up with handicapped CPU or GPU.

My advise is to keep the CPU, it is basically an i7 4770 with slightly lower clock speed and no iGPU (not important as you have dedicated GPU), go for a better GPU (GTX1060) and 240GB SSD.
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post Oct 31 2016, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 31 2016, 01:15 PM)
i7 proc, gtx1060 and 240 ssd?

But my rig can match these proc and gpu? hmm.gif worried the plug different.
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Well I stated your current CPU is basically an i7 4770 (with all the differences stated in previous sentence) so you don't have to upgrade the CPU (same goes to mobo and RAM unless RAM is not enough) GPU and SSD upgrade more suitable for your budget, a complete CPU platform upgrade would cost you another 1.5k (in average).

GPU uses PCIe to communicate/connect to the main board so this isn't a problem, same goes to SSD, any SATA based SSD will work just fine with your current mobo.
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post Oct 31 2016, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Oct 31 2016, 01:45 PM)
Oh okok. Sorry didn't understand your sentence earlier. tongue.gif How much do I need for an overhaul? hmm.gif
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Your current CPU is just ~15% behind of the latest Xeon E3 1230 V5, a complete CPU platform overhaul is not worth at all considering the amount you need to pay for in return for the extra little boost.

A complete CPU platform overhaul will cost you:

1. Around 2k (i7 + H170/B150 + 8GB RAM)
2. Around 1.5k (i5 + H170/B150 + 8GB RAM)

QUOTE(jujx @ Oct 31 2016, 01:47 PM)
[Budget] : As cheap as possible

[Purpose] Gaming, VR Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] : None

[Monitor resolution]: Not needed

[Personal preferences]: Gtx 1070 and 256 SSD, 16GB Ram

I want to know what will be the cheapest setup with the requirements as above?
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CPU - locked i5 (around RM 850) or locked i7 (around RM 1300, recommended)
Mobo - H110/B150 (around RM 350)
RAM - 16GB Value RAM (around RM 400)
GPU - GTX1070 (around RM 2000)
SSD - 240GB (around RM 300)
HDD - 1TB (around RM 200)
PSU - 500W+ (around RM 200)
Standard chassis - around RM 150

Total: RM 4900 (i7 is chosen)

A rough estimation on the total cost needed based on the lowest end/cheapest parts available in the market (since you mentioned "as cheap as possible").
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post Oct 31 2016, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(Viv3cK @ Oct 31 2016, 06:02 PM)
Budget: RM4.3K

Purpose:Latest Gaming and Movies

Hardwares that will be re-used : Nothing

Monitor resolution:1080p

Need suggestion badly. And anyone knows where to trade in old laptop? I have Lenovo Y580 in hand. High probability will trade in and get the gaming rig.
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No idea where you can trade in your laptop (at high price) but here is a suggestion build.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 865
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce - RM 1225
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 296
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Superflower Leadex Gold - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 199
BenQ GW2470H - RM 473
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 4324 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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post Nov 1 2016, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(92alvin @ Nov 1 2016, 01:09 PM)
Every time i play games (Dota2), it tend to blackout and i have to force restart the pc. But it worked fine for games like LoL and CSGO.

Is it GPU problem?

If yes, whats the best bang for buck GPU to upgrade. (Budget around 1k+)

Below are my current spec. Thank you.

Intel Core I5 3470
Asrock H77 Pro4/MVP
Gskill SNIPER 2x4GB DDR3 1600mhz
Enermax NAXN82+ 650W PSU
Leadtek GTX670 2GB DDR5
Plextor M5S 128GB SSD
WD 1TB Caviar Blue
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Your CPU and GPU are completely fine and good to run Dota 2, are you running the customized (or optimized) settings by Nvidia GeForce Experience app? If yes please restore it to default.

And if possible, please grab the latest driver and use DDU to clean install the GPU driver to wipe all the existing settings.
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post Nov 1 2016, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(92alvin @ Nov 1 2016, 03:03 PM)
Thanks for the advice.
I forgot to add, it blackout when i played other higher detailed graphic games as well. Like gta5, FC4, Witcher 3.
Anyhow, will try your way later. Thanks again smile.gif
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Alright, since you mentioned you have the similar problem when running other graphics demanding games then I suspect the root cause is the PSU, but you can test the driver sweeping method first.

Another question here, is there any background sound from the games when the screen goes black?


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post Nov 2 2016, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(nightglimmer96 @ Nov 1 2016, 06:38 PM)
[Budget]
RM3700. Max up to 4k.

[Purpose]
Gaming and multimedia

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
Monitor, keyboard and mouse

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Civilization 6, hearts of iron 4 and other AAA games occasionally.

[Personal preferences]
None

[Location]
Kuching
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 850
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 419
GSKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 199
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 1289
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 349
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 199
Sharkoon T3-W - RM 199

Total: RM 3713 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

You can opt for a better PSU and case if you wish to max out your budget.

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post Nov 2 2016, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Nov 1 2016, 07:16 PM)
Hi, need a suggestion for RM1500-RM1700 pc for editing and designing at clothing shop. Without monitor including dvd writer.
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What software do you use for editing/designing the clothes? If it uses GPU hardware as accelerator then I might include a capable GPU for it.
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post Nov 2 2016, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Nov 2 2016, 09:08 AM)
this build was for my friend haha. He said he gonna use photoshop CS6 and some other adobe software.
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The situation is a bit interesting here as fitting an i3 + a decent low end GPU (like GTX750 2GB) will cost slightly more than the available budget, if we "downgrade" the GPU to something like GT730 to keep within the budget, the iGPU of the i3 is technically faster than the GT730 which makes no sense to do this. So I opted for i5 build instead without any dedicated GPU.

Intel Core i5 6400 - RM 802
ASRock H110M-HDV - RM 245
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
CM Elite Power 350W - RM 126
Asus DVD-ROM SATA - RM 69
Armageddon Vulcan V1x - RM 75

Total: RM 1730 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(nightglimmer96 @ Nov 2 2016, 02:47 PM)
What PSU and case would you suggest if I want to max the budget?
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Updated build with better PSU and case.

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 850
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 419
GSKill Aegis 8GB DDR4 2133MHz RAM - RM 199
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1249
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 349
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 209
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
NZXT S340 - RM 320

Total: RM 4004 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)
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post Nov 2 2016, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(nightglimmer96 @ Nov 2 2016, 05:21 PM)
Which shops are the most trusted either in physical or online?
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You can look for ETech (Kepong), Techview (PJ SS2), DotaTech (Ampang), Idealtech (Pandan Indah) in Klang Valley area.

All of them have physical and online store too.
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post Nov 3 2016, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(absolut @ Nov 2 2016, 07:19 PM)
Hi Terence,

Time for me to upgrade as my HDD just died on me. Revisiting my requirements:

[Budget]
Not exceeding RM3k

[Purpose]
Gaming - medium intensive

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
CM690 case, monitor, input peripherals
PSU: Silverstone strider ST50-ES Link - do you think it's wise to re-use?

[Monitor resolution]
1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Looking at like BF1

[Personal preferences]
If possible:
Processor: i5 Skylake (do you think worth waiting for Kaby Lake?)
Graphics: GTX 1060 or RX480
Storage: 240GB SSD for boot/OS.
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PSU can reuse & there is a price hike recently which contributes to the increase of total cost needed. Kaby Lake will probably arrive in next 2 months or so.

Intel Core i5 6402P - RM 729
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Palit GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Dual - RM 1238
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 296
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215

Total: RM 3055 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

You can downgrade to lowest end H110 mobo to keep below 3k.
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QUOTE(Ureshige @ Nov 2 2016, 07:40 PM)
[B][Budget] RM3k~3.5k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Peripherals and a used casing

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Dying Light, GTA V, Fallout 4, Skyrim

[Personal preferences]Sapphire Nitro RX480 8GB and i5 Skylake
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Hmm is monitor included in your peripherals (hardware to reuse list)?

This build list doesn't include monitor and I assume your case can fit all the components listed below (since the model is not listed by you).

Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 862
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 198
Sapphire RX480 8GB GDDR5 Nitro+ OC - RM 1309
Kingston SSDNow UV400 120GB SSD - RM 190
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339

Total: RM 3492 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(DesktopLimousine @ Nov 3 2016, 03:53 PM)
How about If my friend takes a notebook which offers i5 and 920m gpu? Is it worth?
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Which i5? There are few mobile i5 variants, some are U version which comes with low clock speed for power saving, some are dual core based like desktop i3 etc.

QUOTE(SnoopyDevil @ Nov 3 2016, 09:40 PM)
[B][Budget] <4k

[Purpose] gaming and movie

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Dell U2312HM, Edifier M1360

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Fallout series, COD series, BF series, SCII, Overwatch, chinese games, tomb raider, Doom

[Personal preferences] won't be doing any OC and like to keep the cpu cool

[Location] PJ

Optional: a value for money 2.1 speaker set and mouse/keyboard combo, does not necessary gaming standard
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 861
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 378
Kingston 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 209
Gigabyte GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 Windforce OC - RM 1270
Kingston SSDNow UV400 240GB SSD - RM 309
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 225
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 219
Logitech MK200 Wired Combo - RM 65

Total: RM 3945 (Techview price inclusive of GST)

Couldn't find any speaker in Techview's lelong store, you might have to ask them yourself (if you are getting from them) or buy it somewhere else.
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QUOTE(liau240 @ Nov 3 2016, 10:57 PM)
Hi, Can quote me price for below Pc rig.

I7 6850k
Corsair H115I / NZXT kraken X61
Rampage V edition 10
G.Skill trident Z 3200mhz 4x16Gb (64gb)
Strix 1080 OC x2 SLI
Graphite 780T White
Any PSU 1000w platinum
950 pro nvme 256gb
850 evo 1 TB
WD blue 3 TB
Asus ROG Front base
Windows 10 x64 Pro
NZXT Hue+ RGB
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Intel Core i7 6850K - RM 2650
Corsair H115i - RM 585
Asus Rampage V Edition 10 - RM 2733
GSKill Trident Z 64GB (16GB x 4) DDR4 3200MHz RAM - RM 2798
Asus GTX1080 8GB GDDR5 Strix OC - RM 7398
Corsair Graphite 780T White - RM 945
Seasonic P1050 - RM 1249
Samsung 950 Pro 256GB NVMe M.2 - RM 899
Samsung 850 EVO 1TB SSD - RM 1699
WD Blue 3TB HDD - RM 429
Asus ROG Front Base - RM 339
Windows 10 Pro - RM 249
NZXT Hue+ RGB - RM 285

Total: RM 22258 (Idealtech price inclusive of GST)

Price might differ due to bundles/promotion.

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QUOTE(iskandarnazreen @ Nov 4 2016, 04:51 AM)
[Budget] RM3k

[Purpose] Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Peripherals

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Games & softwares that use frequently] FIFA , DOTA

[Personal preferences] ultra settings for fifa in FHD , nvidia gpu
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Peripherals to reuse don't include monitor right?
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QUOTE(cloudlionheart @ Nov 4 2016, 11:26 AM)
Hello, have been using ASUS ROG for 6 years, planning to switch to a desktop now

[Budget] enough to handle my purpose below

[Purpose] Video editing, not really heavy editing but prefer a rig that can handle 4k videos (Gopro recordings)
Movies
Gaming: Dota 2, pretty much just this game

[Hardwares that will be re-use] keyboard and mouse tongue.gif

[Monitor resolution] 2k or 4k

[Games & softwares that use frequently] DOTA2, various video editing software

[Personal preferences] Ultra settings for Dota2, 1tb hdd
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Since no specific budget is mentioned so I will just go with whatever suitable.

Intel Core i7 6700 - RM 1330
Gigabyte H170-HD3 (D4) - RM 446
Kingston 16GB (8GB x 2) DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 430
Zotac GTX1050Ti 4GB GDDR5 Mini- RM 729
Samsung 750 EVO 250GB SSD - RM 315
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Superflower Leadex Gold 550W - RM 409
Tecware Alpha - RM 229
Dell S2817Q UHD - RM 1979

Total: RM 6082 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(cloudlionheart @ Nov 4 2016, 03:02 PM)
Looks good, thank you.

I've edited my budget to "as low as it can get for my purpose", is this setup the minimal requirement or a bit higher than required?
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This is somehow categorized as "optimum" (not higher or lower), if you plan to reduce the total cost, you can do the following:

1. Downgrade to i5.
2. Downgrade to 8GB RAM.
3. Get a 1440p monitor instead of 4K UHD.
4. Get a cheaper PSU/mobo.

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