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post Nov 9 2016, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 9 2016, 09:39 PM)
Curious where does the RX 480 slots in between RX 470, 1060 3GB, 1060 6GB for best peformance to price ratio?
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I would sort the list like this though: RX470, 1060 3GB, 1060 6GB, RX 480, for Price-Performance.

Reason: RX 480 is a little cheaper than 1060 but outperforms its rival at latest AAA titles in slight to moderate margin, while 1060 outperforms 480 at OpenGL/DirectX 11. 1060 3GB outperforms RX 470 completely while it is just a little bit expensive than the 470. After paying 100-200 more bucks than 1060 3GB you should be able to get either RX480 or 1060 6GB, so yeah that's my prediction for the list.

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post Nov 10 2016, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 9 2016, 09:10 PM)
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 862
Gigabyte B150-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 215
MSI GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 OC - RM 1129
<SSD re-use>
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
<PSU re-use>
Tecware Alpha - RM 219

Total: RM 3019 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

SSD can re-use unless your wife is craving for more speedy storage space, same goes to HDD, but you didn't mention any HDD to re-use so I included one in the build list, if it is not needed, then you can use the extra money to buy a fancy chassis like:

Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tampered Glass - RM 449
NZXT S340 Tampered Glass - RM 449
Thanks for the tip! Especially the casings... those are real nice, will probably grab the Phanteks.

Though I notice the i5-6500 isnt too much an improvement over my current i5-2500 (like 10%) hmm.gif
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel...2500/3512vsm517
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post Nov 10 2016, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 7 2016, 10:50 PM)
RAM is a bit hard to guarantee it will work in all configurations, even with same brand and same model (but different batch  rolleyes.gif ), the best would be picking up a 8GB DDR3 RAM and then slot in directly, see if the system accepts the new RAM or not, if it doesn't then you have to take "trial-and-error" method, it might end up just the new 8GB RAM in effect where system ignores or rejects the old RAM to be paired with the new RAM, but yea this is the worst case scenario but you still get an upgrade from 4GB to 8GB. If everything goes well then you will get 12GB in total, the dual channel model (2GB x 2) will be invalidated/deactivated though, this will affect the performance but just a little which is very hard to notice in real life usage.

OS could take up to 30GB, if you plan to store games/files in SSD for faster I/O access then please go for 240GB, else 120GB is enough. 240GB is more worth, just like PSU, adding like ~RM 100 and you will get double of the size of 120GB.
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just to update you, changed my PSU and pc is working again..

also managed to add kingston 8gb ddr3 ram, so now i have 12gb total.

SSD will be another day.

thanks for the psu suggestion smile.gif
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post Nov 10 2016, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 9 2016, 11:20 PM)
Depends on the price and the model you are going to get, but in general consensus, GTX1060 3GB holds the best ratio currently, can be bought under RM 950, RX470 both 4GB and 8GB just don't feel right with its pricing in Malaysia, GTX1060 3GB is a better pick than it.

If you really want to have a best price/performance ratio 'ranking' then it would be (in Malaysia only, might change in the future):

1. GTX1060 3GB
2. GTX1060 6GB
3. RX480 4GB/8GB
4. RX470 4GB/8GB
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Interesting, I take that the 470 price cut have yet to reach Malaysia?
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post Nov 10 2016, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 10 2016, 02:29 AM)
Thanks for the tip! Especially the casings... those are real nice, will probably grab the Phanteks.

Though I notice the i5-6500 isnt too much an improvement over my current i5-2500 (like 10%)  hmm.gif 
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel...2500/3512vsm517
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That's the unfortunate case, AMD is slacking too far behind, leaving Intel in the lead so they only pump in some performance improvements over each generation doh.gif

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Nov 10 2016, 07:56 AM)
Interesting, I take that the 470 price cut have yet to reach Malaysia?
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Price cut rarely happens in Malaysia, our local retailers normally don't follow the price cut unless it is enforced by local distributor/origin.

I still can see Sapphire Nitro+ RX470 8GB new stock priced at 1.2k sweat.gif
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post Nov 10 2016, 10:52 AM

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[Budget] MYR2500

[Purpose] SC2,D3 occasionally BF. Need a decent gaming desktop setup minus the GPU. Will reuse my current 960.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] GPU. Plan to upgrade to 1070 in the future

[Monitor resolution] 21

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ACAD, Photoshop

[Personal preferences] not planning to overclock. so a Basic mobo would do. prefer at least i5 6400
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post Nov 10 2016, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(blur_goofy @ Nov 10 2016, 10:52 AM)
[Budget] MYR2500

[Purpose] SC2,D3 occasionally BF. Need a decent gaming desktop setup minus the GPU. Will reuse my current 960.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] GPU. Plan to upgrade to 1070 in the future

[Monitor resolution] 21

[Games & softwares that use frequently] ACAD, Photoshop

[Personal preferences] not planning to overclock. so a Basic mobo would do. prefer at least i5 6400
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How about HDD/SSD/PSU? Any of them can be reuse from your current rig/setup?
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 10 2016, 11:47 AM)
How about HDD/SSD/PSU? Any of them can be reuse from your current rig/setup?
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giving away the desktop, only salvage the GPU so that i could still game sweat.gif

This post has been edited by blur_goofy: Nov 10 2016, 02:18 PM
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post Nov 10 2016, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(blur_goofy @ Nov 10 2016, 02:12 PM)
giving away the desktop, only salvage the GPU so that i could still game  sweat.gif
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Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 862
Gigabyte B150M-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 215
Kingston SSDNOw UV400 240GB SSD - RM 296
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
Superflower Leadex Silver 550W - RM 339
Segotep Gank II - RM 179

Total: RM 2485 (ETech price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 10 2016, 02:38 PM)
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 215
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wow, value ram sudah naik harga? sad.gif
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post Nov 10 2016, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(woque @ Nov 10 2016, 03:24 PM)
wow, value ram sudah naik harga? sad.gif
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Yes, price hike since few weeks ago sweat.gif
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Guys, need a mobo replacement, already dead and out of warranty.

i7 4770k
Asrock Z87 Extreme

Anything in the same color code ? (Black and white ?)

Thanks in advance.

*Edited, added, full pc specs.

i7 4770k
Asrock Z87 Extreme 6
Gskill SNIPER 2x8GB DDR3 1866mhz
PH-TC14PE Black
120GB Crucial M500 SSD
2TB WD Red HDD
Zotac GTX780 3GB DDR5
Carbide Air 540
LG DVD RW 24x
Rosewill Hive 750M Bronze Modular

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post Nov 10 2016, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 9 2016, 09:10 PM)
Intel Core i5 6500 - RM 862
Gigabyte B150-D3H (D4) - RM 379
Corsair 8GB DDR4 2133MHz Value RAM - RM 215
MSI GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 OC - RM 1129
<SSD re-use>
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 215
<PSU re-use>
Tecware Alpha - RM 219

Total: RM 3019 (ETech price inclusive of GST)

SSD can re-use unless your wife is craving for more speedy storage space, same goes to HDD, but you didn't mention any HDD to re-use so I included one in the build list, if it is not needed, then you can use the extra money to buy a fancy chassis like:

Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Tampered Glass - RM 449
NZXT S340 Tampered Glass - RM 449
After poking around some stuff myself... I migth wanna go for the following..

Skylake i5-6600 (about 23% improvement over my current instead of 14% for 6500) - RM952
MSI GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 OC - RM 1129
MSI B150 Gaming M3 - RM552 (is this a good idea?, any improvement over the Gigabyte?)
Casing : Fractal Define R5 - RM469 (the PC will be in our bedroom..)
PSU : BE QUIET! STRAIGHT POWER 10 600W CM 80 PLUS GOLD - RM497

haiz.. as always cannot keep to budget... sweat.gif

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post Nov 10 2016, 07:13 PM

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[Budget] <RM3k

[Purpose] Gaming, movies, occasional graphics work

[Hardwares that will be re-use] No

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently] Game - Witcher, The Forest, Skyrim etc, Others - Sketchup, Gimp

[Personal preferences] Rig only no need monitor and peripherals

Are the suggested parts compatible or require trial and error in building? Preferably no tinkering, noob here.

Also, I have an unused Win 7 oem license. Can I install on the new rig myself?

If custom build need a lot of trial and error, I might consider the pre-built Dell ones albeit shitty and less value for money. Thoughts?

Inspiron
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5 Processor
8GB Memory
1TB Hard Drive
1TB Hard Drive
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 730 2GB GDDR3.

Alienware Aurora
Intel® Core i3 Processor
8GB memory
1TB hard drive
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 950 with 2GB GDDR5.


P/s current custom rig failed to load. Casing light is on but not booting up. No idea if hdd or psu failure. 6 yr rig, psu changed 2 yrs ago (Hexa 550 if not mistaken).
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 10 2016, 05:37 PM)
After poking around some stuff myself... I migth wanna go for the following..

Skylake i5-6600 (about 23% improvement over my current instead of 14% for 6500) - RM952
MSI GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 OC - RM 1129
MSI B150 Gaming M3 - RM552 (is this a good idea?, any improvement over the Gigabyte?)
Casing : Fractal Define R5 - RM469 (the PC will be in our bedroom..)
PSU : BE QUIET! STRAIGHT POWER 10 600W CM 80 PLUS GOLD - RM497

haiz.. as always cannot keep to budget... sweat.gif
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woah, that motherboard sure is overpriced for a B150 mobo. Just get a normal B150 is sufficient sweat.gif
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post Nov 10 2016, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Woods of Ypres @ Nov 10 2016, 08:13 PM)
[Budget] <RM3k

[Purpose] Gaming, movies, occasional graphics work

[Hardwares that will be re-use] No

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]  Game - Witcher, The Forest, Skyrim etc, Others - Sketchup, Gimp

[Personal preferences] Rig only no need monitor and peripherals

Are the suggested parts compatible or require trial and error in building? Preferably no tinkering, noob here.

Also, I have an unused Win 7 oem license. Can I install on the new rig myself?

If custom build need a lot of trial and error, I might consider the pre-built Dell ones albeit shitty and less value for money. Thoughts?

Inspiron
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5 Processor
8GB Memory
1TB Hard Drive
1TB Hard Drive
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 730 2GB GDDR3.

Alienware Aurora
Intel® Core i3 Processor
8GB memory
1TB hard drive
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 950 with 2GB GDDR5.
P/s current custom rig failed to load. Casing light is on but not booting up. No idea if hdd or psu failure. 6 yr rig, psu changed 2 yrs ago (Hexa 550 if not mistaken).
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Go for a custom build rig. Wont be much of a trial and error process. My first time went well i can tell. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 8 2016, 02:23 PM)
The orange light is actually a light from your chassis right? If yes then it means your system is reading/writing to the disk drives, this is normal and is an indicator for us to know the PC is actually doing something that is I/O related. If the light is from the mobo (or on the mobo) itself then that's another story.

Your setup is ok for FIFA (FIFA 17 as well) so I don't see any need to upgrade the mobo and GPU for now, adding a SSD would help a lot especially OS booting time and app loading speed.
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Erm But I've googled stated that orange light is MOBO? hmm.gif Anyway forget it... Any SSD recommend? Thanks! smile.gif
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QUOTE(Raiko @ Nov 10 2016, 05:00 PM)
Guys, need a mobo replacement, already dead and out of warranty.

i7 4770k
Asrock Z87 Extreme

Anything in the same color code ? (Black and white ?)

Thanks in advance.

*Edited, added, full pc specs.

i7 4770k
Asrock Z87 Extreme 6
Gskill SNIPER 2x8GB DDR3 1866mhz
PH-TC14PE Black
120GB Crucial M500 SSD
2TB WD Red HDD
Zotac GTX780 3GB DDR5
Carbide Air 540
LG DVD RW 24x
Rosewill Hive 750M Bronze Modular
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CPU socket is LGA1150, it is already obsoleted (being replaced by LGA1151), so it is quite hard to find any new Z87/Z97 mobo in the market.

For black and white Z87/Z97 mobo, you can look for MSI Z97S Krait, you may have a hard time to find it, anyway good luck biggrin.gif

QUOTE(MeToo @ Nov 10 2016, 05:37 PM)
After poking around some stuff myself... I migth wanna go for the following..

Skylake i5-6600 (about 23% improvement over my current instead of 14% for 6500) - RM952
MSI GTX1060 6GB GDDR5 OC - RM 1129
MSI B150 Gaming M3 - RM552 (is this a good idea?, any improvement over the Gigabyte?)
Casing : Fractal Define R5 - RM469 (the PC will be in our bedroom..)
PSU : BE QUIET! STRAIGHT POWER 10 600W CM 80 PLUS GOLD - RM497

haiz.. as always cannot keep to budget... sweat.gif
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CPU: 6500 holds the best price/performance ratio among all the Skylake i5, 6600 no doubt will bring more performance but does it worth? Benchmark is benchmark and usually doesn't apply to most of our real life application or usage. (You can still go for 6600 if you wish)

Mobo: Full size ATX mobo, a little bit overpriced due to B150 chipset being RM 550+, this price should get you a pretty decent H170 or entry level Z170 already, the "gaming" tag and the nice design bumped up the price sweat.gif (Sometimes aesthetic is priceless laugh.gif )

Chassis: Up to your personal preferences.

PSU: Straight Power 10 is a 2nd tier PSU, you might want to take a look at Superflower Leadex Gold instead, slightly cheaper and it is under 1st tier.
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QUOTE(Woods of Ypres @ Nov 10 2016, 07:13 PM)
[Budget] <RM3k

[Purpose] Gaming, movies, occasional graphics work

[Hardwares that will be re-use] No

[Monitor resolution] 1920 x 1080

[Games & softwares that use frequently]  Game - Witcher, The Forest, Skyrim etc, Others - Sketchup, Gimp

[Personal preferences] Rig only no need monitor and peripherals

Are the suggested parts compatible or require trial and error in building? Preferably no tinkering, noob here.

Also, I have an unused Win 7 oem license. Can I install on the new rig myself?

If custom build need a lot of trial and error, I might consider the pre-built Dell ones albeit shitty and less value for money. Thoughts?

Inspiron
6th Generation Intel® Core™ i5 Processor
8GB Memory
1TB Hard Drive
1TB Hard Drive
NVIDIA® GeForce™ 730 2GB GDDR3.

Alienware Aurora
Intel® Core i3 Processor
8GB memory
1TB hard drive
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 950 with 2GB GDDR5.
P/s current custom rig failed to load. Casing light is on but not booting up. No idea if hdd or psu failure. 6 yr rig, psu changed 2 yrs ago (Hexa 550 if not mistaken).
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Usually no trial and error is needed, but improper installation of hardware like RAM doesn't get seated properly may need some troubleshooting initially, but those are quite easy to solve, most of the mobo nowadays come with hardware failure troubleshooting code/LED so you don't really need to tinker around to find out what's the problem when PC is not booting. Can you get into BIOS with your current problematic rig?

Your budget can get you a Skylake i5 + GTX1060 already, those pre-built OEM PC are just doing daylight robbery with their low end specs doh.gif

QUOTE(rickk @ Nov 11 2016, 01:55 AM)
Erm But I've googled stated that orange light is MOBO? hmm.gif Anyway forget it... Any SSD recommend? Thanks! smile.gif
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Kingston UV400/Samsung 750 EVO should do the trick for fast and speedy storage disk, if you are looking for a more premium one, you can consider Samsung 850 EVO.
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post Nov 11 2016, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(terence_nwb @ Nov 11 2016, 08:46 AM)
CPU: 6500 holds the best price/performance ratio among all the Skylake i5, 6600 no doubt will bring more performance but does it worth? Benchmark is benchmark and usually doesn't apply to most of our real life application or usage. (You can still go for 6600 if you wish)

Mobo: Full size ATX mobo, a little bit overpriced due to B150 chipset being RM 550+, this price should get you a pretty decent H170 or entry level Z170 already, the "gaming" tag and the nice design bumped up the price  sweat.gif  (Sometimes aesthetic is priceless  laugh.gif )

Chassis: Up to your personal preferences.

PSU: Straight Power 10 is a 2nd tier PSU, you might want to take a look at Superflower Leadex Gold instead, slightly cheaper and it is under 1st tier.
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As always, thank you for your thoughts thumbsup.gif

CPU : I canont bring myself to buy 6500 when the benchmark show so little imporvement over my current... so die die must see 20%+ improvement.. the price diff like 1.5 jug of beer la tongue.gif

Mobo : Good point on H170, I wont go Z170 cause I dont see myself overclocking or SLI. How about Gibabyte GA-H170-D3HP @ RM516? As for looking good... the casing doesnt have a see thru window... so is syiok sendiri saja hahaha

PSU : Hmmm didnt realise Straight Power 10 is 2nd tier, it was getting pretty decent reviews... i was going for a silent PSU.. cause those things really does contribute a lot of the noise coming from the PC.. will go back drawing board

Edit : Read there are some issues with SuperPower Leadex low hold up time? Maybe its model specific..

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