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post Aug 18 2022, 03:28 PM

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well, took me years but, i finally found out we have our very own LYN running gang here, yay me! laugh.gif

Did anyone go for the KL Towerthon last Sunday? They changed it up quite a bit compared to the previous years, starting point was right at the Tower itself this round rclxm9.gif
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post Sep 23 2022, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(GripRunner @ Sep 18 2022, 10:43 PM)
How's the crowd control at the top of tower after the race? Joined the event many years back. took more than 30min to wait for the lift together with tons of sweaty participants, not a pleasant experience rclxub.gif
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More or less the same laugh.gif Just the starting point changed this round.
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post Sep 26 2022, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Sep 26 2022, 12:44 AM)
Guys I missed my deferral from 2020 SCKLM I think the deadline was back in June. Is there any hope to still join this year's SCKLM? I've already mailed helpdesk with the request just wondering if any of you guys managed to register past the deadline and how. Thanks!
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iinm this year's SCKLM already tutup quite some time back.

yesterday's L'Occitane run, really nice weather if you don't mind the slight rain - very cooling morning run, the terrain a little hazardous due to the rain tho, saw people slip/fell on more than one occasion (speedy recovery!) smile.gif
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post Sep 26 2022, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Shadow Kun @ Sep 26 2022, 01:50 PM)
I just got a reply from their help team and was asked to answer a few questions to update my participation. Hopefully it goes through!

*aaand it does!
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Nice!! rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 3 2022, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 3 2022, 02:42 PM)
Guys wanna ask you all ah, when you all started running, do you experience any knee pains?

Right now I’m starting to run/sprint on treadmill. Initially my knee hurts/sore after exercises but these days the pain/discomfort no longer last until the next day. I take it that my legs are getting used to the impact as well.

Right now I’m kinda addicted to running, slow jog or whatever. But I’m afraid of doing it everyday (30 minutes is all I can squeeze in) cause I don’t want to have long term effects on my knees. I mean exercising is supposed to make me strong but I don’t wanna hurt my knees.

So do you all run everyday? Will your knees just get strong and stronger?
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Only run on weekends, and yes - at the very beginning of the running journey - it's quite common for the legs to get a little sore, dormant muscles being activated afterall laugh.gif
Your body will adapt as you progress, my 2 cents is to have sufficient rest in between runs icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Oct 20 2022, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(miyakochan89 @ Oct 20 2022, 11:06 AM)
Hey all, is it normal to become so hungry all the time after I started running??? Been running for a month, about 4 days per week.

I wanna lose weight and be toned ler. Not to be hungry all the time. Like usually I take toast for breakfast and it’s enough to last me the day, but within 3 hours, my tummy is making insane noises.
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New Achievement Unlocked : Metabolism Booooost! laugh.gif
I run in the mornings and have breakfast (typical hawker / mamak fare) after the run - so i rarely get the kili-kulu tummy rumble laugh.gif

But I do get it during the evenings before bed, after a quick round of HIIT - damn good for sleep laugh.gif
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post Nov 2 2022, 10:40 AM

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any running kaki here going for the DSH-Penchala Run?
I initially hesitated because they didn't announce if we would be running with live-traffic or if they would close the highway for the run.

Had to reach Litrak on FB to get my answer : THE HIGHWAY WILL BE CLOSED-OFF FROM ANY TRAFFIC during the run (except the ambulance and other emergency services on standby) rclxm9.gif


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post Dec 27 2022, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(mothangel @ Dec 27 2022, 02:26 PM)
Im looking for watch to track my running. Amazfit fits my budget for those <300 range but there's so many model around im clueless of what's what. Can recommend thanks
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tbh, if you run with your phone - a running app should do laugh.gif am using MapMyRun by UnderArmour to track my walks and runs icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 4 2023, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(kingofrave89 @ Jan 3 2023, 01:26 PM)
hi guys, is there any place to see the running event for the year 2023?
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There is no particular fixed "place" for a comprehensive event calendar. My regular go-to are (you can click on'em, they are linked to their respective sites) :

Race X Asia

CheckpointSpot

Just Run Lah

I have these apps too - they lean towards on Virtual Run (run at your own leisure) but also do have regular running events now and then:

JomRun

Hey Jom


And then you get odd balls (or newer platforms) like:
Get Biib / Biib+ App

Ticksweats

Good luck! thumbsup.gif

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post Jan 4 2023, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(emefbiemef @ Jan 4 2023, 05:16 PM)
ohya ! Pacemakers!! laugh.gif Nice one, thanks thumbsup.gif


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post Jan 11 2023, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Alvan86 @ Jan 10 2023, 05:01 PM)
Hello, lately started out running, and now able to run btw 3-4km instead of initial just 1-2km. But I find it kinda hard to run beyond 5km mark. How should I train myself?
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Slow and steady does it.
What do you mean by "hard" tho, is it your mind or body?
I used to hate running laugh.gif
Then came a moment I realized, with each run I ran, I did better than the last - so I kept running, and running - I enjoyed beating my own timing at my own pace laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2023, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Kennchew @ Mar 6 2023, 09:26 PM)
Just finished my first half marathon yesterday was able to maintain a steady pace till that last 6km bukit tunku route wrecked me real hard. Legs just gave up. No choice but to walk all the way till the finish line but still managed to finish before the cutoff time. Feel kinda disappointed with myself as I have been training really hard during these past 3 months not the result I was expecting for sad.gif
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it happens, now is to rest and recuperate flex.gif and job well done for completing the run thumbsup.gif
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post Sep 13 2023, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(potatobanana @ Sep 12 2023, 09:16 PM)
Hey guys,

Recently I do some running with smart watches for tracking purpose (with GPS).

I noticed my hand wrist feels tingling sensation whenever I enable the tracking.
Anyone feel the same as well and how to alleviate it?
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only for that one particular arm or did you try switching the watch to another arm to see if there's similar effects? hmm.gif
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post Jun 30 2024, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Jun 30 2024, 06:16 AM)
I did shorts last year and this year did classic

Strategy is a diff topic but my advise is pls do more brick training. U can start 5k run, 40k ride and 2k run

The transition is really a calf killer unless you got tt bike then it’s diff story

I cramped on the third transition and lucky they have someone to spray some muscle relaxer and manage to finish it
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this years' KL Duathlon is going to be something similar - 5KM run > 20KM Ride > 2.5KM run
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post Jun 30 2024, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Roadwarrior1337 @ Jun 30 2024, 12:54 PM)
Well this distance is manageable. They reduced the 2nd run which is good move for those that want to start doing dualathon

Seriously if first time really need to do brick training to train your legs. Cycling and running use different muscle group and unfortunately if no training done, the muscle group used for cycling is gonna scream first 1 to 2km of the ride and slowly taper off. Once u get to the 2nd run, your calf is gonna scream

But 2.5km is manageable
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yeah, that KL duathlon is gonna be my first one - have only ever done runs or rides on it's own, first time doing both in 1-go - thanks for the tips! notworthy.gif
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very quiet during this fasting month, selamat ramadan muslim runners! thumbsup.gif

* Last update on 04/03/25 by PM1

NOV 2025
23 Nov - Larian Jambatan Sultan Nazrin Shah (Tapak Pasar Malam Bagan Datuk, Perak)
02 Nov - Sekinchan Ultra (SRJK © Yoke Kuan Sekinchan, Selangor)

OCT 2025
26 Oct - Ipoh City Half Marathon (Greentown, Ipoh, Perak)
25 Oct - Angsi Forest Challenge (Tmn Eko Rimba Ulu Bendul, Kuala Pilah, N.Sembilan)
24 Oct - Taman Negara Ultra (Taman Negara Kuala Tahan, Jerantut, Pahang)

19 Oct - HSNKL (Dataran Merdeka, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
19 Oct - Kokol Ultra (Padang Manggatal, Kota Kinabalu, Sabah)

05 Oct - Tanah Puteh Run (MBKS, Kuching, Sarawak)

SEP 2025
28 Sep - FIT Malaysia Half Marathon (Dataran DBKL, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
28 Sep - Sembilan Half Marathon (Padang MPS, Seremban)
21 Sep - Rotikaya Selebriti Half Marathon (Dataran Wawasan, Putrajaya)
20 Sep - SP Half Marathon (Dataran Sungai Petani, Kedah)
13 Sep - Muallim Ultra (Institut Tanah Dan Ukur Negara, Tanjong Malim, Perak)
13 Sep - Melaka Bukit Beruang Ultra Challenge (Bukit Beruang Trail, Melaka)
06 Sep - Tunggul Melati Trail (University College Aviation M'sia, Jenderam Hilir, Selangor)
06 Sep - Pahang Ultra (Dewan Imam Perang K. Sanggang, Temeloh, Pahang)

AUG 2025
30 Aug - Central Square Merdeka Night Fun Run & Walk (Central Squarre, Sg. Petani, Kedah)

24 Aug - Merdeka Half Marathon (Padang Merbok, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
24 Aug - The 26th Songkhla Marathon (Tinsulanonda Stadium, Songkhla, Thailand)

17 Aug - PJ Half Marathon (Laman MBPJ, Petaling Jaya, Selangor) ⭐⭐⭐
17 Aug - Kota Kinabalu City Half Marathon (Tapak Dataran, Kompleks Sukan, Sabah)
16 Aug - Alor Setar Merdeka Half Marathon (Pekan Rabu Alor Setar, Kedah)
16 Aug - ASEAN Cultural Night Run (Sultan Abdul Halim Mu'adzam Shah, 2nd Penang Bridge)
15 Aug - The Magnificent Baling 100 (Baling, Kedah) ⭐⭐⭐

10 Aug - Red Kaler Fun Run (Dataran Kemerdekaan Shah Alam)
09 Aug - Sireh Park Ultra Challenge (Sireh Park, Iskandar Puteri, Johor Bharu)

03 Aug - IJM Duo Highway Challenge (NPE Highway, Sunway) ⭐⭐⭐
03 Aug - Bintulu Marathon (Bintulu Old Airport, Sarawak)
02 Aug - Pahang Eco (Teluk Cempedak, Kuantan, Pahang)
02 Aug - Monopoly Run (City of Elmina, Shah Alam, Selangor)
01 Aug - Mount Ophir Trail (Taman Negara Ledang Lagenda, Sagil, Johor)

JUL 2025
27 Jul - Taiping Half Marathon (Dataran Warisan, Taiping, Perak)
27 Jul - Kuching Half Marathon (Majlis Bandaraya Kuching Selatan, Kuching, Swak)
27 Jul - Muallim Cross Country Run (Ujana Muallim, Tanjong Malim, Perak)
26 Jul - Langkawi International Duathlon (Tanjung Rhu Beach, Kedah)

20 Jul - JAWI Half Marathon (Dataran Wawasan, Putrajaya) ⭐⭐⭐
20 Jul - Crayon ShinChan Run (Kepong Metropolitan Park, Kuala Lumpur)
19 Jul - BTP Power Run : Run For The Future (Bandar Tasik Puteri)
19 Jul - Cameron Ultra (Tanah Rata, Cameron Highlands, Pahang) ⭐⭐⭐

13 Jul - SCORE Marathon by AIA Vitality (Putrajaya) ⭐⭐⭐
13 Jul - Sulaman Ultra (Tuaran Futsal Arena, Tuaran, Sabah, Sabah)
13 Jul - Grey Kaler Fun Run (Dataran Kemerdekaan Shah Alam)
11 Jul - Aquaman Open Water Swimming Malaysia (Tioman Island, Pahang)

06 Jul - Hatyai 21 (ICC Hatyai, Thailand) ⭐⭐⭐
06 Jul - Durirun Balik Pulau Half Marathon (Kompleks Sukan Balik Pulau, Penang)
06 Jul - Ipoh Half Marathon (Padang Polo, Ipoh, Perak) TBC*
05 Jul - Geopark Gunung Nuang Ultra (Gunung Nuang Recreation Forest, Selangor)
05 Jul - Ecotrail Putrajaya (Anjung Floria, Putrajaya)
05 Jul - Kulim Techno Run (Kulim Hi-Tech Park Sports Complex, Kedah)

JUN 2025
29 Jun - Redbull Half Marathon (Padang Merbok, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
29 Jun - Penang Half Marathon (Batu Kawan Stadium, Seberang Perai, Penang)
29 Jun - Negeri Sembilan Marathon (Padang MPS, Seremban)
29 Jun - Snoopy Run (Kepong Metropolitan Park, Kuala Lumpur)
29 Jun - Matang Warrior 21km Trail Run (Sek Menengah Kebangsaan Sri Matang, Sarawak)
28 Jun - Run With Penyu 5.0 (Dataran Canselorm Universiti Malaysia, Terengganu)

22 Jun - Run To Save Lives 5.0 (MBKS Foyer, Sarawak)
22 Jun - CODE LIFE Kidney Rush! (IOI City Mall, Putrajaya)
21 Jun - Langkawi International Ultra Run (ataran Lang, Langkawi Island, Kedah)
20 Jun - Trail des Gombak (Dewan Serbaguna JAKOA Bt 12, Gombak)

15 Jun - Kuala Lumpur 10K Race (Padang Merbok, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
15 Jun - Petaling Jaya 10K - PJ10K (Petaling Jaya, Selangor) ⭐⭐⭐
15 Jun - King Of Kemensah Trail 15km/10km/5km (Kemensah Selangor)
15 Jun - Perak Multisport Festival, Perak Duathlon (Marina Island Pangkor, Lumut, Perak)
15 Jun - Rock to Rock Run (Hard Rock Hotel Penang)
15 Jun - Green Kaler Fun Run (Dataran Kemerdekaan Shah Alam)
14 Jun - Perak Multisport Festival, Perak Triathlon (Marina Island Pangkor, Lumut, Perak)
14 Jun - King Of Kemensah Trail 50km/30km/18km (Kemensah Selangor)
14 Jun - HSL Samarahan Marathon (HSL La Promenade Mall, Samarahan, Kuching, Sarawak)
14 Jun - ECO Sintok Trail (Universiti Utara Malaysia Sintok, Bukit Kayu Hitam, Kedah)
14 Jun - Selangor Half Marathon (Selangor)

08 Jun - SOPMA Baton Run (Kuching, Sarawak)
08 Jun - Quby Dragon Boat Festival Run (Taman Tasik Titiwangsa, Kuala Lumpur)

01 Jun - KL Borneo Half Marathon (Dataran Merdeka, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
01 Jun - Fairy Park Mini Marathon (Persiaran Setia Gemilang, Shah Alam, Selangor)
01 Jun - Kuala Kangsar Half Marathon (Dataran Pavilion Kuala Kangsar, Perak)
01 Jun - Kunak Half Marathon (Padang Pekan Kunak, Sabah)

MAY 2025
31 May - MMC Friendship Half Marathon (Forest City, Johor)
30 May - Hulu Selangor Adventure Challenge (Taman Tasik Milenium, Selangor)
30 May - Hulu Selangor Ultra Trail (Taman Tasik Milenium, Selangor)
30 May - KAILAS Tioman Ultra (TU50) (Nazri 1, Air Batang, Tioman, Rompin, Pahang)

25 May - Hatyai Marathon (Jiranakorn Stadium, Thailand) ⭐⭐⭐
25 May - Tanjung Tuan Trail Run (Taman Eko Rimba Tanjung Tuan, Melaka)
25 May - Dr KO Konfident Family Fun Run (Eco Ardence Setia Alam, Selangor)
25 May - SOPMA Baton Run (Sibu, Sarawak)
25 May - King of Sungai Lembing (Padang Awam Sungai Lembing, Kuantan, Pahang)
25 May - Kuih Run Express (Parking Lot IKEA Terbau, Johor Bahru)
25 May - Race Against Cancer Run (Subang Parade, Subang, Selangor)
24 May - Kapas Marang Swimathon (Kapas Island, Terengganu)
24 May - Primula Beach Run (Primula Beach Hotel, Terengganu)
24 May - MAPPAC Family Walk (Taman Jaya Park, PJ, Selangor)
23 May - Trans Mount Lambak Trail (Gunung Lambak, Kluang, Johor)
23 May - The Golden Panoramic 100 Miles (Dataran Indera Pahlawan, Chenor, Pahang)
23 May - i-Ultra Challenge 2.0 (UiTM Cawangan Perlis Kampus Arau Uitm Arau, Perlis)

18 May - CRCNT 3-State Half Marathon (SJK C Pai Teik, Nibong Tebal, Penang)
18 May - SOPMA Baton Run (Bintulu, Sarawak)
18 May - Miri City Day Run (Marina Park City Miri City Hall)
18 May - Sekinchan Sarong Half Marathon (Sawah Sekinchan, Selangor)
18 May - Larian Hari Hutan Antarabangsa (Taman Eko Rimba Kledang Saiong, Ipoh, Perak)
18 May - Diabetes Fun Run (Pusat Kebudayaan dan Kesenian Sultan Salahuddin Shah UPM)
18 May - Charity Run/Walk for Children Cancer (Area Car Free, Beach Street, Penang)
17 May - The Music Run (Bukit Jalil National Stadium, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
17 May - Janda Baik Ultra (Janda Baik, Bentong, Pahang)
17 May - Pangkor Chicken Hill Challenge (Pangkor Island, Perak, Perak)
17 May - Ultron® Night Half Marathon (Dataran Wawasan, Putrajaya)

11 May - Borneo International Marathon (Likas Stadium, Sabah) ⭐⭐⭐
11 May - MBPJ Selangor Trail Endurance Series - Series 1 (Kota Damansara, Selangor)
11 May - Larian Mahkamah Kuching (Mahkamah Kuching, Petra Jaya, Kuching, Sarawak)
11 May - Generali Malaysia Run (Dataran Wawasan, Putrajaya)
11 May - Run for Palestine (Dataran Kemerdekaan Shah Alam)
11 May - Bestride Borneo (MBKS, Sarawak)
11 May - Pink Kaler Fun Run (Dataran Kemerdekaan Shah Alam)
11 May - Run For Future 3.0 (Padang Polo - Ipoh, Perak)
10 May - Taiping Endurance Challenge (Dataran Kedamaian, Taman Tasik Taiping, Perak)
10 May - Watt A Run (Heriot-Watt University Malaysia Campus, Putrajaya)
10 May - Energy Efficiency Run (Suruhanjaya Tenaga, Putrajaya)
10 May - Run for Clean Sport (Dataran Kompleks Perdanasiswa, Universiti Malaya)

04 May - KL City Day Half Marathon (Dataran Merdeka, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
04 May - Putrajaya Women Half Marathon (Kompleks Sukan Air Putrajaya)
04 May - Bertam Half Marathon (MYDIN Bertam, Penang)
04 May - RH Half Marathon (Menara Rimbunan Hijau, Sibu, Sarawak)
04 May - SOPMA Baton Run (Miri, Sarawak)
04 May - Kenanga Port Dickson International Triathlon (Avillion Admiral Cove, Port Dickson)
04 May - Panda City Jungle Run (Semenyih Eco Venture Resort & Recreation)
02 May - N8 Merapoh Rainforest Trail (Dewan Serbaguna Kg Merapoh, Kuala Lipis, Pahang)

APRIL 2025
27 Apr - War On Sugar Fun Run & Walk (Dataran Bandaraya Ipoh, Perak)
27 Apr - Pet Walk (MBKS Foyer Kampung Kenyalang Park, Kuching, Sarawak)
27 Apr - Ultron® Wetlands Trail Run! (Gamuda Cove, Selangor)
27 Apr - Songkran Color Craze (Kota Kinabalu, Sabah)
27 Apr - Beyond Your Dreams Run (Padang Kota Lama, George Town, Penang)
27 Apr - Samarahan Bridge Half Marathon (Summer Mall, Kota Samarahan, Sarawak)
27 Apr - Autism Awareness Walkathon (Bandar Bukit Raja Town Park, Klang, Selangor)
26 Apr - Morib Run (Morib Beach, Banting, Selangor)
26 Apr - Methodist Charity Run (Kuala Lumpur - Mranti Park (Bukit Jalil)
26 Apr - Kangar City Duathlon (Stadium Utama Kangar, Perlis)
26 Apr - Musical Festival X Influence Run 1.0 (KL Base, Sungai Besi, Kuala Lumpur)
26 Apr - CP Songkran Run (SplashMania WaterPark, Bandar Gamuda Cove, Selangor)
25 Apr - Kailas Penang Skyrace (Georgetown, Penang)
25 Apr - TiTi Ultra (Parking Padang, Jalan 1, Taman Titiwangsa, Hulu Langat, Selangor)

20 Apr - PERKESO Run & Ride (Dataran Wawasan, Putrajaya) ⭐⭐⭐
20 Apr - Jogathon Blessing (Persiaran Setia Gemilang, Shah Alam, Selangor)
20 Apr - BMW Wheelcorp Premium Walkathon (Kepong Metropolitan Park, KL)
20 Apr - Mantin Hill to Hill Ultimate Challenge (Lake View Farm Campsite, N.Sembilan)
19 Apr - Kampung Run 1.0 (Medan Niaga Kg Pokok Sena Mata Ayer Perlis)
19 Apr - Cat Walk Fun Run (Anjung Dewan Tuanku Canselor, UMK Bachok)
19 Apr - Ledang Climbathon (Taman Negara Ledang Lagenda, Sagil, Johor)

13 Apr - Miri Marathon (Jalan Merpati, Miri, Sarawak) ⭐⭐⭐
13 Apr - Blue Kaler Fun Run (Dataran Kemerdekaan Shah Alam)
13 Apr - Hari Raya Run (Persiaran Flora, Cyberjaya)
12 Apr - Silabur Ultra Trail ( Kampung Lobang Batu, Serian, Sarawak)

MARCH 2025
23 Mar - Pasir Pinji Fun Run (SJK© Pasir Pinji, Pasir Penji, Ipoh, Perak,)
22 Mar - Kuala Lumpur Night Run (Padang Merbok, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐

16 Mar - Pacemakers Anniversary Run @ PAR2025 (Padang Merbok, Kuala Lumpur) ⭐⭐⭐
15 Mar - North-Eeast PG Ramadhan Endurance (Pdg SMK Pg Free , Green Lane, Penang)

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post Mar 7 2025, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Mar 6 2025, 03:19 PM)
Hello fellow runners longtime never come here.
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ikr! before my post above, i also forgot there was this thread sia laugh.gif

anyone signed up for the S'gor HM?
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post Mar 7 2025, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(mothangel @ Mar 7 2025, 12:33 PM)
Damm.. I have completed 1 FM and 1 50k.
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Time sure flew, congrats on your achievements!
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post Oct 15 2025, 10:33 AM

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ada kaki yg join Penang Bridge International Marathon? Today last day iinm for registration laugh.gif
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post Oct 15 2025, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(ChipZ @ Oct 15 2025, 04:31 PM)
Registered for FM, after not running at PBIM for so many years. The route is mental. Dark and only seaview 95% of the time
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FM is running the whole length of the bridge 2x sia, go to island u-turn back to mainland laugh.gif elevation should be pretty ok? no mountains or hills laugh.gif
one thing about FM is this years' finisher at least looks way, like legit, way better than the HM finisher (which is does not look appealing at all) laugh.gif

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