Axia has been hit by another safety issue involving steering lock and brake lock causing damage to vehicle and passanger. Is it true?
Pls leave some feedback for current axia owner to take note of and future owner to decide for their new car.

Link to fb page as follows:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...100000840775700


Here are perodua technician reply :

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...320609128106546

This post has been edited by ShengHeng: Aug 4 2016, 05:11 PM


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Second case already, Perodua please recall axia EPS like you did to myvi.

Aduh baru mau buka tered

This has happened to my auntie's Alza last year,not the second time. The difference is my auntie diam diam je. Hmm

Yes indeed. Quite a number of alza suffered.
So, what your auntie do? Hope shes fine

axia using EPS?
thats what u get...once the engine died, the whole thing is locked
this is what u get when u get a car with everything electronic

theres a reason proton never went ahead with EPS..other than handling factor

What??? P2??
Protekkkk!!!!

This

2 viral case already

Please perodua. Fix this

Stop it now before people realize u actually just as shitty as proton

If Proton use EPS, 9 out of 10 biji will steering lock accident Liao.

My Axia didn't face this kind of problem.. Few time my car died in the middle of road suddenly due to some noob who not really good at stick
BTW, My Axia is 2016 model..

This post has been edited by revious: Aug 4 2016, 03:30 PM

Of course diam lor

Perodua almost reach godhood in malaysia

Cannot persoal

Thread perodua taik

Proton juga busuk

Logic 404

Just to show how Potong will phailed.

Wow. So many will be killed by axia now

Rip axia owner. Al fatihah

engine died during the car still moving or stationary?

They wont fail

Hence why they dont use eps

Only noob bodo perodua use

Cuz the owner. Sory. Cuz malaysians too stupid to realize how bad it is

Cuz why? Cuz plotek perodua is the biggest plotek in malaysia

Moving.. normal la.. female, not good with stick

p2 use EPS because it saves fuel..same as toyota
p1 dnt wanna use EPS because it affect the handling and the feel when u steer
gain and loss, its never perfect

steering still can steer even engine died?...thn damn lucky
for power steering, it will become hard but steer-able

iriz use EPS. got any issue?

juara also EPS

tered yang ke 19

Someone already explained. Nothing wrong on Perodua car

still many bodo buy p2

Of kos diam. Sudah kutuk protong, then beli perodua - malu lar mau cerita problem perodua. Mesti kena kutuk balik.

Yup, still can steer right left. That time I was teaching her how to drive..

Apa brand EPS pelodua pakai? TAKADA?

looks like manufacturing defect thn

If i say EPS is tied to VSC where the regular hydraulic version cannot, u guys belip or not?

New case bang

How so?
New company

TAKADA GUNA

Actually, when they diagnose the car, they will know what went wrong that cause the accident

But biasalah..

U cari at FB. Model eksiden tu xde ABS

Same with this new case that ts post?

Wtf? Bought sht car expect sht quality la. Bought perodua for its cheapness, not safety. If crash dont blame the car, blame yourself for buying sht car. Still want bising. Deal with it

This post has been edited by Musikl: Aug 4 2016, 04:02 PM

takata airbag is only build for shitty car?

looks like the cheapest version of the axia. Maybe didnt get as much care as the rest of the line ups

The lives within the car must worth less too.

Promotion:
Buy axia,
Free steering lock,
Free brake padal lock.

Ini semua adalah agenda hodoh untuk memburukkan Perodua

Can someone produce a car in the most primitive way , no abs , esc, airbag, psc, vsc, abc, lol, lmao, tfk whatsoever .

Strongly advise they filter our drivers yang bangang in the first few years before theyreally know how to handle a car and what a car is about.

I got 16 years driving manual & no power assist whatsoever.... daily.

EPS > hydraulic PS they said

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Aug 4 2016, 04:37 PM

no P2 basher?

biasalah double standard

I thought Iriz use EPS?

My HRV I fitted a pedal lock that came with a builtin immobiliser.

I tried engaging the lock when the engine is running, just to see if the engine dies....nope the immobiliser didn't off the car.
Means its working as it should.

Only when the engine is off, the immobiliser is active.

Didnt last long, if happen to perokduak and toyoita, the driver it self wil potek protek kotek kotex

insaplah p2

EPS more accurate and almost infinite settings. Hydraulic usually 2-3 settings. Last time got one auto company head said it. EPS is the direction to go to. This was more than 10 years ago.

gosh.

i really hope i will not "play ps4 racing game" in my next car.

Ini kes terpencil je, Perodua top sales. Tolong jgn sebarkan atau viralkan.

Sales > Safety & Quality

Guys,
Here are perodua's technician response,

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid...320609128106546

And a picture of it:


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In some way, it is like playing video games. Most non assisted steering will be heavy at low speeds and light at high speeds. Hydraulic & EPS the other way around. Both hydraulic & EPS will damp steering input feel.

I'm not sure... but one thing I'm sure that, during that time when she put a wrong gear and made the engine stop. She panic a bit and steer left and right..

depa mai dah....

hmm..never drive iriz before thought but never heard any issue from iriz driver
high chance manufacturing defect
proton's electronic usually less problem...not sure which brand they use

So apparently, the technician from perodua was called up to give some explaination.
Summarised as follows:
The victims car was of the lowest variant, with no ABS. So logically, the wheels will lock when an emergency brake is applied and thus, the steering will be locked as well since the wheels are LOCKED!
No airbags were deployed because the hitting point of the front bumper didnt hit the sensor of the airbag.

Makes sense to me.

Question is;
1. The owner claim that the road has no tires skidding mark. What prove the wheels are locked?
2. What about some alza owner who claim they faced the same thing?

Take note that lesser iriz user compared to the best selling axia. More user means higher chances of problem

FYI
iriz already pakai EPS

Your point adds up the logic to the perodua technician reply.
Apparently, the engine shut down dont affect the steering control. What the techbician say was the owner hit the emergency brake which lock the wheels (since the car has no ABS) and thus, the steering is locked as well.

They not good with this stick they r good with different stick haha

fixed

but it was depending on the team how to "program" the EPS

how does electric power steerring saves fuel?

aik..iriz use eps la..

kecian

noob nak bash ni la jadinya

dunno dont care. perodua>all. u dare question god car????biar nyawa melayang asalkan RV tinggi!! ploooteeekkkk!!

lol........

won't lock la.......

bodo like people saying food can burn coz got plastic

Tot Axia got ABS, no?

Drive laju dalam hujan lettewwwww, dah la tayar botak.

only top spec got

Ooo... I see

The engine will not be powering the hydraulic pump that assist steering. Electric is motorized module. Just imagine like those exoskeleton to assist the human body. Instead of hydraulic like Aliens movie one, its electric like Honda's one. Whats more, the unit is lighter than hydraulic. The only bad thing about everything electronic nowdays is you need expensive good batteries to make everything reliable.

This post has been edited by netmatrix: Aug 4 2016, 06:37 PM

The first pix also i notice the tire seems bald. But cannot be certain because its not that clear. But this pix confirms it. Its not software error at all. But badly maintained hardware. No amount of ABS/ VSC can help when there is no hardware traction at all. Brake would feel not working as the car slides. Steering wheel would feel not turning because total understeer. That guy really something la.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/elect...on-test-feature

not really
look at other parts as well
proton's ABS and EBD usually problem free while toyota's ABS always have problem

She's doing fine uninjured thankfully. The car has been fixed I heard
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3782487&hl=

She used to own a Perdana

Her car always rosak too,iinm she just changed her manual gb(I don't know,they don't tell clearly) before the accident happened. The car has died fee times

Starting 2016 G,SE and AV got ABS. The driver's car is E spec kan? The cheapest 25k one

Wheels locked will not cause steering to lock. In fact if your front wheels locks and skid -> no more traction -> you steering will actually lighten up.


Also....doesn't matter EPS or hydraulic PS, once your engine stall there will be no power assist to your steering.

This post has been edited by dares: Aug 4 2016, 08:11 PM

If you put the recomanded 36 psi tyre pressure,
Got pasir abit also you can slide if terover brake.
Been there..


Only old G and E no abs. This year got already for G spec.

Abs also want save cost
Even moto cheap cheap also got abs
Lulz at those sheep who go buy perodua

What i know is axia is good if drive in proper way A to B car journey shud b ok.If the car use fr speeding definitely not safe even brake not so makan

What cheap bike has got ABS, you tell me.

Cb500x kan ada abs
About 30k je

That's not cheap lah. ABS unit around 34k iinm.

Latest axia 2016 only lowest manual spec dont have.

[quote=NielWooWoo1205,Aug 4 2016, 07:49 PM]
She's doing fine uninjured thankfully. The car has been fixed I heard

Nice to hear that. Thank god

Thank god shes fine. The entire car turn turtle. Oh gosh

Iriz come with EPS though

my axia(atas nama) only front and rear sensor got problem... solution? just cabut... memang bagus perodua services center punya solution...

kereta pun akak pakai... kalau aku pakai lama da kena maki kot perodua seluruhnya....

By reducing parasitic loss

who said proton not using EPS? they are using it, made by Bosch.

based on what experience you talking on? Iriz already using EPS by Bosch and i dont see any complains so far lol.

only iriz
other more higher end still hydraulic
they have their reason to stay hydraulic and its not abt saving fuel

new model line up will use EPS for sure. Bosch has an independent plant just to manufacture and concentrate on power steering production mainly for Proton. I think they take this serious.

lets hope they tuned it well, EPS sarks literally

produa cars problem and proton will be blame.that good.