It shoud be Sub or Sub Date.
There is no Sub 'No Date'

hahahah, i forgot which watch forum i saw that term, just plucked and use

Ayam klcc
Problem is it is a JDM unit, unless u get the European unit, most of the shops do not carry it.

Get it, that thing grows on you.

gwm5610 where got diff if jdm or europe? all also made in thailand.

btw, new model coming.
gw5000hr... sexy black red... international release somemore.

JDM = Japan domestic market, which are watches that is only properly available in Japan and not for export. You might get people buying there and bringing it in but it won't be from official distributor.

Not much difference between the 1er or 1jf, one is meant for Japan market and the other the European market. Finding it locally is probably the bigger challenge. I got mine from Pertama Complex by pure chance, after missing out on it while in Japan.

i wouldn't so far to call a gwm5610 a classic, far from it seeing as its a new-ish model.
a classic is the 5600 / 5500 / 5000 or any of its reissues.

uhh yes, im well aware.
just cos it looks similar doesn't make it a classic.
the 5000 has a solid screw caseback and stainless steel case with the resin bezel on top...ie a completely different model in a different league of built quality.

of  cos a gwm5610 is cheap...
but if u really want a 5000...better just look for a used dw5030... thats the most recent faithful reissue of a 5000.
i know someone here recently got the gset 30th set for rm1.1k or so... brand new here is rm1.7k.
http://www.g-central.com/gset-30-1-g-shock-gift-box-set/

nope, i dont like the 5xxx series, too small for my tastes.
i had a couple of 5600 before... got rid of them.
i still like my mudman, rangeman and g-steel.

ya but atomic is kinda useless here... while solar if u use often u would need a batt change roughly every 7yrs.
give me 10yr battery life anytime

being newbie is no excuse for being lazy.

I'm in HK now, need help with the BLNR or the Smurf? LOL.
The "new" PAM is like.. poverty version. For people who really want a PAM but can't afford it.

snap caseback     

spring bars instead of screw bars.

screw back changed to snap back.
screw bars changed to spring bars.

Tag. Older models but automatic. Quality is 2nd to none for that price. Oris and tissot a bit off. Japanese mostly rubbish.

Haha! i get ticked off too...that means Seiko movement for Grand Seiko, Credor and even Astron are all rubbish 
Generic ETA movement in majority of Swiss made watches is the best coz it is Swiss!!!

rm4k i dunno any tags in that price range.
for seiko also same, u can only buy a box at that range.

oris still best value at rm4k+.

Logically thinking, wouldn't he doing legit check before purchasing?
It is a big ticket item, not just cap ayam Seiko (quote from someone  )
Well just saying.