there is an issue that discussing about JPA scholarship....some ppls think that should take it and of coz need to work back for government....and some ppls think that its not worth to make this deal..coz after graduate u cant work freely...means u need to work for government........pls share ur opinion that whether we should take the scholarship or not......thanks^^

Do you have other options?

emm....ptptn?

My brother got both but he settled on JPA finally.

emm..so he has to work back for govern lor? same here...im taking it too...but ppls keep telling me..." work for govern after graduate"? don wan la.... but for me, i think work for govern not as bad as they thought...becoz at least u can gain experience from there lor..... coz fresh graduate usually hard to find job...bcoz no experience mar.....ur bro think the same way as me?

You are very lucky indeed to get a scholarship..You have to understand that scholarship is a privileges given to a very few select people such as you..Anyway,what's the problem with working with the government after graduating?You get a stable job and income.Also,the contract is probably not longer than 5 years unless you are taking medic courses.In fact,I know a lot a friend who is a JPA scholarship holder who doesn't get a job with the government after 6 month graduating and have been released from the contract..However,if you don't want it,there is a thousand more who probably deserve it more than you.

My brother is taking a civil engineering so if the government needs or calls for his service, I don't see any problems working with the government. Stable income and got a lot of incentives.

I regretted for not applying for JPA scholarship.

This post has been edited by David83: Jan 21 2007, 01:15 PM

of course take it, normally government wont job have you in the end, if can then take both. Because the jpa money sure not enuf to use, some time they will give u free ptptn coz of good result. My fren took but no need to bond for government i think. And one thing is, u think government job not good? haha, tats wrong, a lot of private ppl will come for you just to get news from u ~

yea lor....stable income somemore can gain exp.......dunno why some ppls blame on the low salary and so on....i heard from the case that govern didnt get a for the scholarship holder.....how high the probability?

What you meant by free PTPTN?

When you go overseas and once you have seen the opportunities on offer, I do not know if you guys will still have the same opinion in working for the government.

Every year, we can read reports on scholars saying that they will return and blah blah blah.......but when they have spent 3 years in a good university overseas with reasonable grades, besides seeing prospects of being employed by a big firm with good perks and remuneration,last but not least, a distant possibility of a PR in a particular country, they sure would regret what they have said.

This post has been edited by feynman: Jan 21 2007, 02:59 PM

I don't know about you guys,but to me scholarship should be given to poor students.If you can afford to think whether or not to accept then you must probably be well-off enough not to take it.Also,when people give you money for free,they are entitled to expect something from you.In this case,you shouldn't grumble if you have to work with the government.Besides,you will be serving the country and getting paid for it...

This post has been edited by raquinz: Jan 21 2007, 01:52 PM

AGREED

if u're taking JPA, make sure that u get the best university out there

look at the bright sides....
1) u don have to pay for the tuition fee
2) job after graduation assured, no worries bout unemployment

For me, i will take if there is no other scholarship available. I'm currently a local JPA scholar, and i heard that not everyone will be called back for work.

Depends on the course i guess...if u're a JPA scholar doin Medicine,Dentistry bla bla bla then Yes, u will be bonded with the government for 10 years!! 10 years man!! Imagine...

For JPA loan holders, the maximum loan u can ask for is 200K and if you agree to pay back by installment when u start working, you don't havta work under the goverment. SAme goes if you are to be paying for yourself. If you are not able to pay back the loan then Yes, you will have to serve the government for 10 years..there's a contract for it!!

Some courses don't need you to work with the government kot...like engineering...ntah la i'm not sure abt dat....but MEdical courses is like the above!! But seriously speaking, a scholarship is a scholarship, its not easy to get...ppl will say u're crazy if you dont take it...how i wish i got JPA scholarship jugak!! U're really lucky you know that!! Gud luck

Here are few questions for you.

1. What is the course you are offered/plan to take?
2. Is it local or abroad?

I was offered JPA scholarship to study abroad, but I've rejected it and opt to Yayasan Telekom Malaysia (YTM) scholarships which have almost the same bonding rules which is 2 times of sponsorship duration. Being bond is fine with me, if and only if I get to do what I've learned in my degree, but in most private scholarship that wasn't really the case as they have all the rights to give any job to you, even the one that has nothing to do with you degree anyway.

Btw, be reminded, that if you plan to study offshore, and you think that you might not want to work with the government, then stay abroad while paying it. I've heard from some lecturers that back in 2000, the sponsorship are usually amount up to USD 100K which is equivalent to almost RM 400K. If you plan to pay while working not for the government in Malaysia. You could have half of a million after you manage to pay the debt.

i heard of it too.....

on issues of paying back to JPA via working bond, usually those who didnt get to be called out to work with gvment are those who applied for an alternative payback once they graduated. the bonding with gvment is quite a flexible deal. i've got friends already working here in the UK who were sponsored by JPA.

they struck a deal with JPA and agreed to pay everything back. although not everyone will get this deal. it highly depends on ur field of study. for example, if there arent any gvment departments for ur field (lets say quantum mechanics or some far off physics), and there's a place for u to work abroad for a period of time, u can opt to buy back ur contract.

but if u're doing chemical engineering, where there's a lot of those assumingly needed in malaysia/petronas, then u'd have to fulfill ur contract.

u wil only need to work for jpa for courses like med and dentistry lah...others they dun need u one...they even tell u u can gain exp in that country before come back...and u come back to serve the country...not abt the bond...and if u r goin for med and dentistry, the bond u serve is a very good chance for experience what...so just accept lah...be a good son/daughter...=)

ERM,If me,i sure will accept la,although will diikat,but not a bad thing to serve my country...

BTW,i confuse about 1 thing,if i finish study medical n come back work for G,can i still persuing my PhD while working??

then u have to check the terms and conditions with JPA department.....

and if u dun feel like serving the bond for jpa, just pay back!...personal choice actually...

I'm not a JPA scholar for undergraduate studies, but because i did dentistry, we had to serve 3 years compulsory service in the govt.
While i was in service I applied for Latihan Dalam Perkhidmatan to do my Masters in Oral Surgery. When I go back, I'm bonded 7 years, which is pretty reasonable as the cost for my studies here will come up to a cool RM1million. How to payback??!?!?

So yes, there are still opportunities for postgraduate studies while in govt service. It's not as bad as people make it out to be.

Good luck with your choices.

u don have a single choice if u are facing financial problems... when u get de scholarship is just like u get some water in desert... p/s JPA scholarship is hard to get.. note it dude..

I thought they won't force you to work with them! I got many friends that work in private sector after graduation. No problem at all

It is said that JPA will only take back 30% of their scholars to serve the government upon graduation. And most of the time this 30% consists of mainly bumiputras.

are u sure with 30%? for me...if work for govern also not a big deal....i juz cant accept why someone who got the scholar then rejected it in half way.....easy to get influence by frens.....

A lot non-bumi think that if they work for government, the pay are very low compare to private sector, besides that the chances to get promotion is low compare to bumi.

all my 5 friends taking JPA didnt get called bac

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This post has been edited by hercules899: Feb 7 2013, 04:52 PM

Does the JPA bond cover working for GLCs? From discussions about work with Petronas, I gather that it does.

Please enlighten. Thanks.

are they lucky or? btw, low salary and difficulty to promote to higher rank < thats the facts lor.....i was been told by my fren.....u bond 6 yrs = low salary.... u think its worth to take this scholarship? then i answered...wats the main issue come after u graduate? job or jobless.....higher chances for u to get a job if u take jpa scholar....from there u can gained the experience that every company need it.... fresh graduate usually they wont except becoz no experience lor....(agree?)

I would say "yes, you should take". I think you think too much, a lot of people think it'not worth it working with government. In my opinion, I think they think too much, because now or even in future , it's not easy to find a job outside. Since, the govenment will offer a job for you..and why not?
Also, you will finish your studies without financial problems.It's really great , you know. You are really lucky if compared to others.
Last time, I also think too much as you, so I didn't give it a try. that is I didn't apply. I feel regretted now. If i were you, I wouldn't let it happened again.
I am currently waiting for my STPM result, although there's no more JPA scolarship , I think I would try all other scolarship that offered to STPM students.

A LOT of my friends are JPA scholars. One advise: If you're very anti gov, don't go. Just like me but i did went for the JPA interview last year. The food there (UITM, UTM) sucks, u MUST wear long-sleeved shirts and long pants to school everyday. No jeans, no shorts. U cannot skip class at all. U will have to go for some brainwashing talks, telling u how grateful u should be and how great our gov is, asking u to stay loyal to msia gov forever.

since when do UTM JPA scholarship holders need to wear long sleeves? jangan bawak cerita karut laa. food sucks in UTM? u sure? coz we dont have canteen based food services, but we have contract vendors. if u dont like one stall, go to the next one.

people should start educating themselves between anti-government and anti-BN. those who end up in ISA are usually people who couldnt differentiate. since JPA is handing out money, TAKE it. they ask for u to be loyal to the government, not BN. means that if there were any change of gvment, u will still be loyal to malaysia and serve for the best of her. what's wrong with being patriotic?

Feynman,

What is the problem in your scenerio? In that case, a person would have earn enough money to pay off the JPA scholarship and they will not have to work for the government.

Dreamer

Loyalty is to the country not to the government.

huh?

if u wish to go for local uni...i think still have JPA scholarship.....try to get more infor from the site.....

I'm one of them Now working in private sector

nice.....no letter from govern? what kind of job u apply/filled in when u submit the form?

my lecturer told me it is best if non-bumi get jpa offer...
coz non-bumi have higher possibility didnt get called bac

u didnt get called back to work for the government but are u supposed to pay the debt??? pay back the money that u got from the scholarship??

i think u should......i'm also got scholar from JPA....but still until now, govt didn't call me for the job at the govt. sector....the best is u don't have to pay back because it is scholar....hehehehe...FYI i'm from Engineering background...so, in govt. sector so little post for engineer...as a conclusion, it's depend on you...that's ur future....i hope u get the right choice whether want it or not....gud luck to u....

they didnt call u back, or they couldnt call u back?

hehe...

I'm working in factory

Work for the Gahmen is not a bad choice actually, free study sumore!

oh forgot to mention this:

although working with the gvment have low basic salary, it's the perks that gets u by.

i. u have various types of non-taxable allowances. u get allowances for home (around RM170 - RM900), for spouse and kids, critical field and many more. non-taxable!

ii. yearly bonus. not much, but it's guaranteed.

iii. free medical.

iv. extremely low interest rate for housing/car loans.

v. it's extremely hard to get fired. they will always give u several options (if u really suck at ur job): 3 months notice to quit; or u voluntarily letak jawatan; or u transfer urself to another department, school, ministry or even another state; or they will demote u.

vi. ultimately: breakfast at 8.00am, brunch at 10.30, lunch at 1pm and tea at 3.30pm. mengalahkan hobbit...

LMAO............If one wants to have a simple life, this is a great choice.

You're right. Simple life is the word to describe for government servants

i agree with the perks. but i think the govt workers now will find it not so easy to curi tulang. esp those working in putrajaya. cos my mom works there and i know they're not supposed to be found eating at the cafe after 8am. the most they can do is bungkus and eat in the office's 'bilik makan'. that oso not evryone can eat all at once cos they dont want any dept to be completely empty. and, definitely no brunch, tea whatsoever. if they wanna go out to the bank, clinic, etc, they'll need ur superior's permission 1st. it's quite strict there la..but i'm not sure bout govt offices in KL or other states. mayb not so strict as putrajaya i guess...

well, i suppose i should also mention the annual "exams" that each gvment worker needs to take nowadays. yes, we have freakin assessments baby! if u're not into self-improvement of any sort, u'll find ur salary becomes stagnant with no increments, no bonus and minimal perks. simple life? well if u dont like exams, dont join.

hmm....i think juz putrajaya is so strict only...
coz when go to government office and looking for someone, they alwawys say en XXX or pn XXX sedang makan, they should b back soon....

u mean those SSM system? exam that need to write X000 words essay and so on?

the government's test need to write xooo words essay ??
i heard my aunt told me the exam ask stupid question like who what document u need to prepare if wana apply loan n who to refer....izzit the same?

In my oipion you should take it. it's true that the possibilty of getting call to work for the government is very very low. I hope you can provide us more details about the field of study they are offering since that is the main factor that determine whether the call you or not

im taking it lor..... i oso hope that someone will get me the info for applying job ( offered by government for JPA students )

I graduated with a state government scholarship
looking forward to work with gotverment ler
I write in to them asked if can be positioned in any goverment agency
instead of offering me a job
they released my bond lar

my point is, don't worry so much about working for the goverment
you want also they wont necessary let you in
nowadays goverment position so HOT ok
they work 5 days week
got increment and bonus
plus all kinds of benefits -- housing, education, clothing
not to mention they "free-style" working environment

This post has been edited by Ritz Crackers: Jan 28 2007, 08:16 AM

I would like to know how can i apply the JPA or PTPTN? Last year one of my fren has applied and he got it. WHat are the qualification to apply it. Thank you.

Noob question here.....JPA scholarship applies to all field and subject? Or juz those hot subject and fields?

u can apply jpa online..juz go to the website
JPA_website
this scholarship din cover all the fields and subject...u hav to find it yourself
the webby got all the info

Hi there, this is my first post.

I've noticed that many of the posts are about "getting the scholarship". Does anyone ever think about what happens "after getting the scholarship"? Is there anyone here working for JPA under the scholarship bond?

I'm currently under JPA scholarship majoring in Media Innovation (Multimedia Design for advertising). I'm about to graduate and I hope somebody can help to answer some queries I have:

1. How does JPA allocate jobs to its scholars? Will I get to choose the jobs? What if the job allocated isn't relevant to my qualifications?
2. How soon does JPA contact its scholars regarding job offers?
3. If I have an offer from the private sector, can I take it?
4. Is it possible to convert the scholarship into a loan? How are the interest rates like?
5. What are the chances are that I wil get called back since my degree isn't a "HOT" qualification?

I really hope someone can help me out. Much thanks in advance.

Btw, I got a mix of A1s, A2s and a couple of Bs for my SPM, but I got the JPA scholarship. So just try if you don't have straight As, you might get it too. Co-curriculum activities help.

U got the scholarhsip despite having several Bs because it was a few years back where not many ppl score straight As.

For the other questions..try to call JPA instead. I think they'll help.

JPA allocates jobs through 'Suruhanjaya Perkhidmatan Awam', they're the ones responsible for finding jobs for JPA scholar graduates. You will not be able to choose your job. Good news though about 40-60% of the time the job offered will be somewhat relevant to your studies. It might not be what you learned in school but you'll definitely need to tap into the stuff you learned in university. For example a friend of mine has a civil engineering degree is now working for JKR. His work has something to do with highway construction and road maintainability. He doesn't use all of the stuff he learned in university but his education is relevant to his job now.


They're supposed to contact scholars within 6 months, although there as some cases when they contacted someone 8 months after graduation. But it's safe to say after 6 months you're free!!




Some companies ask potential employees if they are bonded. When I interviewed for Shell and Sony, both the interviewers asked if I was bonded. But I think if you've received an offer by all means you should take it.. besides does JPA expect it's graduates to sit on their ass and go hungry? Hell no... But if JPA call you back to serve out your bond, you can always appeal. Our govt likes making us beg for everything (). You can write a 'surat rayuan' asking them for a release from your bond. A friend recently got called by JPA for a job after 8 months, and she was already working for a private company. So she appealed to JPA citing the fact that it's already past the 6 months. There's probably some other reasons that the wrote in the letter but the point is her appeal was accepted and she didn't have to work for the govt.



Not sure if you can do that, only thing I know that can happen is when scholarship students don't honor their contract.. then they have to pay everything back.. 0% interest though.



Right now doctors, dentists and pharmacists are almost always called back. Engineers about maybe 20-30% are called back. Engineering are supposedly a 'HOT' qualification and even not many engineering grads are called back by JPA. So I think it's quite unlikely that you will be called by JPA.


Hope I answered some of your questions to you satisfaction..

he rite!!..but they are to many JPa gad..so if u lucky..u will be the choosen one ..
add information : JPA maybe increase the scholarship allowance

Thanks so much for answering my questions
The time frame in which they can contact JPA scholars is not 6 months, but 12 months! (That's what it says in my contract)

After you graduate and happen to be offered a very good job in a reputable company, you could negotiate with a bank to pay off your JPA scholarship by taking a personal loan from them. That would mean you break the contract with JPA and then pay them off with a loan from a bank.

This post has been edited by mumeichan: Apr 18 2007, 06:53 PM

JPA scholarship still on?

What do you mean?

Hmm..just go ahead.

for medicine, is it true that u will be sent to far-away states like sabah, sarawak, kelantan or terrengganu ? this situation will only happen for the first few years or for the whole 10 years bond?

Where do actuaries work in the government by the way?

You can appeal to based in your hometown, one of my friend's friend did that. But i think it is unethical

You should go ahead.

Yea.you should appreciate the chance..good luck..

Wah so now they changed it to 12 months? Man that sucks.. I've graduated a couple of years ago.. when I signed my contract it was in 2000 so they probably have changed the terms of the contract since then.

after finished your studies, you need to attend some interview, and they will ask you where do you wish to go. Not necessarily you need to work at Sabah and Sarawak.
Anyway, why not go and work there? The salary there is quite high compare working at peninsular. Plus there is nothing there that makes you spend all your money, good for saving

I guess I'll just take the offer from the private sector while waiting for govt's response...
If my appeal to be release is not approved then nvm lor. If I'm required to serve, just serve lor...

After all, I heard work for govt good benefits and better entry level pay.

Oh, working in Sabah & Sarawak could be nice... slower pace of life.

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Added on April 19, 2007, 3:37 pmWhat did you study and are you serving the bond now?

This post has been edited by smubblerz: Apr 19 2007, 03:37 PM

I studied Mechanical Engineering in the US, and no I'm not 'lucky' enough to serve the bond. Seriously though all the Malaysian scholars from my graduating class (with exception of that JKR civil engineer)..none of us were called back to serve the bond. But all of us were engineering graduates tho... maybe not enough positions in the JKR lohh..

This post has been edited by enkadirmainbola: Apr 21 2007, 11:17 AM

so other than JPA and MARA what other government loan u can apply for? coz banks are a bit too much arr.

PTPTN lor

a few of my frens reject the scholarship, swt

i personally think that if:
1) you probably know that you'll be rejecting the scholarship offer later;
2) you are applying for the sake of applying, but reject it later;
3) you have the sufficient funding to study abroad on your own;

then you shouldn't have applied for it initially because you are just depriving other more deserving applicants from a chance for scholarships. just my two cents worth of opinion.

p.s. there are no free lunches in this world.
p.p.s. i didn't apply because my results are not good enough. LOL!

PTPTN is for local U or colleges.what abt overseas?

I'm doing immunology degree under jpa. How high are the chances for jpa to bond me? What do you think they will ask me to serve as? Usually immunologist in Msia need at least masters/phd, right?