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post Jul 24 2016, 10:22 PM, updated 10y ago

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Guys,

I have few questions.

1) What is urut batin? Which part is being massaged and how? And why?

2) During massage, it's common for the person being massaged to burp (keluar angin). But sometimes the masseuse would burp to. Some say because the 'angin' is transferred to the masseus. What is the science behind this?

Topic is not under serious Kopitiam, but pls don't troll too much. Thanks for responding.
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:23 PM

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Buang angin at didi
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:25 PM

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Uh.. What massaj did u do that made u lepas angin camtu
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:25 PM

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post Jul 24 2016, 10:26 PM

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1. Male sexual organ massage. Suppose to improve blood circulation, so that you can perform better. It can be painful. Please make sure you go to those masseuse that have received proper training.

2. I have wondered about that. Can't think of a scientific or medical explanation. But I myself have never burped when I am massaged.
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:28 PM

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there is no real urut batin anymore
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QUOTE(Necrosis @ Jul 24 2016, 10:22 PM)
Guys,

I have few questions.

1) What is urut batin? Which part is being massaged and how? And why?

2) During massage, it's common for the person being massaged to burp (keluar angin). But sometimes the masseuse would burp to. Some say because the 'angin' is transferred to the masseus. What is the science behind this?

Topic is not under serious Kopitiam, but pls don't troll too much. Thanks for responding.
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1) urut batin urut u punya didi sampai pancut. Kalau u mau urut betul betul cari perempuan umo 40 yang sudah kahwin.

2)urut badan yes. Dia akn urut tulang belikat belakang . Tengkuk. Leher.

If tukang urut ada offer buat rawatan for ear please dont take.because this rawatan telinga will consume time u SHOULD get for masaage


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post Jul 24 2016, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jul 24 2016, 10:28 PM)
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Ada. Dia urut betul betul urut. Kalau ko nak carik urut kahwin cari yang dah berumur. Tenaga diorang licut tu kuat beb. Kalau ko cari anak dara muda muda tu picit takde rasa
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 24 2016, 10:27 PM)
1. Male sexual organ massage.  Suppose to improve blood circulation, so that you can perform better.  It can be painful.  Please make sure you go to those masseuse that have received proper training. 

2. I have wondered about that.  Can't think of a scientific or medical explanation.  But I myself have never burped when I am massaged.
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try massage your neck with olive oil. normally if you massage using your thumbs you will burped.

https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-story-with-...while-massaging

As I know, the WIND that you claimed is a something we called it as a "Trigger Point". A trigger point is a tight area within muscle tissue that causes pain in other parts of the body. A trigger point in the back, for example, may reduce referral pain in the neck. The neck, now acting as a satellite trigger point, may then cause pain in the head. The pain may be sharp and intense or a dull ache. In my opinion, trigger point is the wind that you claimed.

The answer to "What Are Trigger Points?" is: research it still underway. But many characteristics have been observed for decades by researchers all over the world. With new testing methods and equipment, in the last ten years much has been learned about the physiology of trigger points. And even though not every mechanism is known, patients get better when their trigger points are treated!
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:33 PM

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My guess is that while you are massaging around the shoulder you may be hitting the vagus nerve or the pressure of the massage may be influencing the vagus nerve

The following from wikipedia explain the very broad functions of the vagus nerve - which is why we focus on opening that area in many different conditions:

The vagus nerve supplies motor parasympathetic fibers to all the organs except the suprarenal (adrenal) glands, from the neck down to the second segment of the transverse colon. The vagus also controls a few skeletal muscles, namely:

* Cricothyroid muscle
* Levator veli palatini muscle
* Salpingopharyngeus muscle
* Palatoglossus muscle
* Palatopharyngeus muscle
* Superior, middle and inferior pharyngeal constrictors
* Muscles of the larynx (speech).

This means that the vagus nerve is responsible for such varied tasks as heart rate, gastrointestinal peristalsis, sweating, and quite a few muscle movements in the mouth, including speech (via the recurrent laryngeal nerve) and keeping the larynx open for breathing. It also receives some sensation from the outer ear, via the Auricular branch (also known as Alderman's nerve) and part of the meninges.
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Jul 24 2016, 10:31 PM)
try massage your neck with olive oil. normally if you massage using your thumbs you will burped.

https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-story-with-...while-massaging

As I know, the WIND that you claimed is a something we called it as a "Trigger Point". A trigger point is a tight area within muscle tissue that causes pain in other parts of the body. A trigger point in the back, for example, may reduce referral pain in the neck. The neck, now acting as a satellite trigger point, may then cause pain in the head. The pain may be sharp and intense or a dull ache. In my opinion, trigger point is the wind that you claimed.

The answer to "What Are Trigger Points?" is: research it still underway. But many characteristics have been observed for decades by researchers all over the world. With new testing methods and equipment, in the last ten years much has been learned about the physiology of trigger points. And even though not every mechanism is known, patients get better when their trigger points are treated!
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I have had hard massages from good masseurs but never experienced burping before.
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(GigihBerusaha @ Jul 24 2016, 10:28 PM)
urut batin is a way to apologize to one of the 2 prominent figures during ramadhan, the other being zahir.

While yawning has been proven to be contagious, so far there are no research regarding the contingency of burping or farting, but there are reasons to believe that they are similarly contagious.
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Thats a good one. LOL!

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post Jul 24 2016, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 24 2016, 10:29 PM)
1) urut batin urut u punya didi sampai pancut. Kalau u mau urut betul betul cari perempuan umo 40 yang sudah kahwin.

2)urut badan yes. Dia akn urut tulang belikat belakang . Tengkuk. Leher.

If tukang urut ada offer buat rawatan for ear please dont take.because this rawatan telinga will consume time u SHOULD get for masaage
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Perempuan urut ur didi, halal?
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:36 PM

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Urut dd bagi muntah
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 24 2016, 10:34 PM)
I have had hard massages from good masseurs but never experienced burping before.
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I think only malay massat got burps

if thai masat one sometimes they use their heel. damn painful I tell u.

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once she massage your thigh area, the urge is near...
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(king_shazman @ Jul 24 2016, 10:36 PM)
Urut dd bagi muntah
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Other man pegang ur didi can naik and muntah? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(GigihBerusaha @ Jul 24 2016, 10:28 PM)
urut batin is a way to apologize to one of the 2 prominent figures during ramadhan, the other being zahir.

While yawning has been proven to be contagious, so far there are no research regarding the contingency of burping or farting, but there are reasons to believe that they are similarly contagious.
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this is win !
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 24 2016, 10:31 PM)
Ada. Dia urut betul betul urut. Kalau ko nak carik urut kahwin cari yang dah berumur. Tenaga diorang licut tu kuat beb. Kalau ko cari anak dara muda muda tu picit takde rasa
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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Jul 24 2016, 10:40 PM)
ni mcm pernah experience je
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Aku pernah urut denga perempuan Thailand. Pinoy. Malay.
But Malay really suck want. Kau bayar 1,jam dia urut 45minit pastu dia nak balik dah.katanya ada bkrthday party.


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post Jul 24 2016, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Necrosis @ Jul 24 2016, 10:38 PM)
Other man pegang ur didi can naik and muntah? hmm.gif
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Ini masat tempat pilih amoi pakai katalog punya
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QUOTE(zeist @ Jul 24 2016, 10:38 PM)
once she massage your thigh area, the urge is near...
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u sangka she is a female

suddenly bila lampu buka

SHEMALE
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QUOTE(king_shazman @ Jul 24 2016, 10:50 PM)
Ini masat tempat pilih amoi pakai katalog punya
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post Jul 24 2016, 10:54 PM

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Ini masat tempat pilih amoi pakai katalog punya
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Non-halal la like dat.
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post Jul 24 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(Necrosis @ Jul 24 2016, 10:36 PM)
Perempuan urut ur didi, halal?
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when a woman touch your body regardless any part considered halal or not?
if No then tak halal la....
if Yes then halal la....

there is should be no discrimination of your own human body part whether it is sensitive, public or private part....
any part of your body is part of you, so if a woman touch you consider halal then it is halal, don't think so much and go enjoy....
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True urut batin, no hanky-panky, no hamsup and no pancut.
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post Jul 24 2016, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Jul 24 2016, 11:00 PM)
when a woman touch your body regardless any part considered halal or not?
if No then tak halal la....
if Yes then halal la....

there is should be no discrimination of your own human body part whether it is sensitive, public or private part....
any part of your body is part of you, so if a woman touch you consider halal then it is halal, don't think so much and go enjoy....
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sometimes no need touch also already toink

HAHAHAHAHA
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 24 2016, 11:05 PM)
True urut batin, no hanky-panky, no hamsup and no pancut.
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post Jul 25 2016, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 24 2016, 11:05 PM)
True urut batin, no hanky-panky, no hamsup and no pancut.
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 24 2016, 10:27 PM)
1. Male sexual organ massage.  Suppose to improve blood circulation, so that you can perform better.  It can be painful.  Please make sure you go to those masseuse that have received proper training. 

2. I have wondered about that.  Can't think of a scientific or medical explanation.  But I myself have never burped when I am massaged.
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But did you cum during the massage?
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Jul 24 2016, 11:00 PM)
when a woman touch your body regardless any part considered halal or not?
if No then tak halal la....
if Yes then halal la....

there is should be no discrimination of your own human body part whether it is sensitive, public or private part....
any part of your body is part of you, so if a woman touch you consider halal then it is halal, don't think so much and go enjoy....
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When a man and a woman are inside an enclosed room, it's khalwat.
Doesn't matter whether there are hanky panky elements.
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But did you cum during the massage?
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I would like to know this too. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 24 2016, 10:31 PM)
Ada. Dia urut betul betul urut. Kalau ko nak carik urut kahwin cari yang dah berumur. Tenaga diorang licut tu kuat beb. Kalau ko cari anak dara muda muda tu picit takde rasa
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yg muda ada kena cari PRC yg dah gi training urut tu...lupa lak nama urut tu apa...dia tarik kote cam tarik chewing gum je.....walaupun sakit lepas tu rasa segar je...
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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Jul 24 2016, 11:00 PM)
when a woman touch your body regardless any part considered halal or not?
if No then tak halal la....
if Yes then halal la....

there is should be no discrimination of your own human body part whether it is sensitive, public or private part....
any part of your body is part of you, so if a woman touch you consider halal then it is halal, don't think so much and go enjoy....
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clearly you have no idea what Islam teaches about touching opposite sex.
some mazhab forbid completely skin-to-skin touch unless necessary like mazhab syafi'i.
most mazhab agree that it is permissable to touch as long as there is no sexual desire but once there is desire, then it is haram. so the line between having desire and not having desire is very blurry which is hy syafi'i just forbade it totally.

but anyway, since it is natural that a handshake with the opposite sex hardly ever arouses and that a handjob hardly ever DOESNT arouse, it is safe to say that yes, there definitely is a big difference on which body part is touched. only an idiot would try to claim that there shouldnt be discrimination of body parts.
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QUOTE(creep @ Jul 25 2016, 08:40 AM)
yg muda ada kena cari PRC yg dah gi training urut tu...lupa lak nama urut tu apa...dia tarik kote cam tarik chewing gum je.....walaupun sakit lepas tu rasa segar je...
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PRC panggil 拉根, tarik akar.

Tried that before. Would like to try Malay style too...
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 24 2016, 10:34 PM)
I have had hard massages from good masseurs but never experienced burping before.
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Usually it's the masseur that burped, not the person being massaged.
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QUOTE(GoldenHorn @ Jul 25 2016, 09:01 AM)
Bahahaha bodohhh lawak gila
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Do u hv a recommendation?
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QUOTE(davkong @ Jul 25 2016, 09:46 AM)
Usually it's the masseur that burped, not the person being massaged.
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But did you cum during the massage?
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Some practitioners don't believe it is good to cum. So, they don't masturbate the person being massaged until ejaculation.
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 25 2016, 10:06 AM)
Some practitioners don't believe it is good to cum.  So, they don't masturbate the person being massaged until ejaculation.
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You used your imagination to auto ejaculate after she wipes her hand? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(6216 @ Jul 25 2016, 10:17 AM)
You used your imagination to auto ejaculate after she wipes her hand? whistling.gif
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Up to you.

Sometimes those real skillful urut batin masseurs are older women and also men.

I hope you have a powerful imagination. lol.gif
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QUOTE(homicidal85 @ Jul 25 2016, 09:08 AM)
clearly you have no idea what Islam teaches about touching opposite sex.
some mazhab forbid completely skin-to-skin touch unless necessary like mazhab syafi'i.
most mazhab agree that it is permissable to touch as long as there is no sexual desire but once there is desire, then it is haram. so the line between having desire and not having desire is very blurry which is hy syafi'i just forbade it totally.

but anyway, since it is natural that a handshake with the opposite sex hardly ever arouses and that a handjob hardly ever DOESNT arouse, it is safe to say that yes, there definitely is a big difference on which body part is touched. only an idiot would try to claim that there shouldnt be discrimination of body parts.
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Not surprising, given that the middle east are unable to agree among themselves which is the correct interpretation of the ambiguous scriptures. The scriptures were written in such loose ways that it can have 10001 ways to explain and still each turn out to be the "correct" way. That's why religious extremism are easily born, for example ISIS.
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Jul 25 2016, 10:20 AM)
Up to you. 

Sometimes those real skillful urut batin masseurs are older women and also men. 

I hope you have a powerful imagination.  lol.gif
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QUOTE(lmunyee @ Jul 25 2016, 10:25 AM)
Not surprising, given that the middle east are unable to agree among themselves which is the correct interpretation of the ambiguous scriptures. The scriptures were written in such loose ways that it can have 10001 ways to explain and still each turn out to be the "correct" way. That's why religious extremism are easily born, for example ISIS.
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true. in Islam there is a core and there are branches.
the core is the same wherever you go and never changes and there is no ambiguity about it - the five pillars of Islam and the six pillars of iman are an example of this core.
the branches are left for learned people to decipher according to the contemporary socio-political and geographical climate because there is no concrete scripture be it in the Qur'an or the hadith. whether or not men can touch women is one example of this - the prophet never forbade it but it depends on the interpretation of modesty at the time. another example is slavery - again not forbidden by the prophet but heavily against and laws were put in place to slowly erode the practice - today it is largely agreed by all learned ulamaks that bringing back slavery is haram. another example is vaccination. another is aurat.

basically, human perception of decency and rights change over time so Islamic laws gives a lot of leeway for topics of low importance. however, the core is the reference point for all branches and never changes.
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Basically, yrut batin = hand job?
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 24 2016, 10:29 PM)
1) urut batin urut u punya didi sampai pancut. Kalau u mau urut betul betul cari perempuan umo 40 yang sudah kahwin.

2)urut badan yes. Dia akn urut tulang belikat belakang . Tengkuk. Leher.

If tukang urut ada offer buat rawatan for ear please dont take.because this rawatan telinga will consume time u SHOULD get for masaage
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dafuq!!??
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QUOTE(GnomeMage @ Jul 25 2016, 11:20 AM)
dafuq!!??
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Kalau ko tak.pancut nanti ko akan jadi bahan ketawa.
Tapi dia akan gunakan minyak lintah bagi rasa kebas.

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QUOTE(Dominic Toretto @ Jul 25 2016, 11:07 AM)
Basically, yrut batin = hand job?
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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 25 2016, 11:54 AM)
Kalau ko tak.pancut nanti ko akan jadi bahan ketawa.
Tapi dia akan gunakan minyak lintah bagi rasa kebas.
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I think urut batin are not to make pancut, but rather to improve blood circulation like Uncle Joe mentioned.

But because some people cannot tahan, so they TERpancut while being massaged.

However got some ppl who somehow syok with the idea of pancut says urut batin must pancut wan.

Make sense?


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Dafuq massage also brin in religion..wat happen to /k nowadays
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QUOTE(party @ Jul 25 2016, 12:10 PM)
Dafuq massage also brin in religion..wat happen to /k nowadays
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Because female massat didi male = Haram.

But biasalah some people when talk about religion straight away essay-mode-on.
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QUOTE(Necrosis @ Jul 25 2016, 12:09 PM)
I think urut batin are not to make pancut, but rather to improve blood circulation like Uncle Joe mentioned.

But because some people cannot tahan, so they TERpancut while being massaged.

However got some ppl who somehow syok with the idea of pancut says urut batin must pancut wan.

Make sense?
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Some tukang Thailand will offer bukan bukan when stim already. Jilat itu rm50,jilat ini rm80.

Dont bring such thick wallet when go massage.dont ever go massage at nearby. U go massage jauh jauh. 30km-40km away. Imagine u go massage nearby (let say atas kedai makan),next time u go makan with your famili or wife ...and those tukang urut saw u yhere confirm rahsia bocor.)

Certain tukang urut will use genie and download to your body during massage. Once succesfull install your body will more lagged. More heavy like usual.
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post Jul 25 2016, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ Jul 25 2016, 12:38 PM)
Some tukang Thailand will offer bukan bukan when stim already. Jilat itu rm50,jilat ini rm80.

Dont bring such thick wallet when go massage.dont ever go massage at nearby. U go massage jauh jauh. 30km-40km away. Imagine u go massage nearby (let say atas kedai makan),next time u go makan with your famili or wife ...and those tukang urut saw u yhere confirm rahsia bocor.)

Certain tukang urut will use genie and download to your body during massage. Once succesfull install your body will more lagged. More heavy like usual.
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That sounds like hanky-panky disguised as urut batin.

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Urut batin MENURUT pengalaman pengunjung-pengunjung pusat urut di sekitar Lembah Klang, kaedah urutan batin yang ditawarkan di rumah berkenaan sebenarnya adalah khidmat melakukan onani.

“Bezanya ia dilakukan menggunakan tangan tukang urut wanita sehingga pelanggan khususnya lelaki, mencapai klimaks dan mengeluarkan air mani,” akui lelaki yang hanya mahu dikenali sebagai Man, 29, yang tidak menafikan sekadar mencuba-cuba urutan batin yang sering disebut teman-temannya.

Menurut Man, urutan batin merupakan satu perkhidmatan yang khusus, bukan sebahagian daripada pakej urutan badan dan lain-lain.“Pusat urut itu melabel perkhidmatan itu sebagai urut batin ketika menawarkannya,” tambah Man.

Bagaimanapun, pakar urut tradisional yang sudah bertahun-tahun melakukan urutan pemulihan tenaga batin menegaskan urutan sebenar tidak melibatkan pengeluaran air mani.

Read more: http://hmetroo.blogspot.my/2014/01/hukum-u...l#ixzz4FOk3Tmlb
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