Is the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 already available in our market?

If it is not, does any of the vendors out there have any news when can it be available?

starting 17.

wow just wow.

Do you mean 2017?

nope rim inch.

they start with 17 inch. Compared to PS3, which is 15 inch

already available at quick save auto boutique..17inch above only. you can see them on their fb

ok, thanks.

PS4 not produce 215/50/17 yet, only 45 series & below

http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-pilot-sport-4

This post has been edited by jemmi: Aug 1 2016, 12:29 PM

yeah the civic 2016 size

I was in tears too.... PS4 is even better than super sport in some situations

Probably in the wet cos the PSS is more optimized for the dry performance. Plus maybe fuel economy...
How wide is the Civic's rim? If minimal 7.5jj then can try 235/45/17 which is about the same diameter with 215/50/17 but wider. If still want to use the same size, then try Continental CSC5, pretty damn good tire also.

CSC5 is nearly likePrimacy HP, excellent performance but fast Finish. 6 months to 1 year if daily use.

This post has been edited by jemmi: Aug 22 2016, 02:09 PM

CSC5 is much higher than Primacy HP in terms of performance category, similar or even higher than PS3 (or on par with the new PS4). I've used it since Oct last year and still very thick despite occasional spirited driving. I think it should last around 40k km which can be 3+ years for me.

My officemate driving 308T with CSC5, daily drive to office from Sri Damansara to Shah Alam & weekend to Ipoh, only last for 8/9 months. Latest the news, the new (One month old) CSC5 koyak at Guthrie Highway(hangus RM650). He just found in UK user tyre review the wear for CSC5 among the fastest 55% compare with Michelin Primacy HP(Audi OEM tyre) at 76%. refer - http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Continen...t-Contact-5.htm

Refer from UK user tyre review:
In performance category CSC5 on par with Goodyear Efficientgrip Performance/Michelin Primacy 3ST & below Goodyear Assy3 & Michelin SuperSport. See the average chart, not from single user experienced(bias).

This post has been edited by jemmi: Aug 24 2016, 03:45 PM

PS4 is under the same category like CSC5, but Michelin wants to beat it.

Michelin Super Sport is a whole different category, PS4 is more for normal users with enthusiastic driving.

Anyway here are 2 references for you guys to consider :
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/news/miscellan...-miles-further/

http://www.michelin.co.uk/GB/en/tyres/prod...rt-4.html#tab-2

Hmm but for me the CSC5 seems reasonably lasting, still look very good after more than 10k km, no chipping yet as well despite me pushing them quite hard occasionally in the corners. Of course for tires of this level of performance, my expectation is only 30-50k km max. You cannot expect it to be very long lasting like reaching 70-100k kms coz it still needs to use relatively softer compounds to give that extra grip performance. The only concern is sidewall cracking coz got inputs from a tire sifu in ZTH forum that there are reports of it having sidewall cracking.

No, CSC5 is UHP/Max performance class already which is 1 or 2 level above GY Efficient Grip/Primacy 3ST. CSC5 is on par with F1 and PS3/PS4, almost PSS level. Continental line up which is on par with Efficient Grip or 3ST is the Premium Contact or Max Contact, which is mid level comfort performance category.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Aug 23 2016, 04:32 PM

From my officemate 308T user, the CSC5 manage to go 9,500-13,500km(only two times). I read the same feedback from most user in UK user review.

My previous PS3 manage to go 45k+ km(nearly 2 years) with 3-5mm thread when changing to 3ST(waiting PS4) . I feel PS4 could go to 55k+ km.

10-13k km is way too short for this tire. Maybe your friend drives very aggressively and whacks corners like nobody's business! Or something wrong with the car's alignment. I also read those reviews in the UK website, not all claim that short even though many says not lasting as long as other normal tires (but like I said that is expected for tires of this performance level). Mine surely will last more than 35k kms based on my observation now after almost 1 year using it.

My current Michelin 3st after 3 months(10k km) nearly 1/2 tread finish. I also feel cannot last more than 25k km even though UK user review chart it show treadwear better than CSC5.

u serious or not bro?
my 3st 20k still very new..at least 80-90%

Even cheapo tyres don't do that badly...what car are you driving?

Are your air pressures correct?

Alignment ok?

You go track run often?

Yeah something wrong there. The 3ST should last quite long, I expect at least 50-60k km, surely should be more than PS3. Maybe caused by one or more things that mentioned in the post above.