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 LYN Official Perodua Bezza Club V1, The game changer

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post Aug 1 2016, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(mywingame @ Aug 1 2016, 02:10 PM)
So far any manual transmission driver here? i heard they improved the synchomesh for MT variant
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Need advice from Bezza Manual user as well. I have bad experience with previous Perodua MT car (Myvi, Alza) which feel very rubberish and not nice at all (compared to GETRAG unit from Iriz). Appreciate Manual User feedback.

Also, what is the RPM for Manual transmission when running in 5th gear at 110kmh?

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post Aug 1 2016, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(mywingame @ Aug 1 2016, 03:19 PM)
Based on carlist they said the Manual version not longer rubberish feel, but I don't see a real driver stating this yet...

Yeah the RPM, really interested to know... with MT I believe the power is a lot better because you have the full control over the transmission biggrin.gif
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Yeah, don't want to repeat the scenario where I bought Saga BLM MT with the rubbish Aichi Kikai gearbox without knowing that the RPM at 110kmh is already 3700rpm and noisy like hell. vmad.gif

Well, I don't expect the power is better as it is using electronic throttle, not cable. You won't be getting the DIRECT power based on your pedal position.
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post Aug 1 2016, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 1 2016, 04:39 PM)
my cousin has an axia MT that this bezza are based on and I have the iriz MT.

I don't think you would be very happy.

iriz is tune for fun but proton reputation and conti parts means it is expensive and probably aren't long lasting.

but you're get a stiff chassis as its high tenstile steel that is seven time? stiffer

while axia  steering is heavy while slow, Honda CR-Z have a steering that light at slow but provides almost no feedback, in Kia eps you have to push buttons to choose the heaviness of comfy or sports.  the ZF source EPS in iriz is none of that.

the axia would not move by just releasing the clutch. infact the clutch doesn't communicate at all. it's either open or close and no in between.
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Hi darth5zaft, thanks a lot for your info.

So far how is your review regarding the Iriz MT as a real owner? I kinda still have some hope on the upcoming Persona (which will be based on Iriz platform) due to the strong chassis, safety features and handling.

But having said that, I am just looking for a car for normal usage. Seldom do aggressive driving, just aim for fuel saving and practicality and long term low cost maintenance. Hence, which landed me towards the Bezza.

Perodua do not provide MT BEzza for test drive, it kinda bugs me on how it drive....
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post Aug 4 2016, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(xperiaVuser @ Aug 3 2016, 09:54 PM)
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Would you mind help to share the page in your Manual Handbook for the Gearbox Ratio for Manual Transmission? grin.gif
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post Aug 4 2016, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(xperiaVuser @ Aug 4 2016, 02:03 PM)
No gearbox ratio info unfortunately.. this is the closest

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This is the info which I needed. Thanks So much!
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post Aug 4 2016, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(mywingame @ Aug 4 2016, 03:26 PM)
This do give me an impression that 1.3 MT will have longer gear ratios... Hopefully the RPM is lower when cruising in highway at 5th gear
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At least the engine is quite refined and not noisy, even at high RPM say around 3400, it should be bearable. Wish it will be 3000 RPM....wish.gif

Unless you're talking about the super noisy CAMPRO, with crazy high 3700RPM at 110kmh. vmad.gif

Also, just realized that both the auto and manual gearbox are manufactured at Sendayan plant too by Akashi Kikai (a subcompany of Daihatsu). Not to be confused with Saga BLM MT supplier Aichi Kikai.

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post Aug 5 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(RANDHIS @ Aug 5 2016, 10:47 AM)
yes it is good looking, before i bought bezza i was digging alot of forum on iriz saga and persona, there was one person, he said; he cant even a peace of mind buying a new car, its like a waiting for a time bomb to explode, proton cars is good looking, more powerful (1.6l) and cheaper and even safer compared to perodua, but perodua cars is more reliable and less problems compared to proton.
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A first look at the new SaGa ==> I thought that I have seen similar design cues somewhere. and yes, the style has got those el-cheapo China made budget car style. The idea of making small size car to have those big luxury car silhoutte will definitely end up like this (look at the sloping boot). Yet I really amazed so many people say it's so good looking. Moreover, it is just a carried over model from the current Saga platform with some changes here and there. Again, it is still using the same CAMPRO engine (even with VVT) which is not refined and not fuel saving.

One could argue that Proton will put a lot of safety features in it. But at the end of the day, if the parts and fit finish is not good, you would be driving and cursing every day. Bezza safety is not that bad either. You won't need to change timing belt and you get a proven refined engine from Toyota.

Just my opinion.
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post Aug 12 2016, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(metaboy @ Aug 11 2016, 11:35 PM)
Hi Guys, whats the rpm reading @ 110km/h for auto and manual?
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110km/h in 5th gear for MT is at around 2700 RPM, according to a reviewer.
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post Aug 16 2016, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(xtremesportx @ Aug 16 2016, 09:00 PM)
Test driven the 1.3 advanced model. Love the smooth CVT and responsiveness of the engine.

The pick up is really good. Feels like a smaller Vios to me.

Drives way way better than the Iriz.

Given the price it's still be more worth it than the new Persona.
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Bezza is using conventional AT transmission, not CVT doh.gif
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post Sep 22 2016, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Sep 22 2016, 12:07 PM)
just got my white premium x manual trans yesterday! woohoo. feels more pickup than auto. now hunting for lug tray and visor.. but probably need to wait a month to arrive
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Mind to share more about the drive, clutch travel (bite point is tall or not?), gear change feel? RPM at 110kmh?

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