quite good hovering ma ... at least u held it well to not crash into anything .. not like me fly 4g3 crash everywhere .. hahahaha
btw .. your house very nice and big worr ... i like how its done up well

u have to go trial and error for the proportion pot .. just turn little by littlein 1 direction and see what are the changes
as for the gain .. its for the gyro sensitivity .. normally clockwise would increase sensitivity >> more sensitive to rotation motion and will try to counter it to stay in position (trying not to rotate)
however if your heli has lots of vibration then increasing the gain will make things worse most of the time

ya ... all it takes is PRACTICE
u damm brave hover the 450 inside house .. hahahahaha

if tail wagging then turn gain down .. ie. anti clock

definition of wagging is high speed left right movements ..
if its a slow lazy type left or right movement .. we call it drifting .. in that case u can try to turn the gain higher ie. clockwise

i fly mode 2 .. most malaysian flyers fly mode 1 coz most started from LAMAs which comes default in mode 1 mostly .. hahahahaa

yups .. kwai loh style
ez to learn for old fella like me ma .. hahaha

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Added on January 23, 2010, 5:19 pmsold off my 4g3 liau ...
no more super micro heli to play around with ...

This post has been edited by QiW: Jan 23 2010, 05:19 PM

let it go coz got nicer newer better small heli in the market maa ..
so better get something for it rather than later cannot get anything for it at all .. hahahahahaaa

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Added on January 23, 2010, 11:06 pmthe LAMA is a coaxial heli .. self stabilizing and there is nothing much u can learn from it besides orientation
if u think the extreme upgrades are worth it then go for it .. it prolly makes the heli look nicer .. handles maybe little better
and those extreme parts are not cheap at all .. google rc heli results from malaysia and u can get quite a number of heli sellers

This post has been edited by QiW: Jan 23 2010, 11:06 PM

the place i mentioned earlier got maa
the shop in times square on the 6th floor ..

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Added on January 24, 2010, 1:17 pmactually i am letting go my guruZ FP .. belt driven tail .. much better than the honeyBee FP with motor tail
but u will need a radio and receiver la .. hehehe

This post has been edited by QiW: Jan 24 2010, 01:17 PM

did i not mention u will NEED a RADIO and RECEIVER to fly the guruZ XEON FP ??
its much better to fly than a honeyBee coz its all separate components .. not all in 1 thing like honeyBee
pm me if u are interested still ..
radio + receiver set will cost u at least rm600 or so to buy NEW .. i not selling those .. hahaha

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Added on January 24, 2010, 7:19 pmfor beginners usually the LAMA or similar coaxials will get u hooked ... but those are sort of not up to rc heli level .. sorry to say

usually an FP which has much lower maintenance costs is adviced .. coz u will crash for sure
lesser parts to repair .. easier to set up .. and lower headspeed to minimise damage
honeyBee FP fits this perfectly .. except the radio that comes with it sucks .. and the 4n1 comtroller unit in the heli oso sucks .. its flyable and u can learn with it .. but the learning curve will be very difficult and hard ... this will lead to frustration and the feeling of wanting to give up
some ppl started with a CP like belt Cp (this one sucks big time) .. or other CPs .. Cps have higher headspeed .. more parts count and can be damaged easily .. therefore maintenance costs are quite high for beginners ..

so i would recommend .. FP helis for beginners >> honeyBee .. guruZ FP and other similar FPs
try not to go too small coz small is harder than big coz its highly sensitive and unstable compared to bigger ones .. hehehe

This post has been edited by QiW: Jan 24 2010, 07:19 PM

pm-ed u already ..

waaa ... still in biz but never reply a couple of sms that i sent him at all
what u order ?? 4G6 stuff ?? hehehe
1 thing u need to keep alot for the 4G6 is the feathering/rotor shaft .. the blades touch anything and that will be the 1st to bend coz so small and soft

yaa ... the best thing about this small little heli is MINIMUM damage
and its FAST and CAPABLE .. hahahaha

getting an ESKY might be a better option since parts are easier to obtain here .. mainly MAIN GEAR and BLADES most of the time

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Added on January 25, 2010, 11:08 pmthe 4g6 is way way easier to fly compared to the 4g3 according to RCG ppl who has both .. HH gyro and pitch tail .. much better than the rate gyro and motor tail for sure ... not to mention heavier and more stable too

This post has been edited by QiW: Jan 25 2010, 11:08 PM

here are some pics of the XEON FP ..
canopy paint peeling off kow kow and cracked abit ... i using those fluoro paint for better visibility thats prolly why paint dont stick well
other than that .. heli is healthy as a cow







using these batts


i have spare canopy and tail fin ... the horizontal tail fin was not fixed on coz i did not like it .. so boom supports oso never went on .. hahaha

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Added on January 26, 2010, 9:49 amtail drift abit quite common with the 4g6 .. afterall its a 4n1 and not a standalone gyro so performance will have limitation
but once u start FF and doing stuff for sure u will not notice the drift liau .. hover hover of coz can see the drift la .. hahaha

This post has been edited by QiW: Jan 26 2010, 09:49 AM

flight time for the xeon FP is MINIMUM 7-8mins .. after 8 mins i still find 11.2-11.5v in my batts .. hehehe

this FP batt placement is BIG HELI style one maa .. hahahaahaa

your budget is just about enuff to get u the FP i just SOLD (pending funds transfer completion)
futaba 6ex or a dx6i brand new ... and about a rm400ish heli .. hehehehe

unfortunately anything else is way beyond rm1k or even 2k .. for the exception of a belt CP which i totally advise against unless u just wanna hover
the other alternative would be a king2/king3 which is IMO a much better heli .. except the tail boom is too small .. hahahaha
king2 is slightly smaller than the belt CP ... costs slightly less than the BCP .. cheaper batts
both using the stock radio which does not help at all ..
radio is one thing u cannot save on .. buy the best u can afford

slowly build up your stuff ..
start with a good radio ... this helps u do adjustments and tuning which u WILL appreciate
then look around for the heli of your choice

mprasm's paper fold it up ??
not bad at all ... but i would choose brighter colours for visibility ..

i dont have a 4G6 .... yet
i heard LHS here selling rm1k+ laa ... totally not suitable for u coz u can so far just fly the LAMA coaxial
if u get the 4G6 u will crashing until your tears dry laa ... repairs bills will be so sky high u will wished u never taken up this hobby ...

get a SIMULATOR 1st ... then practice in the SIM .. after u can hover well in the SIM then can consider the 4G6 .. CONSIDER ahh .... does not mean u can definitely fly it even after u can fly in the SIM ... hehehehe

and YES ... u can do 3D stuff with it IF u have the SKILLS laa

edited for surprise purpose .. hahaha

This post has been edited by QiW: Jan 28 2010, 10:02 PM

need me to edit my posting or not then ?? hahahahaa

83 & 87 ... nice young couple la u guys ... hahahaa