There is no such thing as a perfect car. If u expect to buy a car with no problems, then ure in for a surprise. Best stick to public transport or walking.

And why should I have any regrets just because my car had some issues? Isn't that why we have warranties for? And if problems crop up and the manufacturer can resolve them quickly enough, then what's the big fuss except for time spent at the service centre?

Btw, what 140K+ 'investment' are you referring to anyway?

lol a car doesn't seems to be an investment

Actually if they are averaging 131ppm vs 500ppm Euro2 spec, I would consider that is quite good.  Too bad we don't have consumer or motoring association carrying out random sampling to inform us of the industry average.

I'm also a BHP user, unless its too out of the way.  One nice thing about the bigger fuel tank and increase fuel efficiency of this car, now I can get by only fueling up over the weekends and dont have to fill up at other random stations

yo guys.. thinking of getting this pedal lock:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2324118

can we use this? i rmb reading some1 say our remote start cannot have our pedal locked?
anyone can confirm this before i buy?

The compression ration ratings we see in our spec sheet are initial compression ratios and not final compression ratios taking in account boost.  For the 1.5T is considered pretty high at 10.6:1 which is why the car does not feel sluggish off the line without boost.  In the past many Turbo 4's were running ~8:1 compression ratios and felt quite laggy off the boost.

So the 1.5T's compression ratio is actually pretty high for a turbo car running 16.5 psi of max boost.  It was designed that way to be more efficient as well.  A little engineering marvel in terms of balancing thermal efficiency, high boost pressure, powerful and lightweight and compact.

Most owners will pump RON97 for Euro4 low sulfur grade which should prolong oil life and internal engine cleanliness.

I don't usually read forums unless I have issues. I speak from experience. I have all the marquee above & few more. very minor issues that I can just close my eyes & forget about it.

Bro, is 10:6:1 compression ratio same with 10:1?

According to ron vs compression chart, 10:1 need ron 100 but our civic can be pumped ron 91.

Guys, I totally agree with you. This car is a mess. I mean just today I found out that it corners absolutely FLAT! Why would anybody want that? And there's a light on the dashboard to tell you when you're accelerating too much - as if the ECO mode wasn't enough to slow us down! Furthermore who uses Cruise Control...nobody in Malaysia sticks to one speed no matter how far they drive isn't it? NOBODY!!

Don't get me started with the automatic features...I can never understand why people would want to have their lights on after they've stopped the car. Auto-start? Who warms their car nowadays??? Auto-lock?? I want to TOUCH MY REMOTE!!!
Look at this, another reason not to buy a Civic!

Simple, get out of this topic and dont come in here since you have so many negativities to complain about.

Its fine for us to discuss problems with our cars, but you do not need to come in here and talk shit about Honda and its cars.

Every manufacturer has its own problems to deal with.  If u have a honda and u hate ur car so much, sell it ..... or else deal with it.

Simple, get out of this topic and dont come in here since you have so many negativities to complain about.

Its fine for us to discuss problems with our cars, but you do not need to come in here and talk shit about Honda and its cars.

Every manufacturer has its own problems to deal with.  If u have a honda and u hate ur car so much, sell it ..... or else deal with it.

I think he was trying to be sarcastic la. Chill out... (i might be wrong)

Simple, get out of this topic and dont come in here since you have so many negativities to complain about.

Its fine for us to discuss problems with our cars, but you do not need to come in here and talk shit about Honda and its cars.

Every manufacturer has its own problems to deal with.  If u have a honda and u hate ur car so much, sell it ..... or else deal with it.

how do you guys find about the conti tires?
is it normal there is minimal tread at side tires?

I'm finding that the Conti tyres are quite good leh. The more I drive on it, the better it is - it's either that or i'm getting used to it's flaws already

Will wait for PS4 to launch before changing

Aiyoo! Read carefully. He supports us la. He is just being sarcastic to the earlier comment. All the points raised above are POSITIVE. 

Hahaha..yup He  point out the FEATURES! Which is consider Positive unless its not working as intended.

But if he own the car its quite arrogant if someone said just sell it and don't come in this forum anymore if all what he did just make a complaint.

Reason for complaint so that many ppl will aware  so can highlight the issue n raise a complaint for betterment so that HONDA will step up to resolve this and in the end I believe it will benefit the user like us..

If you realise, most people will only voice out publicly on car with problems. But large chunk actually have no problem and enjoying the car silently, myself included. People really need to control info intake nowadays...

Low grade fuels have negative impact on Nikasil coated engine liners and components.  Nikadil coating is a technological advancement offering low friction and heat with low tolerances.  But even German engineers got it wrong with durability with high sulfur fuel.

The 1.5T uses a special low friction ion coated piston rings for the same purpose.  It's long term effects with low grade high sulfur content fuel remains to be seen.

Some basic info on the various fuel standards FYI

Euro 1 – 1992 (sulphur content 2,500ppm)
Euro 2 – 1996 (500ppm)
Euro 3 – 2000 (350ppm)
BHP RON95 – 131 ppm
Euro 4 – 2005 (50ppm)
Euro 5 – 2009 (10ppm)
Euro 6 – 2014 (very low)

Ppm = quantity of sulphur (mg) in 1kg of fuel

Negative effects of Euro 2 fuel:

1) High sulphur content produces significant amount of Sulphur Dioxide resulting in Sulphurous and Sulphuric Acids
2) The presence of the sulphuric acids cause:-
3) Contamination of crankcase oil / lubricating oil
4) Corrosion of engine components / parts
5) Catalytic converter is damaged and is unable to neutralise pollutants ( CO, NOx & Unburnt Fuel )
6) SOX contribute to the high emission of particulate matter.
7) Decreases the cetane number resulting in incomplete combustion and the formation of soot.
8) Injector tips are obstructed with the formation of soot.
9) Injection spray pattern is altered resulting in incomplete combustion.
10) Significant reduction in the lifetime of the engine.
11) Increases maintenance costs due to frequent replacement of engine oil and servicing parts
Benefits of Euro 4 fuel:

1) Insignificant formation of SOx /acidic compounds
2) Decrease of particulate matter/Black smoke (if petrol engine got black smoke, straight masuk kilang overhaul) 
3) Reduces output of Oxides of Nitrogen
4) Increase cetane number result in complete/efficient combustion (see comment below)
5) No unburned fuel (not relating to sulfur PPM but the effects of inefficient combustion)
6) CO is easily converted into CO2
7) Engine lubricating oil less prone to acidification
8) Reduces engine component corrosion (if engine oil not up to temperature due to frequent short drives or a lot of stop/go traffic condition, water content will chain up with the sulfur elements creating sulfuric acid. Driving up to temperature will cause the water content in oil sump to evaporate)
9) Increase of lifespan of catalytic converter
10) Engine less noisy (this one not applicable)
11) Engine develops more power (very unlikely, marginal at best)
12) Increase of lifetime of the engine (debatable)
13) Increase in fuel economy (true for diesel, for petrol is more likely due to better additives used in RON97)
14) Reduces maintenance cost due to insignificant contamination of engine oil and service interval can be increased
15) Eco friendly fuel (if lead footed and always traffic jam, not much difference lor....)

We should be getting Euro 4 RON95 fuel in a couple of years which isn't too far away to cause significant detriment to our car engines using current Euro 2 RON95 fuel. But in the meantime, I would strongly recommend BHP RON95. It's the best RON95 fuel in the market currently. Some batches of BHP's RON95 fuel was even tested to be only 12ppm which is almost Euro 5 standard.

Actually if they are averaging 131ppm vs 500ppm Euro2 spec, I would consider that is quite good.  Too bad we don't have consumer or motoring association carrying out random sampling to inform us of the industry average.

I'm also a BHP user, unless its too out of the way.  One nice thing about the bigger fuel tank and increase fuel efficiency of this car, now I can get by only fueling up over the weekends and dont have to fill up at other random stations

I'm finding that the Conti tyres are quite good leh. The more I drive on it, the better it is - it's either that or i'm getting used to it's flaws already

Will wait for PS4 to launch before changing

i'm not sure in tires but the tread seems like wearing out quite fast

my next replacement will be RE003 or PS3 but have to depends on my budget. dont think PS4 will come any soon

Sudah unofficially dijual, i dah tanya 

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4011464

No 215/50 R17 though