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 LYN Official FIA F1 World Championship 2007 Thread, Another McLaren 1-2

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post Apr 17 2007, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(edison92133 @ Apr 17 2007, 06:22 PM)
yesterday night i wrote an e-mail to astro to complaint about the F1 commentators they are using and ask them to be replace with Martin Brundle and James Allen

just now astro called me and let me know they will ask their sport section to improve their commentators

i dun think there will be any difference

so guys, to all that are watching F1 through astro, please write an e-mail to complaint as well, hopefully the more people complaint, the more pressure there will be to replace their commentators

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heheh... starsports is a channel not under the management of Astro. I think they are either British or European channel.
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post Apr 23 2007, 12:46 AM

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I'll mention this again. In daytime, the sun is way up there, out of driver view.

In night time, the high power lightsource will all be in driver's line of sight no matter how high you put. This means extream glaring for drivers.

Bernie is out of his mind already. He seems to be putting driver's safety behind his money making priorities.
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post Apr 26 2007, 11:42 PM

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it's amazing how teams could come up with so many amazing ideas back then.

I think we're missing all the fun in modern F1. Everything's so strict from the wings right to the tiny spring on the car's floor. In a way, it's stupid and ridiculous.

It's hard to imagine F1 cars being the most efficient these days when rules are trying kill all efficiency in an F1 cars and whats more, when your competitor is faster than you, use the rule to slow them down, and further handicap the F1 car along the way....
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post May 5 2007, 11:28 PM

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It's been so long i almost forgot where F1 left off at the last race... sweat.gif

I don't think honda elephant wing will work. William's walrus nose didn't work either. These cars has been so fine tune to the normal design that any radical new aero concept won't fit in.

McLaren wing, i suspect it might have something to do with trying to generate more downforce when running in the dirty air of another car infront, and so probably they now decide its worth trying it out in actual race. Just a wild guess
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post May 7 2007, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ May 7 2007, 02:07 AM)
Spain is live right?
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Qualifying would clash with their news slot if i'm not mistaken

race would clash with their so call "prime time"... but I still hope they would show the race live.
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post May 7 2007, 04:16 PM

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I have the same feeling too rtm might delay it all the way to 12am in newspaper schedule (and air it at 1am vmad.gif) again... although i still don't understand what's so special about their night timeslot that they have to push it until 12am. They rather show black & white movie that F1...
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post May 7 2007, 08:19 PM

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There's a new chicane just before the final fast sweeping turn.

All drivers will have to find new setup, which I think they already roughly figure out during last week testing.

I hope there will be more overtaking this time. In the past, the two last fast corner makes it hard for the car behind to have enough grip to follow closely the car at the front (aero problem) to make a pass on the straight
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post May 8 2007, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(-K3N- @ May 8 2007, 02:10 AM)
If not mistaken theres 1 corner dat allow cars to get closer bcoz the speed is slower.
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yep. cars cannot get close enough through high speed turns...

but problem is after that still have the final fast corner. If me, i'd rather straight replace the final corner with that chicane tongue.gif
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post May 9 2007, 08:44 PM

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Kimi did mention ferrari improvement, especially on their one lap performance. He mention that it is important as its very hard to overtake so its better to go off at the front.

this track is very hard to overtake.

Alonso may or may not try to win. He is the kind of guy who thinks about the bigger picture, the championship. He won't risk touching other's wheel and end up in the grass. Hamilton may surprise us, he got nothing to lose anyway.
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post May 10 2007, 10:06 AM

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The main reason why cars couldn't overtake is due to the aero changes FIA introduce when they raised the front wing to reduce aero efficiency. Now they want to reduce aero efficiency again and wants to improve overtaking? they are crazy

F1 cars are meant to go fast, and they are suppose to be the most expensive car on the planet. FIA is spoiling everything...
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post May 10 2007, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ May 10 2007, 02:14 PM)
well i beg to differ, the main culprit is the rear wing and additional winglets just like in the article quoted by virgil. You see, a F1 car left a turbulence or dirty air at the rear of the car. As a result, the following cars' aerodynamic setup is compromised.
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My point of view was base on having more effective aero to be able to generate more front end downforce when running in this turbulence air. tongue.gif When FIA raised the front wing and brought forward the rear wing, it is to reduce aero efficiency, and that also mean a much more worse efficiency when running in a car's turbulence air.

If their solution is aiming at reducing the turbulence, then maybe they should look back at last year's split rear wing hmm.gif ... though its ugly as hell.

I agree with verx that removing those small winglets won't change thing much. They are more to directing airflow around the cars. At the end, its the rear wing that cause the turbulence.
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post May 10 2007, 07:48 PM

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^yep, i agree...

The ground effect, if I'm not mistaken, was banned long long time ago, before the front/rear wings was intro to F1. They are so effective that time that it was ban to make sure F1 is not too technical and lose the driver factor... Now they will ban TC too, for the same reason.

No TC + slick would have been great biggrin.gif
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post May 10 2007, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ May 10 2007, 08:43 PM)
Wings first appear on a F1 car in 1968 season. Ground effect was introduced in Formula One mid to late 70's.
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oh.. my mistake then... must have mix up the time line. The site I read talk about ground effect right to it being banned before talking about wings, lol...
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post May 11 2007, 07:47 PM

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It's all about the money. As long as its alot, even night race also possible.

This people put the driver life in harms mode just for their own amusement. Maybe the event manager should try driving a car at 300kmph facing a glaring evening sun shining right onto his retina. That's how it will be for the drivers driving with the lights all over.

Damn idiots.
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post May 12 2007, 12:29 PM

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That wing looks very very huge blink.gif
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post May 12 2007, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(-= Virgil =- @ May 12 2007, 03:08 PM)
Hey guys, i wanted to clear some rumor floating around the net on the new McLaren rear wings...

McLaren's Flexing Wings

If the wing are really flexing downwards, then how in the world did they pass the FIA test before letting it loose on the circuit?!

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the wing center is not attach to anywhere. I think they sure tend to bend. That design is not easy to not move anyway, they should have known it earlier...
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post May 12 2007, 06:34 PM

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I dont think ferrari did any serious attempt at simulating a qualifying run with soft tires and low fuel.... and I'm very uneasy about it. They shouldn't be too confident to the point of not testing that 1 lap quali run...

If they did, then they're doomed sweat.gif
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post May 12 2007, 09:16 PM

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Holy cow. Just .030 faster than Alonso. I think Massa is about same fuel load as Alonso... Kimi and Hamilton might be few laps more... At least I hope so for Kimi
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post May 13 2007, 10:09 PM

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What a shame Kimi car broke down.

Congratz to Massa. Alonso wrong strategy to go for harder tyre on his second stint.

And the race was boring. So much for the new chicane no car manage to make use of it at all doh.gif
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post May 14 2007, 10:18 AM

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I think Alonso car perform quite well, whether or not it was damage. His blunder was to take the harder tyres on his 2nd stint and completely lost the race. It's strange, knowing that it's 99% chances he or anyone at the front is unable to overtake on track.

About the first turn, I think Massa was already in the inside of the turn, there's really nowhere to go. Alonso went in too deep on turn 1 which was unnecessary because there's turn 2 ahead and he should go on the inside of turn 2 instead of trying to squeeze Massa in turn 1. Or probably it was just a driver error. I mean the line Alonso took is really strange...

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