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LYN Official FIA F1 World Championship 2007 Thread, Another McLaren 1-2
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TSlinkinstreet
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 Apr 8 2007, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Apr 8 2007, 05:58 PM) tis Lewis is really good considering it is his second outing. Kimi has a lot of work to do, in this case input. If he yearns to be a champion, he got to work hard for it just ike what Schuey and Alonso did. Driving is never enough. No doubt, he is a fast driver but helping the team to setup and giving input is utterly important too. Hopes he realised that. I wld loves to see a new F1 chmapion this year for a change. Btw, good job by McLaren. the look on Kimi's face when they were readying to go up to the podium worth a thousand words. To be beaten in a slower car and left 20++ seconds behind the leaders can gut you. |
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SUSRaikkonen
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Apr 8 2007, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Apr 8 2007, 05:56 PM) jangan cakap besar beb, sim tu sim, racing ni lain. Bukan macam ko dapat apa2 pun kalau menang. diorang ni dibayar berjuta2, pressure banyak Chill out..have a cookie...  Why so emo?  This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Apr 8 2007, 06:06 PM |
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TSlinkinstreet
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Apr 8 2007, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 06:01 PM) Chill out..have a cookie...it's a joke Why so emo? takder, aku saja nasihat, takut takbur. |
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kapitan
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Apr 8 2007, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 05:51 PM) That's why Massa needs a lot to learn. Even Brundell knew what to do: Something like that. Hecks...even I know what to do. I'm a SIM driver you know    Once you overtook the car and the corner is on your right and he's on your left...nothing he can do about it. Just shut the door on him. What u said is true regardless of what... MSC show Massa the way last season liao... Mayb Massa too nervous and forgot already.... |
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athlon
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 Apr 8 2007, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Apr 8 2007, 05:32 PM) The MAIN problem with Massa is not speed related. Its something to do with his consistency. He has been with Ferrari for 3rd season already. Come on!!! 1 season as test driver and 2nd season as driver. His win in Brazil last year shows he's capable, no doubt... but he hasnt been able to win or drive consistently. it's true that Mass still lack of consistency and today's race had shown that Massa still fresh and easy to get panic..... compare with Kimi or Alonso, there's still way to go for him to beat them... not to mention them, he's still not up to Hamilton pace... no doubt i'm ferrari fan also, but got to admit that Massa does alot of talking nowadays but no action or improvement being shown... a big dissappointment with him in today's race whereby he's not blocking any of the McLaren drivers but Kimi at the start... i believe he's too eager to beat Kimi until he has forgotten about the two McLaren drivers but anyway, it had been passed and hopefully Ferrari will come back to the front 1-2 finish in Bahrain and coming races..... |
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SUSRaikkonen
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Apr 8 2007, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Apr 8 2007, 06:05 PM) takder, aku saja nasihat, takut takbur. Simpan je lah untuk diri sendiri ya dik. This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Apr 8 2007, 06:36 PM |
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kapitan
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Apr 8 2007, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE(athlon @ Apr 8 2007, 06:07 PM) it's true that Mass still lack of consistency and today's race had shown that Massa still fresh and easy to get panic..... compare with Kimi or Alonso, there's still way to go for him to beat them... not to mention them, he's still not up to Hamilton pace... no doubt i'm ferrari fan also, but got to admit that Massa does alot of talking nowadays but no action or improvement being shown... a big dissappointment with him in today's race whereby he's not blocking any of the McLaren drivers but Kimi at the start... i believe he's too eager to beat Kimi until he has forgotten about the two McLaren drivers but anyway, it had been passed and hopefully Ferrari will come back to the front 1-2 finish in Bahrain and coming races..... Not true leh... his driving did improved. Just looks at his qualifying n free testing time. What didnt improve is his mentality and confidence/nerves. |
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athlon
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Apr 8 2007, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Apr 8 2007, 06:09 PM) Not true leh... his driving did improved. Just looks at his qualifying n free testing time. What didnt improve is his mentality and confidence/nerves. agreed with his improvement in both sessions but not long run and yeah... the mentality and confidence to fight from start to end... he still lack of that... it's very important for a driver to have that kind of spirit... anyway, just my 2 cents... |
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kapitan
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Apr 8 2007, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(athlon @ Apr 8 2007, 06:14 PM) agreed with his improvement in both sessions but not long run and yeah... the mentality and confidence to fight from start to end... he still lack of that... it's very important for a driver to have that kind of spirit... anyway, just my 2 cents... I dont mean only in Malaysia. I mean his overall driving improved by huge step over last year starting from last year Brazil GP. He is fast. Just not tough enough. He still like a boy lar. Eager to win, but when something like today strike, never made any ammend to fight back and regain as many points as possible. He also not daring enough to cut into others lanes. All these little bits adds up too, whether you bcome a world champion like Apelonso or the rest of the packs. |
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athlon
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 Apr 8 2007, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE(kapitan @ Apr 8 2007, 06:22 PM) I dont mean only in Malaysia. I mean his overall driving improved by huge step over last year starting from last year Brazil GP. He is fast. Just not tough enough. He still like a boy lar. Eager to win, but when something like today strike, never made any ammend to fight back and regain as many points as possible. He also not daring enough to cut into others lanes. All these little bits adds up too, whether you bcome a world champion like Apelonso or the rest of the packs. true true... the brave to overtake others still not been seen in his driving.... |
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Hornet
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Apr 8 2007, 06:34 PM
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My driver of the day goes to Lewis Hamilton. He was the only one fighting at the top...
Alonso had it easy from the start, the moment Hamilton held up Massa and Kimi, alonso already had the entire race on his side. He just had to bring the car home, thats all, which is what he's been doing for the pass 2 years anyway.
Massa looks like he can't stay focus whenever he's behind other cars. He got of slow, slowed too early into turn one and there was no attempt to fight into turn 1. Kimi got held up and both Ferrari are compromised. After his accident, seems like massa's confidence got dented more than his car is, can't even beat BMW
Kimi didn't quite fight alot too anyway. And Ferrari team mess his strategy up, unnecessarily fueled him up heavier and cost him to exit behind Fisi
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SUSRaikkonen
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Apr 8 2007, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Apr 8 2007, 06:34 PM) My driver of the day goes to Lewis Hamilton. He was the only one fighting at the top... Alonso had it easy from the start, the moment Hamilton held up Massa and Kimi, alonso already had the entire race on his side. He just had to bring the car home, thats all, which is what he's been doing for the pass 2 years anyway. Massa looks like he can't stay focus whenever he's behind other cars. He got of slow, slowed too early into turn one and there was no attempt to fight into turn 1. Kimi got held up and both Ferrari are compromised. After his accident, seems like massa's confidence got dented more than his car is, can't even beat BMW Kimi didn't quite fight alot too anyway. And Ferrari team mess his strategy up, unnecessarily fueled him up heavier and cost him to exit behind Fisi Kimi did say that the team need to compromise a lot (regarding the engine thing) no speed and all. New engine in Bahrain. Kimi on pole this time and not Massa |
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bysquashy
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Apr 8 2007, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 06:38 PM) Kimi did say that the team need to compromise a lot (regarding the engine thing) no speed and all. New engine in Bahrain. Kimi on pole this time and not Massa "Raikkonen", I'd said it once more, wait till Bahrain |
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SUSRaikkonen
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Apr 8 2007, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Apr 8 2007, 06:39 PM) "Raikkonen", I'd said it once more, wait till Bahrain Hope your predictions wrong this time I'm just being optimistic. Don't like it? Sue me Can't wait to add another throphy for my siggy  This post has been edited by Raikkonen: Apr 8 2007, 06:43 PM |
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athlon
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Apr 8 2007, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 06:40 PM) Hope your predictions wrong this time Next time your face will be like Massa's face I'm just being optimistic. Don't like it? Sue me whatever and however... i believe Ferrari still the fastest and reliable... but the most important is that they must have the LUCK on their side.... |
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kapitan
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Apr 8 2007, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Apr 8 2007, 06:34 PM) My driver of the day goes to Lewis Hamilton. He was the only one fighting at the top... Alonso had it easy from the start, the moment Hamilton held up Massa and Kimi, alonso already had the entire race on his side. He just had to bring the car home, thats all, which is what he's been doing for the pass 2 years anyway. Massa looks like he can't stay focus whenever he's behind other cars. He got of slow, slowed too early into turn one and there was no attempt to fight into turn 1. Kimi got held up and both Ferrari are compromised. After his accident, seems like massa's confidence got dented more than his car is, can't even beat BMW Kimi didn't quite fight alot too anyway. And Ferrari team mess his strategy up, unnecessarily fueled him up heavier and cost him to exit behind Fisi Both McLaren were good today esp in 1st corner and 2nd corner. There's nothing Raikonen can do with that kind of fuel load. I tot the team would put him on medium compound as the fuel load was enormous but they didnt. |
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Hornet
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Apr 8 2007, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 06:38 PM) Kimi did say that the team need to compromise a lot (regarding the engine thing) no speed and all. New engine in Bahrain. Kimi on pole this time and not Massa Yeah, thats one positive thing out of this race. Pass 3 weeks we've been worried about his engine. and finally, it went through fine. A podium is better than engine burning in smokes QUOTE(kapitan @ Apr 8 2007, 06:46 PM) Both McLaren were good today esp in 1st corner and 2nd corner. There's nothing Raikonen can do with that kind of fuel load. I tot the team would put him on medium compound as the fuel load was enormous but they didnt. Yep. Both his 1st and 2nd should be hard with the extra fuel. Seems like our strategy went wrong after McLaren overtook both ferrari and ferrari had no answer to it. |
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SUSRaikkonen
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Apr 8 2007, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Apr 8 2007, 06:58 PM) Yeah, thats one positive thing out of this race. Pass 3 weeks we've been worried about his engine. and finally, it went through fine. A podium is better than engine burning in smokes Yep. Both his 1st and 2nd should be hard with the extra fuel. Seems like our strategy went wrong after McLaren overtook both ferrari and ferrari had no answer to it. Yup. Same points as Apelonso. All went wrong caused by the Brazillian kid |
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vin_ann
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Apr 8 2007, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(athlon @ Apr 8 2007, 06:44 PM) whatever and however... i believe Ferrari still the fastest and reliable... but the most important is that they must have the LUCK on their side.... yaya... 99% hardworks and 1% luck... without it, u cant score 100%... |
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bysquashy
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Apr 8 2007, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Apr 8 2007, 07:00 PM) Yup. Same points as Apelonso. All went wrong caused by the Brazillian kid We haven't started with name calling and you still insist on that? This will be very ugly you know. |
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