QUOTE(meonkutu11 @ Jul 19 2016, 12:09 PM)
I'm not quite understand categorization of the working ppl in term of upstream and downstream..
if working with operating company, for me yes, quite clear...
but let say for consultant company, Technip, Aker, SKP TLO, is there also division for upstream and downstream? I mean, formally/officially.
I know last time onshore engineers in TLO have either domestic or International project division.
Also for FPSO, they are consider as upstream? operations (US), Onshore Engineers (DS)?
Unfortunately there is a difference between Upstream and Downstream and it was mainly driven by the market boom 3-4 years ago. As a HR personnel, I'm struggling to maintain the category as the market is driving the separation of category. Companies compete for the talent and decided to pay extra 5k for a Process Engineer with a justification that this candidate will manage a Upstream Gas Separation project. Good for the talent market but bad for the industries.if working with operating company, for me yes, quite clear...
but let say for consultant company, Technip, Aker, SKP TLO, is there also division for upstream and downstream? I mean, formally/officially.
I know last time onshore engineers in TLO have either domestic or International project division.
Also for FPSO, they are consider as upstream? operations (US), Onshore Engineers (DS)?
As a company, if I don't follow the trend I will not be able to hire. We were fighting to maintain the similar base salary as downstream guy but increase the "Upstream allowance" to ensure the overall package is competitive. However the candidates are greedy too. They asked us to increase the base salary equivalent to "Upstream scale" and maintain our offered "Upstream" allowance. Nobody agreed to our proposal. NOBODY.. It not just impacting the technical role, the support/corporate role also impacted by the salary adjustment. HR, Contract, Procurement, Document Control, Admin, Project Secretary. As long they are involved in Upstream project, they demand big bucks.
Now in current market, nobody willing to pay additional or hire that particular talent as they are too expensive and the salary doesn't fit in the downstream business. Not just downstream business but also other industry.
Companies not willing to work together to manage this. Talent not matured enough to think for long term benefits. The whole industry just completely ignorant of this and just focus on who can pay the highest to bring in the talent. Everyone try to dominate and have a the biggest piece of pie in an already small pie. Hence the situation that we are in.
Jul 21 2016, 05:52 PM

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