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TSfrozenthrone
post Jan 18 2007, 01:53 PM, updated 19y ago

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rite now i'm searching a matx mobo to build my new rig...after googling many people recommend this mobo with overclocking ability which many m-atx mobo kennot....

product description n spec

The integrated nView technology allows the simultaneous use of two monitors while multi-streaming audio. Now you can watch movies on one screen while gaming away on another. Alternatively you can simply expand your desktop onto two screens in order to gain a more spacious overview of your computer's workspace. The possibilities for multi-display usage are infinite and bring about an entirely new computing experience. More comfort, more flexibility. 8 ports of USB 2.0 and 2 IEEE1394 (FireWire) ports offer the best high speed connections for peripherals such as digital video, audio and pictures. This is the quickest and easiest way to copy content to and from your digital camera or camcorder etc. The small mATX form factor allows the integration of the NF-M2 nView motherboard into very slim and sleek looking cases, letting you set up a full-scale multimedia system within your home. Purchase one of the many attractive cases available today and set up your AMD Live! complete home theater system today. Integrate the sleek profile and small footprint of these feature packed motherboard into a hi-fi stack and amaze your buddies with the array of options based on this motherboard. abit's patented Silent OTES(tm) heatpipe technology keeps your motherboard cool while keeping your system silent and secure from heat. With this evolution of the PC into a multipurpose/multimedia system, we are giving you the keys to migrate your PC into your living room or bedroom.

- AMD(R) Socket AM2 processors
- 1 x PCI-E x16, 1 x PCI-E x1, 2 x PCI
- DVI(tm) supports up to 1080i resolution
- nVidia(R) GeForce(R)6150/nForce(tm)430
- 4 x SATA 3 Gb/s RAID
- abit Silent OTES(tm) fanless cooling
- 4 DIMMs Dual DDR2 800
- 8 x USB 2.0, 2x IEEE 1394, nVidia(R) GbE LAN
- abit EQ(tm) hardware monitoring
- Integrated GeForce(R)6150 supports DirectX 9, Shader Model 3.0, nView
- 7.1 ch HD audio with optical S/P DIF In/Out
- mATX form factor 245 x 245 mm

quote from: oc.co.uk
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct....rodid=MB-110-AB

rite now waiting this mobo coming to our place...dunno if rite now the mobo already been selling at LYP.....

anyone already have or maybe plan to buy this mobo perhaps can give any opinion bout this mobo... notworthy.gif
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post Jan 18 2007, 03:38 PM

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I'm looking for this board too....
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post Jan 18 2007, 07:58 PM

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frozenthrone, u sure this board great?

I read around Rebels Haven forum and the board seem a "disaster".
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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jan 18 2007, 07:58 PM)
frozenthrone, u sure this board great?

I read around Rebels Haven forum and the board seem a "disaster".
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Give some links loo, this forum is a place for sharing... smile.gif
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post Jan 18 2007, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jan 18 2007, 07:58 PM)
frozenthrone, u sure this board great?

I read around Rebels Haven forum and the board seem a "disaster".
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Weird...so far i have heard good news only.....
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jan 18 2007, 08:00 PM)
Give some links loo, this forum is a place for sharing... smile.gif
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I expect people to google since I stated 'rebels haven".


Anyway, threads available here.
http://www.rebelshavenforum.com/sis-bin/ul...?ubb=forum;f=37
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post Jan 18 2007, 09:14 PM

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how about Biaostar -Force Series? they got m-ATX board too right?
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Biostar tforce series does have a m-ATX board but the specs isn't as good as the Abit above.
Overclockability is pretty good though.
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post Jan 19 2007, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jan 18 2007, 07:58 PM)
frozenthrone, u sure this board great?

I read around Rebels Haven forum and the board seem a "disaster".
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many review said this mobo is a great overclocker...with onboard 6150 also thumbup.gif
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does the one selling at pc-zone, this mobo here?? if i'm not mistaken it is sold at rm230...correct me if i'm wrong..
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QUOTE(awang @ Jan 19 2007, 11:55 AM)
does the one selling at pc-zone, this mobo here?? if i'm not mistaken it is sold  at rm230...correct me if i'm wrong..
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LOL no way it's that cheap...should be above RM300 easily since it retails USD89
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post Jan 19 2007, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(awang @ Jan 19 2007, 11:55 AM)
does the one selling at pc-zone, this mobo here?? if i'm not mistaken it is sold  at rm230...correct me if i'm wrong..
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maybe the one u saw is nfm2s..using onboard 6100..this one using 6150...i dun think the price will be cheap like dat...if the price rally 230..then really nice thumbup.gif
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post Jan 22 2007, 09:43 PM

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owh,hehe..my bad..i've been hoping to buy that board since i'm upgrading..but then it's not here yet, so getting another board instead
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Hi guys,

If you compare this Abit Mobo with other similar M-ATX from DFI, which would be better ? I'm also planning to build an AMD X2 3600+ but, still not sure which mobo is suitable. So far, from the description of TS, I think this mobo does have all the features that I need. Just to find some alternative, any of the DFI mobo is better than this mobo or non are as feature-rich ?
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So far I have not seen any impressive mATX from DFI, or probably nobody is really using it.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 23 2007, 07:40 AM)
So far I have not seen any impressive mATX from DFI, or probably nobody is really using it.
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actually ive never seen anyone on a DFI microatx board.
never even heared of it before,
never even seen one on sale in malaysia
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Jan 23 2007, 12:42 AM)
Hi guys,

If you compare this Abit Mobo with other similar M-ATX from DFI, which would be better ? I'm also planning to build an AMD X2 3600+ but, still not sure which mobo is suitable. So far, from the description of TS, I think this mobo does have all the features that I need. Just to find some alternative, any of the DFI mobo is better than this mobo or non are as feature-rich ?
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The AM2 mATX from DFI has ATi chipset i think...i havent heard a single review about it yet.

Anyway...even this Abit is hard to find too. I havent seen any shop selling it. Please post here if u have found it tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2007, 03:22 PM

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yeah, i am also looking for this mainboard. I am a bit 'rugi' after bought asus mATX nvidia 6150 chipset based. If this ABIT mATX provided a good option of overclocking, why not buying it. Also, it has heatpipe heatsink that can cool the onboard 6150 graphic and mosfets. Very nice!

I hope any forumer who spotted this mainboard at lowyat or nearby shop in Klang Valley, could share information in this thread.

This post has been edited by coolblade: Jan 23 2007, 03:27 PM
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post Jan 23 2007, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(coolblade @ Jan 23 2007, 03:22 PM)
yeah, i am also looking for this mainboard. I am a bit 'rugi' after bought asus mATX nvidia 6150 chipset based. If this ABIT mATX provided a good option of overclocking, why not buying it. Also, it has heatpipe heatsink that can cool the onboard 6150 graphic and mosfets. Very nice!

I hope any forumer who spotted this mainboard at lowyat or nearby shop in Klang Valley, could share information in this thread.
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off topic tongue.gif how is ur asus mobo perform in oc? urs MX or VM?...

maybe someone can do a bulk order.. smile.gif

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I didn't overclock because i am using stock heatsink. By the way, I prefer a stable mainboard, but I think you should search for a mATX that has good heatsink on the onboard graphic card and southbridge chipset such as ABIT mATX.

I am using the MX version, but I am a bit 'rugi' because it has no heatsink on the southbridge chipset. I touch a bit the chipset when the computer is turned on for several hours. It is HOT and I realized that I need a heatsink to cool it! But I will void the warranty if I do some modification.

So, I am looking for mainboard replacement after I got a decent PCIE graphic card for gaming. Maybe I able sell this mainboard to a potential buyer?

Oh yeah, I also thought if someone can do a bulk order of the abit NF-M2 nView. Just from what I read on other forums, it seems that picky in RAM modules. I just hope that my Kingston RAM is suitable for the ABIT m/board.

This post has been edited by coolblade: Jan 24 2007, 07:38 AM
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Hi guys, my supplier said new stocks for this NF-M2 nView has arrived. But I'm not sure izzit the same model that you guys mentioned. Its priced @RM 275.00 and recommended selling price @RM 300++

Is it with only 2 ram slot ? or it's actually dual channel X 2 slot per channel ?
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Jan 24 2007, 02:41 PM)
Hi guys, my supplier said new stocks for this NF-M2 nView has arrived. But I'm not sure izzit the same model that you guys mentioned. Its priced @RM 275.00 and recommended selling price @RM 300++

Is it with only 2 ram slot ? or it's actually dual channel X 2 slot per channel ?
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Thanks for the input man.

I think u should pay extreme attention to the mobo ur supplier is bringing. The nView version has 6150 chipset and has 4 RAM slots.

The 2 ramslot version is 6100 chipset...and it is actually manufactured by ECS's OEM.

In other words...choose carefully. Big difference between them. However, if u can really confirm it is nView 4 ramslots...i need one ASAP lol
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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jan 24 2007, 03:40 PM)
Thanks for the input man.

I think u should pay extreme attention to the mobo  ur supplier is bringing. The nView version has 6150 chipset and has 4 RAM slots.

The 2 ramslot version is 6100 chipset...and it is actually manufactured by ECS's OEM.

In other words...choose carefully. Big difference between them. However, if u can really confirm it is nView 4 ramslots...i need one ASAP lol
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Ok. I'll request for a pic of it, then try to upload here for u guys to evaluate.


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QUOTE(jy14 @ Jan 24 2007, 04:02 PM)
Ok. I'll request for a pic of it, then try to upload here for u guys to evaluate.
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Do it ASAP! I need teh mobo rclxm9.gif
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Hi guys,

I would like to know if any1 knows the comparison between the overclockability of this mobo with the Biostar's version, which are better ? I know the features of this mobo is much better than the Biostar, but it's ease of OC and how good it can OC, has it been compared ?

To davidletterboyz, I'm waiting for supplier's answer. Will inform you via PM once i get the answer.
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Jan 24 2007, 04:50 PM)
Hi guys,

I would like to know if any1 knows the comparison between the overclockability of this mobo with the Biostar's version, which are better ? I know the features of this mobo is much better than the Biostar, but it's ease of OC and how good it can OC, has it been compared ?

To davidletterboyz, I'm waiting for supplier's answer. Will inform you via PM once i get the answer.
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I'm quite certain that the tforce is good...but biostar's vdimm is limited to 2.2V and ram o/cing is not good enough.
Abit has good vdimm....but i dont know if it can do 300HTT+ like tforce.
Personally, i would choose tforce if i were to use low multi cpu (sempron64).
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jy14, I also interested in the mainboard! Show the mainboard ASAP smile.gif

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QUOTE(davidletterboyz @ Jan 24 2007, 05:19 PM)
I'm quite certain that the tforce is good...but biostar's vdimm is limited to 2.2V and ram o/cing is not good enough.
Abit has good vdimm....but i dont know if it can do 300HTT+ like tforce.
Personally, i would choose tforce if i were to use low multi cpu (sempron64).
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I'm planning to get X3600+, coz I can get it for RM 430.00. Good value ?


QUOTE(coolblade @ Jan 24 2007, 09:26 PM)
jy14, I also interested in the mainboard! Show the mainboard ASAP smile.gif
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Ok. Currently checked with supplier, they say they don't have this model yet, but will order it. If I want to DHL in here, will b more expensive, so not sure to wait for their new batch of order or just DHL in first.

At the moment, I've got between Abit nF-M2, DFI N2-M2, Biostar T550 and Biostar Tforce 6100 to choose from. I know the abit has complete all the features I need, but I want to OC oso, so not sure which is best solution.
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Jan 25 2007, 12:43 PM)
I'm planning to get X3600+, coz I can get it for RM 430.00. Good value ?
Ok. Currently checked with supplier, they say they don't have this model yet, but will order it. If I want to DHL in here, will b more expensive, so not sure to wait for their new batch of order or just DHL in first.

At the moment, I've got between Abit nF-M2, DFI N2-M2, Biostar T550 and Biostar Tforce 6100 to choose from. I know the abit has complete all the features I need, but I want to OC oso, so not sure which is best solution.
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ouch...that's gonna take some time to reach here. I need a mobo by this weekend.
Anyways..thanks for the update. smile.gif

BTW, go for dfi if u dont need built-in vga. Lots of vhtt and voltage tweaking there....
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Jan 25 2007, 12:43 PM)
I'm planning to get X3600+, coz I can get it for RM 430.00. Good value ?
Ok. Currently checked with supplier, they say they don't have this model yet, but will order it. If I want to DHL in here, will b more expensive, so not sure to wait for their new batch of order or just DHL in first.

At the moment, I've got between Abit nF-M2, DFI N2-M2, Biostar T550 and Biostar Tforce 6100 to choose from. I know the abit has complete all the features I need, but I want to OC oso, so not sure which is best solution.
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When you get the Abit nF-M2 nView box with complete package, could you scan the manual page regarding to RAM compability? Then you publish these scanned images here, just to let forumers here know which suitable RAM to be used with this mainboard.
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im oso looking for nView too.... but can get from singapore and it would cost around RM400+++

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QUOTE(jy14 @ Jan 24 2007, 02:41 PM)
Hi guys, my supplier said new stocks for this NF-M2 nView has arrived. But I'm not sure izzit the same model that you guys mentioned. Its priced @RM 275.00 and recommended selling price @RM 300++

Is it with only 2 ram slot ? or it's actually dual channel X 2 slot per channel ?
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Its this one
http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard...TYPE=Socket+AM2

A real wicked board from what I can tell, a quick look though the pdf manual reveals more overclock options than even my Tforce6100. There was a good review on it somewhere (forgot where), and its the best rated board on the link below

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=900405

Btw, if you can bring this board in I'll like to get one to upgrade, don't mind waiting since I already have my Tforce. Seems suppliers are having trouble bringing it in-shops in Penang told me the supplier is finding it near impossible to get it (a grand total on only TWO boards sold-demonsration models). About RM350+ here.
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Hi guys,

latest update on this board:

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/407856

I've started a thread for those interested to get this board. It'll be shipped in, instead of DHL, so the cost is reduced to @RM 330.00 and I'm only earning the RM5 for petrol for COD and collecting the stock from the supplier. So total RM 335.00 for 1 pc of the motherboard. For those who are interested please signup at the thread then I'll add you guys on the list, which will end this coming monday. Will then place the order if the MOQ of 4 ppl can be reached. But kindly do not FFK, coz I need to pay full payment upfront(trying to nego for no deposits).

For more info, just PM or SMS me(012 - 2691091 -- John). Stocks will arrive after CNY, so ang pau money should help you to afford this board. It's also cheaper than the usual retail price i guess. If DHL in, Abit not willing as the cost is gonna sky rocket the price to near RM 400. My supplier advice us to get it via shipment, and as usual full warranty (i think 2 years, to be confirmed) by local supplier, nonit to send to overseas.
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i found some nice info from anandtech

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cf...hreadid=1803985

i'm ended buying asus m2npv-mx....waiting for u guys to give nice review here...
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QUOTE(frozenthrone @ Feb 28 2007, 01:14 AM)
i found some nice info from anandtech

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cf...hreadid=1803985

i'm ended buying asus m2npv-mx....waiting for u guys to give nice review here...
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# ASUS M2NPV-VM (Global site) or ASUS M2NPV-VM (USA site)

The specifications are basically the same as ASUS A8N-VM CSM.

* Memory: DDR2 800/667/533 ECC and non-ECC, un-buffered memory, max 8GB
* Audio: AD1986A 5.1 Ch. HD, the same as A8N-VM CSM.
* BIOS: FSB from 200MHz to 400MHz. No HTT multiplier options. No CPU voltage adjustment. DDR2 Voltage: Auto (1.8V) or 1.9V. Actual overclocking is very POOR. Many report no booting at FSB 215MHz to 220MHz.
* Accessories: 1 x HDTV/AV/S output module (component, composite, S video). No S/PDIF module. 1 x IEEE1394a module.
* AMD LIVE(tm) ready


p/s: doesn't look impressive at all
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Feb 28 2007, 11:50 AM)
# ASUS M2NPV-VM (Global site) or ASUS M2NPV-VM (USA site)

The specifications are basically the same as ASUS A8N-VM CSM.

    * Memory: DDR2 800/667/533 ECC and non-ECC, un-buffered memory, max 8GB
    * Audio: AD1986A 5.1 Ch. HD, the same as A8N-VM CSM.
    * BIOS: FSB from 200MHz to 400MHz. No HTT multiplier options. No CPU voltage adjustment. DDR2 Voltage: Auto (1.8V) or 1.9V. Actual overclocking is very POOR. Many report no booting at FSB 215MHz to 220MHz.
    * Accessories: 1 x HDTV/AV/S output module (component, composite, S video). No S/PDIF module. 1 x IEEE1394a module.
    * AMD LIVE(tm) ready
p/s: doesn't look impressive at all
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yup i know sad.gif ...it is the only matx6150 mobo available on market...dats why i'm waiting for nview's user to give their review here
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QUOTE(frozenthrone @ Feb 28 2007, 07:57 PM)
yup i know sad.gif ...it is the only matx6150 mobo available on market...dats why i'm waiting for nview's user to give their review here
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Soon you'll be getting some review from the users of NF-M2 nView coz the item just arrived today and I have COD, and sent the rest via GDex to the buyers. New bulk has started and hope to get the mobo soon.

Current Status: Price negotiating, hope to lower price but bcoz of 2 reasons --

a. Supplier next normal stock order is in mid of april till end of April (long wait)
b. So, we'll choose the DHL way and hopefully ABIT has resumed production after the CNY break.

I'll try to maintain the price @RM 330.00 currently for COD and hopefully by DHL, item can reach within 1-2 weeks upon ordering.

As for those who claim that LYP will get the stocks, surely they are free to check out LYP and wait for their stock to arrive, but this 2nd bulk could be the last unless there are more demand in the next bulk, coz supplier might increase the MOQ for them to make more money themselves.

As for the 4 owners of the NF-M2 nView, kindly share your experience and also review on the board.


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Abit NF-M2 nView OEM Vista BIOS | Build 09/03/2007

Status : Untested (But, should be no problem)

Download : Attached File  NFM2_12_Vista.zip ( 307.58k ) Number of downloads: 27


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QUOTE(Jian_yi @ Mar 9 2007, 01:38 AM)
Abit NF-M2 nView OEM Vista BIOS | Build 09/09/2007

Status : Untested (But, should be no problem)

Download : Attached File  NFM2_12_Vista.zip ( 307.58k ) Number of downloads: 27

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Oh man, I can't use yet. Haf to get my board 1st. Will try later. Thanks alot bro.
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QUOTE(aliex87 @ Mar 31 2007, 12:09 PM)
dang........................
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anyone hitting more than 320fsb on this board? i read through most review that 320 is the max for this babe.

considering to get this mobo + brisbane 3600 + ddr667 1G, which cost the almost same as a C2D e6300 doh.gif
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ Apr 1 2007, 05:37 AM)
anyone hitting more than 320fsb on this board? i read through most review that 320 is the max for this babe.

considering to get this mobo + brisbane 3600 + ddr667 1G, which cost the almost same as a C2D e6300  doh.gif
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On stock voltages and settings I hit just over 250fsb on this board, only the board overclocked, processor, ram and hypertransport set on reduced multipliers. Haven't tried tweaking it to the max, having exams now.
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Edit : Moved here from jy14's NF-M2 nview bulk page

This was the most eagerly anticipated parcel for me in months. And inside was this
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And with anticipation I opened it up..
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Features
The NF-M2 nview is easily the most feature packed matx board I've ever seen, for full specifications visit http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/techsp...ies=1&model=327

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Abit has included a fairly standard package of cables and connectors
-1 PCI header with 2 UsB and 2 Firewire (which is odd, as there is only 1 firewire connection on the board)
-4 SATA cables
-1 ATA 133 cable
-1 floppy cable

Board layout

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The nview is one slick looking board, even without any UV reactive components. With a theme of black components on a blue PCB, IMHO this board makes quite a statement-"I mean business, no play play"

The board layout is decent, with just a few gripes. The ram slots are quite close to the CPU socket, meaning that there may be clearance issues with some CPU coolers. I'm going to use a Thermalright XP-120, it fits on this board in both orientations but not without mild issues. With the curved part of the heatpipe facing the back it presses against the capacitors next to the CPU bracket, and in the opposite direction it makes the first 2 ram slots unusable.

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Taking a peek under the Silent OTES reveals a typical 3 phase CPU power regulator and the Geforce 6150 integrated graphics. A minor issue here was the thermal pad under the MOSFET heatsink was not properly applied, and thermal transfer would be poor. Also, the heatpipe conducting heat from the NB only contacts the MOSFET heatsink by a rather small ammount of thermal paste. However, it does an adequete job of cooling the NB and MOSFETS silently, noticably better than the Biostar Tforce 6100 AM2 I was using previously. The board uses Rubycon capacitors typical of Abit after the mess over leaking/exploding capacitors during early socket A days; using electrolytic capacitors in the day of solid state capacitors is a bit strange though not much of an issue.

On the SB is a small but efficient heatsink, but the SB produces fairly little heat on this board. This turned out to be just as well, as when I looked under the heatsink I found (to my horror) that there was hardly any thermal paste under it-a single wipe with cotton and it was all gone. I quickly applied some thermal paste and there were no problems after that.

The board connectors are positioned at places familiar to most motherboards, including the floppy drive connector inconveniently placed at the bottom of the board-guess its because more and more systems are being set up without floppy drives. The power socket is a 24 pin one, and a bit of a gripe because it caters poorly to 20 pin ATX connectors-the hook catch is place only for 24 pin connectors.

On the back panel are the PS/2 keyboard & mouse sockets, the VGA & DVI connector, optical in & out, 7.1 audio, LAN, 1 firewire and 4 usb. A word of caution, the VGA connector is not as solid as one might expect, excessive force may break it off the board. The only thing missing to make it perfect are analog s-video/composite outputs and the legacy serial and parallel ports-but then again, how often do we use those these days?

BIOS

A quick peek in the BIOS shows a very well laid out and organised menu structure. Overclockers will no doubt be pleased, settings are easy to locate and options are abundant. Under Abit's famous Softmenu, there are

Multiplier options - from 4.0x to CPU maximum in steps of 0.5x (most AM2 motherboards give only 1.0x steps)
Clock frequency - 200 to 400 in single steps
PCIE clock - didn't check since normally just leave it at 100 for max overclock stability
Vcore - default to 2.0v in 0.025V steps shocking.gif
vDDR - 1.75v to 2.5V in 0.05 steps
NB voltage - 1.2 to 1.6v in 0.04 steps (bigger steps at higher voltages)
SB voltage - 1.5 to 1.74v in 0.03 steps (bigger steps at higher voltages)
HT voltage - 1.2 to 1.4v in 0.05 steps (bigger steps at higher voltages)

AM2 overclockers are no doubt drooling by now drool.gif

The rest of the familiar BIOS options can be found in their usual menus, in Advanced Chipset settings HT multiplier and HT width settings can be found along with memory settings. Of note is that command rate is selectable and settings automatically reset to defaults if memory setting is set to auto (no fumbling to find a stable setting to start overclocking from-a major confusion on the Biostar Tforce 6100 AM2). Downside is that manual means you have to adjust everything yourself, no such thing as adjust some and leave the rest to auto. The only thing missing form here is a built in memtest found in DFI and Biostar boards.

The PC health is of worth noting, with speed sensing for ALL four of the onboard fan headers and temp sensors for the CPU, chassis and power regulator and all the typical voltage sensors. The BIOS also has speed control for the system fan and the CPU fan headers, though the CPU fan header speed control only works with 4 pin fans.

Overclocking

At the moment I am still in the midst of overclocking this board, currently I can boot up to 253HTT. Strange thing is that voltage adjustments would not allow me to even go 1HTT higher, however if I overclock from windows I can reach 300++HTT without any voltage adjustments. The board's overclockability is undoubtable as when I stress tested it with AtiTool, dual Prime95 and a video playback all simultaneously (man it was godamn slow with so many things running) there was no trouble until it crashed around 330HTT. HTT overclocking is particularly hard to check for stability as there are no proper programs to do it-Prime is not suitable because the chipset is not involved for A64s. I suspect the HTT limit at startup may be due to certain settings or restriction by the BIOS.

Overclockers (and underclockers) will be most pleased to note that the following software can be used to adjust overclock settings from windows

Clockgen (allows base and PCIE clock adjustment)
CrystalCPUID (allows multiplier and voltage adjustment, also allows lower voltages down to 0.8v)
nTune (allows base clock adjustments and some very limited memory timing adjustment)
AtiTool (allows overclocking & stress testing of the onboard Geforce 6150)
Speedfan (allows fan speed control of system and CPU fan; bios speed control should be turned off first)

(more coming after I've done more detailed testing)


Underclocking & undervolting

This is an unique section not found in many reviews, but as much as I'm a fan of overclocking, I can't stand my system being noisy and hot. The nview does not give any underclocking/undervolting in the BIOS, so all underclocking and undervolting has to be done by software. Sadly, the board does not seem to like being underclocked, though the system is stable lock ups were frequent during changes of frequency to below 200HTT. However, it undervolts well enough, and on 200x5@0.825vCore I was able to turn off the CPU fan while keeping the CPU below 45C.

(more coming after I've done more detailed testing)

Benchmarks
(after I've done some REAL overclocking I'll post)

Conclusion

Overall I must say this is one of the best boards for the money, a complete all-integrated matx board with the performance and tweakability of high end boards twice its price. Unless you're a sucker for SLI or large boards I'll say this board can meet anyone's requirements at a very reasonable price. As a last word I'll suggest that noobs stay out of meddling in the bios, this board is not meant for those who have no idea what they're doing nod.gif .

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still don't have OC result from the buyers. Wondering where are those people? shakehead.gif
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hey, how much it cost from bulk? or cheapest from retail?
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Apr 23 2007, 03:16 PM)
still don't have OC result from the buyers. Wondering where are those people?  shakehead.gif
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Paitience, paitience..just finish exams only today..

Gonna backup my hdd then do some serious chipset OCing..must backup first..last attempt to do severe chipset OCing (not on this mobo) resulted in my HDD going nuts..
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lohwenli... can you post Systool AM2 memory timing screenshot with your maximum "BIOS set" overclocking? i want to try to figure out why there's HTT limit in bios but not in windows. I hate windows overclocking.
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http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard...PE=Socket%20AM2
to be exact, this is the board rite?
becoz i found another one which has only 2 ram slots.
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yes it is

solid caps for cpu would be a better choice though
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QUOTE(dblooi @ Apr 23 2007, 03:16 PM)
still don't have OC result from the buyers. Wondering where are those people?  shakehead.gif
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U think ever people like OC meh, spend so much money till MOBO spoilt and cant warranty.IF u wan see OC result, u buy one and clock KAU KAU la.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Apr 23 2007, 05:49 PM)
lohwenli... can you post Systool AM2 memory timing screenshot with your maximum "BIOS set" overclocking? i want to try to figure out why there's HTT limit in bios but not in windows. I hate windows overclocking.
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I'll try it after I backup my HDD, my current max is 253HTT with memory and processor running just below stock speed. Maybe I should go ask those who reviewed it how they did it; they managed 300++ without much trouble. If the Biostar Tforce 6100 AM2 is any indication, this board is supposed to be able to reach 400.

QUOTE(kalakatu @ Apr 23 2007, 08:19 PM)
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http://www.abit.com.tw/page/en/motherboard...PE=Socket%20AM2
to be exact, this is the board rite?
becoz i found another one which has only 2 ram slots.
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Correct, the other board is the NF-M2S, this is the NF-M2 nview. Not only the ram slots, its also missing a fair number of other features, if I'm not mistaken even the bios has minimal overclocking options.

QUOTE(Dennos @ Apr 23 2007, 10:28 PM)
U think ever people like OC meh, spend so much money till MOBO spoilt and cant warranty.IF u wan see OC result, u buy one and clock KAU KAU la.
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Well bro, this board was built by Abit with overclocking in mind. Of course la ppl want to see how well it lives up to promises..
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Apr 23 2007, 08:19 PM)
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to be exact, this is the board rite?
becoz i found another one which has only 2 ram slots.
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Thats the correct wan. The 2 ram slots r locally available with loads of stocks. Not very useful though.

Ur Tforce cukup la. haha

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quite dissapointed so far.only manage to go 250..bios maybe?
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QUOTE(jy14 @ Apr 24 2007, 05:08 PM)
Thats the correct wan. The 2 ram slots r locally available with loads of stocks. Not very useful though.

Ur Tforce cukup la. haha
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haha..ya lor..my tforce is enuf already.. biggrin.gif
thinking of grab ur brisbane 3600..but no money la rite now.. sad.gif
so juz stick to the current rig lor wink.gif
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Apr 25 2007, 01:16 AM)
haha..ya lor..my tforce is enuf already.. biggrin.gif
thinking of grab ur brisbane 3600..but no money la rite now.. sad.gif
so juz stick to the current rig lor  wink.gif
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haha, no prob bro. When u ready to join the brisbane group, can PM me, will include u into the buyer's list too.

Next upgrade for ur tforce, go for DFI lo. Coz this abit pun dah EOL, so, wait for new release or even better, go for the new agena. haha thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Dennos @ Apr 23 2007, 10:28 PM)
U think ever people like OC meh, spend so much money till MOBO spoilt and cant warranty.IF u wan see OC result, u buy one and clock KAU KAU la.
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ur mind cacat or what? If u are not overclocker pls keep quiet in this overclockers united section. thank you

QUOTE(lohwenli @ Apr 23 2007, 05:18 PM)
Paitience, paitience..just finish exams only today..

Gonna backup my hdd then do some serious chipset OCing..must backup first..last attempt to do severe chipset OCing (not on this mobo) resulted in my HDD going nuts..
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ok.. awaiting for ur good news. I really wish to know how far can this mobo goes rclxms.gif

QUOTE(brabus55 @ Apr 24 2007, 11:42 PM)
quite dissapointed so far.only manage to go 250..bios maybe?
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hmm... disable all those spread spectrum thingy already? 250 is so low . Btw , i believe that things that ppl mentioned in rebels haven forum are true. This mobo is not really OCable.

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so, any overclocking result with primed stable and cuperPI 32M completed? unsure.gif
becoz i didnt see any oc screenies so far..
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QUOTE(kalakatu @ Apr 25 2007, 07:44 PM)
so, any overclocking result with primed stable and cuperPI 32M completed?  unsure.gif
becoz i didnt see any oc screenies so far..
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the bulk ended a month ago , yet still dun hv OC result .... sweat.gif

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uhm..looks like this thread going nowhere.. sad.gif
im hoping to see the screenies and benchies..
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Any testing n benchmarking on this board here? Seems like nobody post their result on this board.. Mind to share the result here drool.gif

Thx. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Thx soulfly, 290MHz is not bad. rclxms.gif Have u tried to get above 300MHz? brows.gif
Btw, where r the other forumers that bought this mobo from jy14? hmm.gif
Pls share ur result here.. drool.gif
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best matx mobo for am2? i'm sure it isn't for now
half year ago maybe yes
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QUOTE(soulfly @ May 27 2007, 12:55 PM)
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How did you modify the part number ? smile.gif
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I wonder, is this mobo performs well in gaming..? hmm.gif
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To tell you guys the truth, the term 'gaming mobo' is just a marketing gimmick. Any mobo can be used for gaming, it all depends on your cpu and gpu power, as well as the amount of ram you have.

A super expensive so-called gaming mobo with a puny little graphic card is no match for a cheap mainstream mobo with fast cpu and a 8800GTX with 4GB of ram.
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I don't find this mobo at LYP. Is there any other good m-ATX motherboard for overclcoking? I don't aim high, as long as it will reach 240HTT 1.4V its good enough...and my budget is below RM300
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biostar tforce ta690g...another good overclocking m-atx mobo
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I don't find this mobo at LYP. Is there any other good m-ATX motherboard for overclcoking? I don't aim high, as long as it will reach 240HTT 1.4V its good enough...and my budget is below RM300
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I saw a few NView in TMatch (top floor LYP).
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QUOTE(nik0ns @ Oct 31 2007, 08:52 PM)
biostar tforce ta690g...another good overclocking m-atx mobo
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Oct 28 2007, 11:04 AM)
To tell you guys the truth, the term 'gaming mobo' is just a marketing gimmick. Any mobo can be used for gaming, it all depends on your cpu and gpu power, as well as the amount of ram you have.

A super expensive so-called gaming mobo with a puny little graphic card is no match for a cheap mainstream mobo with fast cpu and a 8800GTX with 4GB of ram.
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I think,TA690G is good for gaming,but not using the on board card.The sounds really great and impressive!!. brows.gif

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wta tht this board is PCI-E 16x with 16x bandwidth? or 8x bandwidth? cause my previous mobo Abit NF-M2S wif 6100 chipset onli hav 8x bandwidth on PCI-E 16x slot..
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wta tht this board is PCI-E 16x with 16x bandwidth? or 8x bandwidth? cause my previous mobo Abit NF-M2S wif 6100 chipset onli hav 8x bandwidth on PCI-E 16x slot..
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This board run on PCI-E X16. rclxms.gif
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Youre right bro,im using it now and im satisfied with it.But will change mobo if barcelona released. rclxms.gif
barcelona is socket-F, u sure u gonna jump to that platform?

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barcelona is socket-F, u sure u gonna jump to that platform?
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After having the nview for quite a while, finally I've had the time and matching hardware to over clock it. And guess what..

The nview screams!

So here we start at my miniature lab/workshop..
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The PC is actually the family PC, which I'm setting up as a HTPC/home server. As its shared by my mom and sis, I can't take it offline too long or I'll have plenty of complaints to deal with. Here's a shot of the system in its present home, with some newcomers freshly added to the lotn brows.gif brows.gif
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Taking it out, I can see the silent OTES has been well implemented. Look at the dust from the CPU fan.
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The dream team, my new F3 and Crucial 10th Anniversary. Have another stick, but at the time it was temporarily sitting in a friend's PC.
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OC set-up all laid out
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I've mentioned once or twice before that I'm using an XP-120 to cool this system. And here's why.
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As you can see, it covers everything, ram, voltage regulators, even the chipset gets a little bit of air. Only thing that sucks is that putting in and removing ram is a pain. Plus, its short enough for me to build a low profile case around it later.

For a start, here's OCers favourite page. Something you don't see on many matx mobos. Thanks to pmmonkey for letting me use her LCD while she's back in her hometown.
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With the latest bios update, vDimm has been extended to 1.75-2.50v drool.gif
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Previously, I could not properly make it past 250HTT at boot, only from windows could I go higher. With some more experience now (thanks to dblooi, soulfly and a few others), I tried out 280HTT, setting Trc to 129ns while leaving everything else at stock..
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IT BOOTS!
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Even 300HTT and 320HTT was no sweat. Pushing to 330HTT however,
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Ok, too bad, need a little more tweaking..even though this is on 1.400vcore and 2.20vdimm, still no luck..
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While the board is just hanging there, I'll take a few voltage measurements..
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What the hell..an overvolting mobo? shocking.gif This matx really has overclocking in its blood. PSU readings are normal though.
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Even the stock vcore (1.2v) and vdimm (1.8v) are overvolted.
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Now I'm gonna pull out all the stops and push the HTT as far as it will go, settings as below, 1.45vcore, 2.2vdimm, NB & SB ~+0.1v, HT voltage 1.25v. CPU multiplier down as far as it will go (5x).
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And guess how far I managed to boot..
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OMG! Flatten even soulfly's last record!

Gotta stop now. Dad's lappie running out off batt.
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So sad that this mobo is out of productions. sweat.gif
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