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 is Volvo S80 2008/9 a good car?, comment please

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post Jul 10 2016, 05:36 PM, updated 10y ago

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Anyone own or experience sitting in a Volvo S80 second gen?
what are your thoughts?
i would expect the maintenance as teruk as the other contis but is it worth the price?
currently selling circa 60~70k depending on the condition
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post Jul 10 2016, 07:41 PM

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Though i dont own s80, I do own 2003 xc90 t5 and 2007 s40.

I would imagine the maintenance cost around the same. Just dont send service @ FA once the warranty finish. Unless you want kena slaughter.



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post Jul 10 2016, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Jul 10 2016, 07:41 PM)
Though i dont own s80, I do own 2003 xc90 t5 and 2007 s40.

I would imagine the maintenance cost around the same. Just dont send service @ FA once the warranty finish. Unless you want kena slaughter.
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the car got give u many problem?
electrical? mechanical?
not sure how volve reliability is but i think their safety should be top notch
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post Jul 10 2016, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jul 10 2016, 08:42 PM)
the car got give u many problem?
electrical? mechanical?
not sure how volve reliability is but i think their safety should be top notch
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-My xc90 already 13 years old. mileage around 280,000(ish)KM . Basically engine still the same, turbo still the same (however start to slightly leak already), gbox are also the same, AWD system including the driveshafts still the same

-just recently (within this year) front right abs sensor failed (rm3xx) , engine impulse sensor failed (rm350x2) and crank sensor were replaced even though still working, for the sake of reliability (forget the price) and alternator (rm1600 brand new) . I consider it OK, because all of this part has been functioning since the car left its factory in 2003.

-around 190,000KM (2012/13) all four shocks leaks bangwall.gif so had to change it all, front (rm8xx per side and mount rm1xx per side) rear (rm1400 per side nivomat type rclxub.gif ) , 1 off the reverse sensor failed (rm2xx)

-did change electric fan, not sure when.

-of course through the years of owning it, I also did other normal wear n tear parts change such as timing belts, eng mount, brakes stuff, arms and bushing n etc

-Overall I'm really satisfied with the xc90, I planned to keep it for another year or two than replaced it with XC90 Thor flex.gif (but I admit, sentimentally I feel very hard to let go my old XC90)


-For 2007 s40, its relatively low mileage (currently around 79,xxxKM) Two unexpected parts that I have to change was coolant expansion tank (rm1xx) and it's driveshaft (rm5,xxx both side, brand new, original) I believed there was a design defect with the driveshaft when the car rolled out from the factory, during replacement, my mechanic measure the new original Volvo driveshaft was about 2mm longer than the one factory fitted driveshafts. To be honest, I could go with 2nd hand driveshaft to keep the cost down, but I planned to keep this car at least for the next 4-5 year.

-compared to my Bmw's, Volvo's are easier to take care, no silly eccentric German engineering crap to deal with. The downside is, unlike german car which got plenty OEM and recondition parts in Malaysia, Volvo are slightly harder to get (that why sometime I prefer to stick with original volvo part).

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Jul 10 2016, 11:28 PM)
-My xc90 already 13 years old. mileage around 280,000(ish)KM . Basically engine still the same, turbo still the same (however start to slightly leak already), gbox are also the same, AWD system including the driveshafts still the same

-just recently (within this year) front right abs sensor failed (rm3xx) , engine impulse sensor failed (rm350x2) and crank sensor were replaced even though still working, for the sake of reliability (forget the price) and alternator (rm1600 brand new) . I consider it OK, because all of this part has been functioning since the car left its factory in 2003.   

-around 190,000KM (2012/13) all four shocks leaks  bangwall.gif  so had to change it all, front (rm8xx per side and mount rm1xx per side) rear (rm1400 per side nivomat type  rclxub.gif  ) , 1 off the reverse sensor failed (rm2xx)

-did change electric fan, not sure when.

-of course through the years of owning it, I also did other normal wear n tear parts change such as timing belts, eng mount, brakes stuff, arms and bushing n etc

-Overall I'm really satisfied with the xc90, I planned to keep it for another year or two than replaced it with XC90 Thor  flex.gif  (but I admit, sentimentally I feel very hard to let go my old XC90)
-For 2007 s40, its relatively low mileage (currently around 79,xxxKM) Two unexpected parts that I have to change was coolant expansion tank (rm1xx) and it's driveshaft (rm5,xxx both side, brand new, original) I believed there was a design defect with the driveshaft when the car rolled out from the factory, during replacement, my mechanic measure the new original Volvo driveshaft was about 2mm longer than the one factory fitted driveshafts.  To be honest, I could go with 2nd hand driveshaft to keep the cost down, but I planned to keep this car at least for the next 4-5 year.

-compared to my Bmw's, Volvo's are easier to take care, no silly eccentric German engineering crap to deal with. The downside is, unlike german car which got plenty OEM and recondition parts in Malaysia, Volvo are slightly harder to get (that why sometime I prefer to stick with original volvo part).
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thats a good input bro. truly appreciate it.
however i think im not ready to own this car yet. guess i'll just go for new perdana probably tongue.gif
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post Jul 11 2016, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Jul 10 2016, 11:28 PM)
-My xc90 already 13 years old. mileage around 280,000(ish)KM . Basically engine still the same, turbo still the same (however start to slightly leak already), gbox are also the same, AWD system including the driveshafts still the same

-just recently (within this year) front right abs sensor failed (rm3xx) , engine impulse sensor failed (rm350x2) and crank sensor were replaced even though still working, for the sake of reliability (forget the price) and alternator (rm1600 brand new) . I consider it OK, because all of this part has been functioning since the car left its factory in 2003.   

-around 190,000KM (2012/13) all four shocks leaks  bangwall.gif  so had to change it all, front (rm8xx per side and mount rm1xx per side) rear (rm1400 per side nivomat type  rclxub.gif  ) , 1 off the reverse sensor failed (rm2xx)

-did change electric fan, not sure when.

-of course through the years of owning it, I also did other normal wear n tear parts change such as timing belts, eng mount, brakes stuff, arms and bushing n etc

-Overall I'm really satisfied with the xc90, I planned to keep it for another year or two than replaced it with XC90 Thor  flex.gif  (but I admit, sentimentally I feel very hard to let go my old XC90)
-For 2007 s40, its relatively low mileage (currently around 79,xxxKM) Two unexpected parts that I have to change was coolant expansion tank (rm1xx) and it's driveshaft (rm5,xxx both side, brand new, original) I believed there was a design defect with the driveshaft when the car rolled out from the factory, during replacement, my mechanic measure the new original Volvo driveshaft was about 2mm longer than the one factory fitted driveshafts.  To be honest, I could go with 2nd hand driveshaft to keep the cost down, but I planned to keep this car at least for the next 4-5 year.

-compared to my Bmw's, Volvo's are easier to take care, no silly eccentric German engineering crap to deal with. The downside is, unlike german car which got plenty OEM and recondition parts in Malaysia, Volvo are slightly harder to get (that why sometime I prefer to stick with original volvo part).
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spare parts aside.. how about the regular maintenance? did the gearbox need special care?

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post Jul 11 2016, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(imperialrealcs @ Jul 10 2016, 11:40 PM)
thats a good input bro. truly appreciate it.
however i think im not ready to own this car yet. guess i'll just go for new perdana probably tongue.gif
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Haha, no problem, Im sharing my personal experience owning volvo for more than 10 years old. Definitely not the cheapest but not really a nightmare or troublesome.

Sometime I scratch my head when I heard story of some volvo owners need to fork out ten of thousand ringgit in order to repair their car for one issue. (Unless you f-up the engine) . Once your warranty finish or void, just go to indy specialist. Volvo's are not that complicated if u compared to bmw. Any competent conti mech should know how to fixed volvo. Just find one you trust.
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post Jul 11 2016, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Jul 11 2016, 08:48 AM)
spare parts aside.. how about the regular maintenance? did the gearbox need special care?
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-Maintanence wise, just like normal car, I just use 10/40w semi liqui moly or bizol, (I kept it under 10,000km, usually around 7500km ish per oil change )

-For gearbox, change the atf and axle oil every 80,000km ish thats it. Do note mine are 2.5t5 engine, it uses 5 speed Aisin haldex system.

-timing belt, waterpump every 100,000km (ish) technically they last up to 160,000km . But considering hot climate and traffic idle etc . I prefer to change it earlier..


Just a reminder, please avoid the Xc90 2.9t6 version. Its a problematic car, esp the gearbox, 4 speed GM is crap.

This post has been edited by lamir_loco: Jul 11 2016, 10:08 AM
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post Jul 11 2016, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Jul 11 2016, 09:59 AM)
-Maintanence wise, just like normal car, I just use 10/40w semi liqui moly or bizol, (I kept it under 10,000km, usually around 7500km ish per oil change )

-For gearbox, change the atf and axle oil every 80,000km ish thats it. Do note mine are 2.5t5 engine, it uses 5 speed Aisin haldex system.

-timing belt, waterpump every 100,000km (ish) technically they last up to 160,000km . But considering hot climate and traffic idle etc . I prefer to change it earlier..
Just a reminder, please avoid the Xc90 2.9t6 version. Its a problematic car, esp the gearbox, 4 speed GM is crap.
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i see.. is it more or less like other volvo model? such as xc60 or maybe sedan s60?
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post Jul 11 2016, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Jul 11 2016, 10:33 AM)
i see.. is it more or less like other volvo model? such as xc60 or maybe sedan s60?
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More or less with the type of gearbox. If its normal torque converter. You can stay 60,000km (i stick with 80,000km)

But some of later model uses dual clutch wet type, need shorter oil change (not sure the interval for msia)

The good news is all new volvo model (after 2016) in Malaysia will used conventional torque converter (unless Im mistaken), like new Xc90, uses 8 speed torque converter gbox link at front wheel, and electric motor @ both rear wheel.

 

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