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 IntelŪ Core(tm)2 Duo/Quad Overclocked Rev. 2, Going beyond factory limits

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MaGicDust
post Nov 10 2006, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(basSist @ Nov 10 2006, 06:37 PM)
ok. i am now trying to prime it at all default including the cpu and ram. see whether orthos fails o not. this is the tat's temp.

Orthos still running now. phew~

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Yeah, that's very hot... Maybe you should try to get the temperature right first before trying to push the proc... I would use the TAT's function to load both the cores cause they produce a higher max temperature compared to running 2 Super Pi or Prime

Make sure you apply enough to cover the entire processor's heat sink, evenly spreaded out with a card, the coating should be evenly distributed with a thickness of probably 0.5-1mm. Thermal paste often require up to 1-3days to 'dry up' to reach maximum performance... BTW, also make sure that the screw of the HSF is properly locked on the back of the mobo (sometimes it doesn't go through the screw hole properly) and secured in the lock position.

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post Nov 11 2006, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Nov 10 2006, 10:16 PM)
hot ka?? i dont thinks so. on air cooling it should be normal  cheers.gif
same as mine here :

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I dont know... I'm using Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro (Cost ~RM130 in UK)... At full blast (Without SmartFan @ 2500rpm)... I can do 57C a peak load with TAT... E6300@3.15Ghz, vCore@1.225. However, normally I'll just leave SmartFan (around 1000rpm) on cause full blast is just too loud... The temp will peak at 62C...

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post Nov 12 2006, 06:22 PM

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Is this similar to the hynix C4 you guys been talking about?
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I might buy it and sell my OCZ Platinum RAM... Wanna cut some cost...

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(gengstapo @ Nov 12 2006, 09:45 AM)
its due to low vcore i think
the higher we raise the FSB, the higher vcore is needed


Upping vCore can stablize the RAM? I'm currently undervolting my Proc at 1.225V. RAM becomes unstable at over 450MHz... If yes I might try upping the voltage...

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post Nov 12 2006, 07:55 PM

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I'm from Ipoh, sudying in the UK... The OCZ RAM very ex. Bought for 170pounds ~ RM1200. The Hynix C4 only cost 110pounds ~ RM700ish, so wanna save some money... About OCbility, I can run 4-5-4-15 at 450Mhz @ 2.1V... System is stable but give a few errors when Memtest for 24hrs... I dropped it to 430MHz and now is completely stable.

But gengstapo said that low vcore might affect RAM stability. Not sure bout that... If it is so, I might try upping the vCore and try to up the memory speed again cause now i'm undervolting at 1.225V @ 430MHzx7
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post Nov 12 2006, 09:37 PM

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UK should be as cheap as US without the Value Added Tax. Else, it is cheaper to buy in malaysia cause buying in UK will cost 17.5% more. I bought my e6300 for around RM770 OEM version which is not cheap. However from time to time it is possible to get cheap stuffs from online store, but generally UK is more expensive than Malaysia and I think US is still among the cheapest country to buy computer stuffs, not sure about China wink.gif...

I got the pic of the C4 here:
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CODE AS FOLLOWS:

1 GB 2RX8 PC2-4200O-444O12
HYMP512U64BP8-C4 AB-T 0641

So you guys think this is the right one? If yes I might quickly grab myself the bargain before its gone... He is selling 2 sticks atm...

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post Nov 13 2006, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Diademz @ Nov 12 2006, 11:10 PM)
Hi Magicdust,
If it helps these are my KVR533 1GB Hynix C4 sticks - slightly diff code though.

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Currently doing DDR800 4-4-4-10 @ 2V.
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I think the code is different cause the code I wrote is for the whole RAM module... The code on the RAM chips suppose to be different... Anyway, I went to Hynix website and checked... I think they are the same RAM chips... Btw, what's the Vcore of your proc currently?

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nice result U got there...C4 is a nice value chip.   I wish my Corsair VS can do that. Doing DDR800 4-4-4-12@ 2V as well...Memtest overnight, no error.
For 700ish, it is a bargain ( espicially at UK). Grab it b4 U miss out the chance.
Hehehe... Maybe can try to bid rather than using quick grab, then the price can be lowered summore... wink.gif

siauann, will you tell me the speed, timing, vDIMM and the vCore that you are running on atm with ur c4?

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post Nov 13 2006, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(pierreye @ Nov 13 2006, 01:59 PM)
Memory timing is not so important in C2D. Most between 2 extreme timing is around 5%. Also, I don't see much gain after 3Ghz and above. Most likely our Graphic card can't keep up with the procs.
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Maybe for our gfx cards. But for most top-end gfx cards in the market especially after GF8800 is released thumbup.gif . Processor speed is always the main issue. Even if you overclock, it is just not fast enough to keep up with the gfx cards. There is always a FPS 'cap' limited by the CPU when benchmarking at lower resolution.

QUOTE(remysix @ Nov 13 2006, 02:39 PM)
that's what i heard as well...that's why for c2d, i'd go for ram with higher fsb, to hit 1:1 with the proc...and yes, for synt benchmarking, might have some improvement with tighter timing especially for SPI...so, my choice of ram: big fat ram (capacity) and high fsb thumbup.gif (even thou i'm waiting for the Crucial 10th Anni...not becoz of the timing but the fsb tongue.gif )
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Ya, I do realize this as well, there is no significant difference for me in benchmarking beween running 555-15 or 444-12 in benchmarks. Probably because Intel processors doesn't have intergrated memory controller, there is always a significant latency between the processor and the memory. Just a guess.
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post Nov 25 2006, 03:18 AM

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Nov 24 2006, 06:10 PM)
not every1 can afford 1 shot ler...  cry.gif
ie. my board is RM680 when i bought it... it's now quad-core ready... so i juz need to resave my money and get quad-core... tat's the point of getting high-end mobo...
and many of us are curious of the overclockability of high end stuff... OC low end stuff won get u anywhere...
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Quad core extremely hot wor... Wouldn't recommend quad cores yet. I think you can reach a higher clock speed with a conroe or allendale than kentsfield even though kentsfield got 4 cores as even at stock, kentsfield is already much hotter than a dual core cpu... I think should stay away from 4 cores until games and normal softwares become more threaded... As for now, its better to have a higher clockspeed than more cores in gaming... btw, its much cooler and takes less power too! Unless you are a benchie freak and want the highest score possible or cpu intensive stuffs such as renderings, encodings... wink.gif

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post Nov 25 2006, 08:10 PM

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hehe, yah... E6300 OC to >3Ghz not low-end already... considering some people who doesnt oc their cpu, its almost as fast as a x6800 at stock... haha.. I dont consider that as low end wink.gif
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post Nov 25 2006, 09:01 PM

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BTW, just bought this 2x1GB C4 Sticks on ebay (wanna downgrade my OCZ Platinum.. Thanks to the forumers here... haha), one left... I guess grab yourself a bargain... Only ~RM700ish plus delivery to anywhere in the world.. Need paypal account though...

Under search, type in the item number: 320052102576

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post Nov 25 2006, 11:51 PM

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Thanks for clarifying... Always confused that they are Allendale cause even most review websites assume that they are e6300 and e6400 are Allendale...
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:12 AM

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What cooler are you using atm? I think to unleash the power of 4 cores at 4GHz, might need a water-cooling setup.. else it is just way to hot to get a good OC out of it... Imagine cooling 2 Conroes using 1 HSF...
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post Nov 28 2006, 08:09 PM

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Hehehe... Couldn't careless when Mac will be using quad-core... You are paying premium price for getting a Mac just for the aesthetics... In terms of hardware... What is in a Mac has no difference compared to what is in Dell... As well spend the premiums on some really good stuffs...
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post Dec 4 2006, 02:40 AM

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Well, with a stock fan, you can since it supports PWM function, normally your mobo will adjust the fanspeed automatically unless you disable it. Btw, is there any programs out there that can help you to control the fanspeed in Windows?
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post Dec 5 2006, 04:33 AM

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evanttc ---> interesting screenshot there... Haha... Never seen anything like that before. Do you have those power saving, and CPU throttling stuffs disabled in the BIOS? ie. CIA and stuffs...
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post Dec 6 2006, 07:50 AM

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Ya, vCore a bit high there... I'm running 7x430 @ 1.225V / 1.192V shown in CPU-Z. Could lower you vCore a bit and extend the life of our processor wink.gif

@deric88

high voltage runs cooler? ---> No way... lower better~! Less heat and less power...

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