yeah.. i believe both luck and batch number plays important role in OC.. same pieces of hardwares, same batch number do not guarantee same overclocking result

fyi, those extreme ocers like at xs, or other oversea forums, they bought lots of processors, test it 1 by 1 and then we can see they hit 4ghz and above..

i also bought lots of conroe but not for overclocking purpose.. i concern more about heat.. some chip produces less heat than the others.. and in terms of oc, i had conroe that cant do 2.9ghz, while my current conroe can run super PI at 3.7ghz at 1.4vcore.

This post has been edited by irenic: Jan 9 2007, 12:24 PM

ko lg otai.. 3.5ghz stable with low vcore

owh.. i thought 1.3x vcore only hehe.. fsb wall @ 460 is not bad IMO

btw found interesting link regarding crossfire comparison between the coming RD600, current 965p and the old skool 975x mobos

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=129509

this is my old screenshot of this intel xbx2 + my E6600

This post has been edited by irenic: Jan 10 2007, 09:01 AM


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based on my 5x E6600s vs 3x E6400s vs 1x E6300, i'm very sure the 2mb L2 chip needs extra 200mhz to get same score as its 4mb brother in super PI..

so in other words, based on my experience, if my E6600 is at 3.4ghz, i need to set my E6400 or E6300 to 3.6ghz to get same result in Super PI.

In ur case, the E6400 is at 400mhz higher than the E6600, but still slower 0.765 secs in super PI.

So my GUESS is the diferrence comes from other things, such as background application, mem usage, and / or tweaked windows..

neway just wanna share with u guys my quick test with this XBX2.

E6600 @ 3.7ghz 1.375vcore, 1.6vmch, 1.3vfsb
Intel XBX2 bios 2333 1066 strap
Mushkin DDR2 800 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 1.84vdimm
8800GTX
Thermaltake Toughpower 700w





E6600 @ 3.8ghz 1.45vcore, 1.625vmch, 1.35vfsb
Intel XBX2 bios 2333 1066 strap
Mushkin DDR2 800 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 1.84vdimm
8800GTX
Thermaltake Toughpower 700w





Okei, since i had used lots of boards, i would like to give my comments on them. since this is from my personal experience, my opinion might not same with u bcoz of hardware differences and environment.

965: gigabyte ds4, dq6, ds3, asus p5b dlx wifi edition, biostar 965 dlx

975: asus p5w dh dlx wifi, intel xbx2

for 965, my first board ds4 was ok.. but lack of bios support made me jumped to gigabyte flagship board, dq6.
dq6 was not bad, until i read that asus p5b dlx is the best conroe board at that time.
but the asus gave me lots of trouble. it reported my memory as error while the ram itself was proven ok when i tested it with other board.. i couldnt reach as high oc as i got with dq6.
with ds3, i can get same max oc as dq6, but the ds3 produced a disturbing noise.
the biostar is the best conroe i had at that time. no memory issues, no noise, highest oc result i achieved.

for 975, asus p5w dh is better than the biostar. it is faster @ same clockspeed, more stable, and the bios is easy to configure. but in terms of oc, i just managed to hit the same speed as i got with the biostar.

the xbx2 : has less features than the p5w dh dlx.. as i bought this board just after 2 hours review @ xs, somehow i felt like i made a wrong decision.. but few days later i found out this is the best board i ever used with intel processor..

1) 100mhz extra clockspeed than what i got with my p5w dh dlx. (3.8 vs 3.7)

2) need significantly lower voltages than p5w dh dlx ( 3.7 @ 1.375vcore, 1.6vmch, 1.3vfsb VS 3.7 @ 1.45vcore, 1.65vmch, 1.4 vfsb)

3) bios recovery if bios flashing fail

4) and most importantly, no more cold boot, or power on off like other c2d boards.

however this xbx2 still got few disadvantages

1) less attractive stuffs like wifi, bundles, to justify its price

2) bad jumper position

3) no screw hole for chipset heatsink. so 3rd party hsf that can be used is limited..

4) got problem with software like everest and IDCC.

This post has been edited by irenic: Jan 10 2007, 09:33 PM

in my case everest ultimate shows 10c higher than coretemp or TAT.. haih..

or the problem bcoz of biostar software?

my suggestion is to avoid asus p5b dlx

for that amount, go for intel 975xbx2 extreme desktop or asus p5w dh dlx.

avoid abit aw9d max since it has crappy bios (no offence for its user here but this is sadly true ) while asus p5b-e plus has very big vdroop problem

for little budget, biostar 965pt / gigabyte ds3 is a better choice

This post has been edited by irenic: Jan 14 2007, 03:43 AM

act, if u like to browse in other forums such as vr zone, xs, dfi streets u'll find that crucial got numbers of rma as well..

u said lot of rma for corsair? u answered it urself. kingston and crucial people rarely buy, so the rma rate is lower than other brand... but maybe the percentage is the same

another thing, for me the important thing when buying stuff is budget. lots of budget u can buy expensive stuffs, small budget cheap stuffs.
the best stuff for u is the best stuff ur money can buy.

best stuff for me not necessary will be best stuff for others..

enermax, silverstone, zalman all are very good psu.. i dont think u'll get disappoint with these brand

Quad POST!!! next time use edit button k

This post has been edited by irenic: Jan 16 2007, 11:54 PM

i saw ASUS commando at lyp today, anyone interested to buy ?

it might not fall into the real performance ram due to its timing, but dont forget that mine can reach very high fsb 1080fsb @ 2.2vdimm only and stable orthos.. maybe at loose timing but not many ram can reach 1000 even at loose timing
gskill hz also max out around 950fsb

This post has been edited by irenic: Jan 19 2007, 12:18 AM

ha what do u mean ?

raymond, i guess darksythe said brought instead of bought ..

rlhc is a great modder.. even with simple cooling he can easily beat those with high end wc

i mean his max clockspeed lah... eventhough he use simple cooling only but still can go very far..

use orthos it is specialized for dual core processor

dl it here :

http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/orthos_exe_20060420.cab

devilman, u need to oc step by step. increase ur fsb, then run orthos for 5-10mins, if no prob, increase fsb again, i say 5 fsb each, then run orthos again.. repeat until iorthos fail and then u need to increase ur vcore.

the RM800++ is a promotion price, means for few units only (not really sure how many).. and most of them are booked.

normal price is rm1.15k, even u convert from USD also cant get RM800..

This post has been edited by irenic: Jan 22 2007, 12:58 AM

so gengstapo, which one u like most? abit aw9d or asus commando ?hahahaha

p/s - u made a wrong move for choosing abit over xbx2 !

yeah some are not bad.. but percentage of bad abit is way higher than bad xbx2