Gen 2 Sedan, Rumours ? Real or Photoshop ?
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  Jan 17 2007, 07:25 PM, updated 19y ago
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Jan 17 2007, 07:32 PM
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its a clay model.. saw that model before Gen2 was launched..
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Jan 17 2007, 07:34 PM
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i think it only for doing RnD only...
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Jan 17 2007, 07:59 PM
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That was an old prototype surfaced in 2004 once, and it was rumoured to be the sedan version of gen2. I hope this still not, take a look at the front and its fugly!
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Jan 17 2007, 09:29 PM
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front become ford, rear become kia...
 there's another picture, looks like the real one...definitely not as ugly as the pic above. |
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Jan 17 2007, 11:07 PM
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so ugly. Oh BTW< new savvy should hit road soon. I just came back from SC and I spotted one, more like had a chance to explore it
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Jan 17 2007, 11:09 PM
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that wan is a test car la or rather a real life mock up
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Jan 17 2007, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jan 17 2007, 11:07 PM) so ugly. Oh BTW< new savvy should hit road soon. I just came back from SC and I spotted one, more like had a chance to explore it oh? new savvy? what other forms? just one with bodykit update? |
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Jan 18 2007, 12:01 AM
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To me looks like a old Dodge Neon
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Jan 18 2007, 01:20 AM
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it is not built on 2004 , that is the actual mule made out for tengku mahaleel to choose , in the end , tengku mahaleel has chosen the WRM as Gen2 . and this 1:1 model is left out .
if not mistaken , this picture was taken during the open day of proton factory . |
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Jan 18 2007, 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jan 17 2007, 11:07 PM) so ugly. Oh BTW< new savvy should hit road soon. I just came back from SC and I spotted one, more like had a chance to explore it QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 17 2007, 11:50 PM) oh? new savvy? what other forms? just one with bodykit update? this new savvy facelift...???...but this for taiwan version de....*page from paultan.org.... |
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Jan 18 2007, 12:13 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was.
The chasis spawn the Waja, Gen2 and Neo. However, I think the sedan will remain as the Waja for cost reasons. Facelifting by changing a few of the front and rear panels to have a more modern look isn't out of the question, in-fact Honda EG and EK models were exactly the same except the EK was more refined and panels were changed to make it look new. EG's were able to convert to EK looks, but front only. |
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Jan 18 2007, 02:46 PM
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gen 2 sedan? wah, sound good here.. old engine?
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Jan 18 2007, 02:55 PM
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Got the pics from an email for a quite long time ago. And yes, the chasis for waja, gen2, neo is almost the same. Maybe we will see some gen2 with neo front part mod very soon. Or there's one already?
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Jan 19 2007, 09:54 AM
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gen2 and neo front, should be interchangable.
get the fender, bonnet, headlamps, bumper, etc. |
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Jan 19 2007, 10:38 AM
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Wow! We'll be getting bigger aquarium!
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Jan 19 2007, 10:44 AM
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wow, how did someone manage to sneak a camera into proton hicom graveyard?
that place is filled with security camera. |
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Jan 19 2007, 10:55 AM
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my frens' fren say that its real, coz he is working in a company which design radio system for proton. He say now they r designing the systems for new Gen2 sedan, manufacturing also.....
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Jan 19 2007, 11:49 AM
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Yup., Hearch from my friend working in R&D Plant Proton....
Gen 2 sedan is on Testing now.... But, dunno when it's goin to launch... |
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Jan 19 2007, 11:56 AM
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isnt it nice if they come out with gen2 coupe instead?
putra replacement model maybe |
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Jan 19 2007, 12:04 PM
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the gen2 sedan is going to launch after CNY...btw today i heard they r launching waja & savvy new facelift? any1 know where is the location?
www.motortrader.com.my |
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Jan 24 2007, 09:54 AM
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how many times they wanna facelift the waja
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Jan 24 2007, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 24 2007, 09:54 AM) how many times they wanna facelift the waja well, shud not be less than the times they facelift-ed the iswara, perdana and wira lor... |
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Jan 24 2007, 10:39 AM
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Waja and savvy facelift already at the showroom and on sale. As for gen2 sedan, not sure about it, does it even exist?
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Jan 24 2007, 10:40 AM
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This surely looks better than the current Gen2 ... I would like to see it on the road ...
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Jan 24 2007, 12:01 PM
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The picture threadstarter uploaded in the 1st post, looks exactly like an Elantra
 Its not photoshopped? |
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Jan 26 2007, 10:50 AM
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  here are two spy shots of the soon to be released gen2 sedan. it has also been facelifted and the gen2 aeroback will also spot this new look. quick-eyed viewers would notice the similarities between the facelifted waja and gen2 rear bumpers. It will be available in 1.3 and 1.6 campro with variable valve timing. here are the changes and new feaures: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « http://www.motortrader.com.my/asp/forum/to...?TOPIC_ID=13807 |
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Jan 26 2007, 10:53 AM
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WOW, the rear looks great!
 Need to take a 3/4 view of the front to get a good idea. That shot is horrible. And did you say.......variable valve timing!! You're joking aren't you?  Wah, Campro with 122hp, and 167Nm at only 3500rpm. If this is confirmed real then I'd do this.  This post has been edited by tunertoobe: Jan 26 2007, 10:56 AM |
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Jan 26 2007, 11:08 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « IIANM, thatz a photoshopped pix. The rear bumper was taken from the bmw... cheers. |
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Jan 26 2007, 11:10 AM
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Then if it's not this is what I'll do.
  But that engine spec is  When is Bosch going to be finished with the VIM!! |
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Jan 26 2007, 12:04 PM
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although i think its all cannon but a fun read from another forummer.
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Jan 26 2007, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jan 26 2007, 12:04 PM) although i think its all cannon but a fun read from another forummer. indeed. at least it keeps our morale and hopes high...  cheers. |
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Jan 26 2007, 11:11 PM
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tat's not it...
anyway it's out on april this year... wait n c... |
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Jan 26 2007, 11:34 PM
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heard bosch already finished the vim?
gen2 sedan testing? my friend is involved in the project. so it exist. but i never see the pic and do not know the progress with variable valve timing? i thought the cps thingy is scrapped. the only things remains is the vim. not sure either. |
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Jan 26 2007, 11:40 PM
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looks quite nice form the rear...
yeah i think the cps thing is scrapped due to some reasons  , really a pitty and really hope they will look into it again... but the vim is still on, but well, we will never know until the final product is out... |
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Jan 27 2007, 12:22 AM
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Confirm got Profiling anot?
If got then The engine should be more efficient than the current ones.. The front is not bad (from that angle) The rear bumper looks like 5 series...or is my eyes blur already They better do miracles..else they are just gonna die... |
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Jan 27 2007, 12:51 AM
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if u noticed the pic on top, thats where eoa is , its the motor dealer off jln klang lama, definately photoshopped
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Jan 27 2007, 02:03 AM
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duck it la
proton always disapoints so why do we ever give any hope for anyway! |
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Jan 27 2007, 02:12 AM
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Sure CPS scrapped?
What a pity.  But was it from Lotus? Lotus made some changes to Toyota's 1.8 unit to produce 190hp, naturally aspirated and it was with valve timing technology(among other things).It was probably due to cost or something.  |
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Jan 27 2007, 04:51 AM
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if its done right gen2 sedan would definately revive proton and bring back confidence to buyers (eventhough neo already did the job but the real big market is sedan! gen2 have the look, if quality build is up to savvy and neo standard it would be a bomb ) variable valve timing would be a plus! so is it confirmed gen2 sedan going to have variable valve timing?
and i hope they make more height room for rear passenger OT : i would really love to see a neo coupe (putra replacement model maybe?) with higher cc campro with variable valve timing it would be celica killer |
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Jan 27 2007, 08:25 AM
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i dun thing the new thingy is Variable valve timing but variable intake manifold (VIM) or something...
cheers. |
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Jan 27 2007, 08:48 AM
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the vvt should be the CPS.
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Jan 27 2007, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(Flizzardo @ Jan 27 2007, 04:51 AM) if its done right gen2 sedan would definately revive proton and bring back confidence to buyers (eventhough neo already did the job but the real big market is sedan! gen2 have the look, if quality build is up to savvy and neo standard it would be a bomb ) variable valve timing would be a plus! so is it confirmed gen2 sedan going to have variable valve timing? I doubt they'll redo the roof coz;and i hope they make more height room for rear passenger OT : i would really love to see a neo coupe (putra replacement model maybe?) with higher cc campro with variable valve timing it would be celica killer1. extra design work 2. might look ugly 3. drag co-efficiency will be different 4. extra spare parts to keep in service center Might as well just have a Gen.2 sedan, if it is good then kill the Waja. Coz dowan these two models fight among themselves. Engine technology wise I don't think Proton will come up with anything new, there are people who said Lotus can help but Lotus streangths is in chasis design not engines, thats why Lotus never ever has its own engine for any of its cars. It would be less troublesome for Proton to keep the same Campro engine now in Waja, Neo and Gen.2 so spares can be unified thus lowering cost. Celica killer? Have to see in terms of performance or what. Performance wise that car isn't much but it does have the looks. |
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Jan 27 2007, 02:22 PM
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Lotus is pretty good with engines what?
The Exige 240S, 240hp from only 1.8. But supercharged la. But the rumoured supercharged Waja can happen with the help of Lotus. |
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Jan 27 2007, 03:04 PM
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if me ain't wrong, the Exige uses Toyota engine.
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Jan 27 2007, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(shackks @ Jan 27 2007, 03:04 PM) if me ain't wrong, the Exige uses Toyota engine. yaya... done-up 2ZZ-GE.... |
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Jan 27 2007, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(shackks @ Jan 27 2007, 03:04 PM) if me ain't wrong, the Exige uses Toyota engine. Yeah, they are good at modifying an engine. |
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Jan 28 2007, 01:51 AM
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 27 2007, 02:22 PM) Lotus is pretty good with engines what? highly doubt a supercharged production model from proton!The Exige 240S, 240hp from only 1.8. But supercharged la. But the rumoured supercharged Waja can happen with the help of Lotus.QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jan 27 2007, 08:23 PM) Yeah, they are good at modifying an engine. they see campro engine they... modifying a supercar and passanger car engine is two very different things. passanger cars are biased towards reliability while supercars are towards performance. plus they tuned the engine they didn't go add CPS+VIm technology onto it, 2ZZ-GE should be VVT-i |
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Feb 6 2007, 10:45 PM
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darn... those are the pix i took ages ago at the proton plant... no real security back then (perhaps cos it was a scrapyard) lol... u can't see the inside, the windows were solid black. been forwarded like crazy, even got it back in my email
. shot it together with the (then covered) savvy, juara concept, abandoned pajero mini concept n concept satria cabrio (which made me laugh cos some emails said it was comin soon). sweet memories...  |
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Feb 7 2007, 05:59 PM
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My Ex-Boss now the Head of Corporate Planning @ Proton confirms this GEN-2 Sedan..which will debut in June.
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Feb 7 2007, 06:31 PM
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What are they planning to call it?
Lol bet they are coming up with funny names.. |
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Feb 7 2007, 06:47 PM
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the spyshots, look like the front bumper is taken from a accord and i dont need to say more about the rear.
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Feb 7 2007, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(nerd nation @ Feb 7 2007, 06:47 PM) the spyshots, look like the front bumper is taken from a accord and i dont need to say more about the rear. yup, that pic was photoshopped from an accord (front) and a 5-series (rear)  |
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Feb 7 2007, 10:48 PM
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If they plan to release it in June some spyshot picture should be available soon. It's hard to get new Proton model spyshot nowadays. I remembered before the NEO,and savvy was released there are alot of website with NEO or Savvy spyshot picture.
I really hope Proton can win back the market with this model. NEO is a good model but Malaysians prefer a sedan so making a sedan is the right decision. |
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