hermm.. maybe not cost effective.. simpler system and less hassle.. the downside for EPS is when alternator or battery got problem, so does the EPS..

Great. I prefer the V spec also. Was playing around with the air con during test drive.

Not into so much of debate, on Wish vs Sienta.

But in term of safety, I always rate a car with VSC (less airbags) > non-VSC (more airbags)      we need VSC to safe the car from losing control and avoid accident.

And is Wish fitted with VSC ?  No right as it belongs to the older batch of Toyota models.

We can compare, because its at the same price range. Just that it is different, one is a recon, while one is new with local warranty. The choice is always up to the buyer, because its your money, not mine  But bias should not be riddled with half truths and misleading views. I'm not bias to either the wish or the sienta, I dislike UMW Toyota and the way the Malaysian automotive industry works (AP-cronies), but I like cars.
Thing is, its not much of a debate. Apart from the price, entirely different car, and one is recon vs one is new with full warranty. Many people will choose the new car with warranty -- a logical choice. Plus someone else asked about it, so just dropping my view with some facts.

We're talking about the 2009 onwards Toyota Wish, not the model sold by UMW Toyota.
Wish is fitted with VSC. It also comes with a 7 speed super CVT for fuel economy. I think the Wish looks quite handsome, but alas, no power sliding doors. Personally I'd prefer power sliding doors for MPV, cause the whole idea of MPV is to haul people around right? Stop in front of the school, power door opens and your kids go off, and you can close the doors automatically from the driver's seat. Macam Vellfire.

if it comes with sliding doors, its called van 

vellfire = premium van 

another big point u forgot to mention.. it is also the reason why i didnt chose wish over sienta..
rear aircon, especially for our hot weather country.. this is kind of important.. because of this one big point i chose sienta, not the 5 years warranty, not the sliding power door, or bigger boot space with low level floor..

mmmm... its a practical small Family true mpv (really can fit 7 ppl unlike other small mpv that the rear row is uncomfortable for adult at rear) with goodies such as power sliding doors.

but i went for 3rd test drive with 6 adult averagely with weight 65kg, i felt the pinch.... maybe due to the small engine size v CVT .... just my personal problem....  overall its a perfect car below 100k. maybe is my problem.

Actually i looking for small size mpv & in fact most of the time only my wife , i & my son on the ride. very seldom go beyond 5 ppl.
now i looking at alza advance (which cost less rm30k) v about the same size (although the third row is less comfortable & no power door compare sienta) & same engine capacity . of cos toyota more reliable & higher quality. my own findings (to myself only), why spend extra rm30k just for a brand & powerdoors where the car also is more suitable for 5 seater ? sorry to all othera sienta lover if my comment offended you, as i said, thats my findings & conclusion that apply to my self.

i went test drive the alza & felt that the conventional auto gearbox deliver power more instance compared CVT (i knew CVT more comfortable & some said more reliable & powerful ). but i am user of 1st gen vios (1.5) & forte (2.0) where both also conventional autogear box, maybe due to this CVT gearbox behavior still temporary unacceptable for me. (again i repeat , this only apply to me, no offence)

i will still keep track on this thread as i not make final decision yet. currently alza/livina/mazda 5 (2nd) is on my list. ofcos exora is out of my list as i dont like the shape & i am bit of 'carcist'.

Bro.. still available for viewing at 1U?

Saw in FB that someone already have their Sienta, lucky them!

owner of sienta since yesterday..
yup, i agree with the conventional auto is faster response compare to CVT.. I myself also from vios 2nd gen, as for me paying extra rm30k isnt just for power sliding door and brand.. more to rear aircon, VSC (better safety), 3rd row which can accommodate adult, larger and practical space and toyota known reliability..

my wife n kids sat at rear, she mention really comfort compare vios n even CX-5.. summore with rear aircon so really comfortable.. toyota know its comfort, so same with sienta.. handling is where it weakness.. floating when high speed which also the same case for vios last time, cornering with it can feel the body roll..
another thing to highlight is the turning radius, not so small as vios.. at 5.7 meter turning radius is kinda big (only for V spec), lower spec is 5.2 meter..

haha.. u know la LPT2 highway.. too long with straight road.. so speed maintain 120-140km/h, i think can do higher speed but then what for? its a family mini MPV with 1.5 engine combine with CVT gbx weight around 1.3 tonne..

well it depend how u define large and practical..
as for me, i'm satisfied with it.. enjoying it while "balik kampung" recently.. MID display sure make it more fun to drive as u can choose a lot of view option depend on ur desire..