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SUSfuzzy
post Jun 30 2016, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(zzstormriderzz @ Jun 30 2016, 04:32 PM)
Dear all,
Outside of Malaysia, investment banking average 50%-100% higher than consulting salaries, with the difference increases significantly as the seniority increases, although consulting compensates with perks that banking does not offer- from better travel packages, to more generous health and retirement packages.

However, is that the general case in Malaysia? Anyone cares to give insight as to how it differs as compared to local IB vs consulting salary?

Edited: Sorry for much general post previously. By the industries outside of Malaysia I am comparing buldge bracket banks (BBs) with MBB consulting (McKinsey, Bains, Boston). In Malaysia, I am looking at comparison between our local top tier investment banks (CIMB and Maybank) with MBBs consulting.
Lower tier consulting firms like Accenture are discarded from the topic as I am only looking at top tier consulting firms. But for local investment banks I have to compare them with MBBs, since foreign investment banks do not have significant presence as the local IBs.
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MBB pays much better if you are looking at entry level. However, IBs is pretty dependent on the roles you take on and for the revenue generator jobs, the bonuses can be really massive, to a point it eclipses the MBB.

But, I don't recall for the more senior positions there would be much difference, most comfortably are looking at RM50-RM80k? You have to be specific when you talk about pay, are you talking base, total cash, equities, total comp?
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post Jun 30 2016, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(zzstormriderzz @ Jun 30 2016, 05:51 PM)
I am talking about total comp. Sorry didn't explicitly explained this on earlier post.
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I'll need to check with my MBB peers (which is quite stingy with their comp info), but MBB should be the better one for the more junior level, competitive in your mid and lower for the senior vis-à-vis the IB side. That's because once you get to the more senior positions for both, your monthly should be relatively be the same but there is a better chance at a generous bonus, stock options, car ownership and cash allowances plus the other perks that just tips it over the MBB.

However, both are pretty different spectrums of job.
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post Jul 1 2016, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(HawkreiN @ Jul 1 2016, 01:26 AM)
What is the objective of this comparison? These jobs are in limited supply and are only available to a small group. Might not be the ideal position for you.

Research is vital - you would have obtained the information you seek through more reading. These are highly different fields - I don't believe you understand the rigour and nature of the indistries. You don't understand the firms - at the very least, get the names right.

To answer your question, the base for MBB far exceeds that of local tier 1 IBs. Even accounting for bonuses, the overall package for MBB is higher.

This would be different for bulge bracket banks vs MBB.

Fuzzy, we have spoken about this in the past. Speak to your MBB peers, you'll know what I mean.
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Yeap, he's asking about the bulge brackets and my comments is as per such. I'm not sure if the bulge bracket banks he has in mind though, as those that immediately springs to my mind most likely only have a rep office here and one would probably need to go to SG to have a much proper setup.

If he's comparing between the local MBB hires and the local tier 1 IBs, the senior levels are comparable. If he's talking about MBB hires in general, they are better off.

Edit: Like I mentioned, my MBB peers are quite secretive with their side of comp, partly because it's a tight industry and partly because we have pinched a few of their people before.. Going by the benchmark available to me (which might be way off), my comments are grounded as such. I would appreciate if you could whisper some numbers for my personal consumption, and myself likewise biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by fuzzy: Jul 1 2016, 11:33 AM
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post Jul 4 2016, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(siew14 @ Jul 1 2016, 09:46 PM)
I m keen to know ts's qualification and his intelligence

Maybe I m incompetent, but get into those places is not easy yo unless you are backed Dato or tan Sri. Lol
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MBBs? You pretty much have to be Ivy league, your Dato and TS's doesn't hold much bearing unless it comes with money in consulting deals.

 

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