hmm..interesting. my BIL is driving cerato maybe 10 years already so far no complain from him.
also noticed not in your list lol.

You are right then. I also own a 2012 Myvi. And I've taken a ride on all newer Perodua models and all of them really have that Myvi feeling. Personally also I'd like to avoid buying any Perodua now. I guess it's good as a second car or kereta pasar/surau, but for sure none of Perodua cars can make me feel like it's a bit good or comfortable or nice.

Unless one day Perodua can make a small car that feels good like a Picanto, that would be a different story.

I hope that my 2012 myvi is the first and last Perodua I own.

Is the owner think the repair cost is acceptable to keep repair and use the model?

Most of them sold it off.

Also, a colleague bought Sonata (hyundai) 2.4l only 100K on promotion. After 1 year issues keep popping up I had to listen to him for another year complaining, lastly drag him to UMW convince him trade in for Camry then peace & quiet next 10 years.



This post has been edited by dogbert_chew: Jul 19 2024, 12:37 PM

lmao dare i ask which year sonata it was?

2005 or 2006

whoa....now i wonder why most youtuber review second car (not sales man type, some proclaim car repair boi) especially forte and cerato say maintenance almost same like japan car....

if u only consider purchase price of coz it is cheap
i mean i can buy a used bentley for 90k new it is 400k but i know the maintenance is going to be a killer.



bezza is an a-segment car
you're going to c-segment car
upkeep alone will be a huge difference.

typical service for a bezza can settle under rm150 or under rm100.
lowest for c-segment car especially 2000cc forte your cost is doubled coz the cubic capacity is doubled.
so that's a budget of rm200 minimum.
and your bezza using punny wheels the rubber is cheaper.
c-segment you're looking at a minimum of 16" rubber



ask him a honest question.
he kept it for 10 years because he truly loves it or after settle 9years or 7 years loan the depreciation didn't leave him much RV to buy another car, or he rather drive it until it rots then only buy new.



perodua business model is to make cars for the people.
they make reliable and cheap to maintain cars.
they make their cars look ganas with bodykit but the cars themselves are quite mild.

don't hold your breath for perodua ever making anything exciting.

you want excitement there will be additional cost involve.
let's say for example a BMW.
new purchase price being high, put that aside let's talk about maintenance.
german philosophy is you follow the maintenance schedule to the letter, e.g. if your tire still got 80% treadwear left if the service center say change, you change.
if a japanese car usually mechanic considering your pocket will tell you to drive until a part kaput then only replace that ONE part.
you drive a german car until a part kaput, you have to replace a few other parts connected to it.

koreans make great turbo's because in their home country it is diesel biased.
diesel biased thus always gotta use turbo coz diesel good low end shitty top end.
korean turbo diesel or turbo petrol are decent.
n/a is like .... ok lahhh

i think him and me on cars is the same mindset. its good enough. so why change? unless a lot of issues or trouble.
same with me, I'm still driving a 2011 honda city.

do i like it? yes, coz its loan free for many years now and its reliable and just worry wear and tear. even if needed fix, its expected with the age.
do I feel like wanting to change to better car? of course yes but at what cost?

I rather focus on other stuff.

Will i stick to the car no matter what? No of course not. There will be a time when we need to replace it but it's just not now

oh your 2011 honda city is actually one of the better ones.
it uses a 5AT slushbox instead of CVT.
reliability better, however power lag and heavier fuel consumption due to gear ratios might be a small price to pay

I cant deny that in the beginning the price was the big reason, then slowly I realised there are much to consider as well, so thanks for pointing it out. Also your explanation to the other guy about c-segment maintenance which I started to aware after I joined and observe some of the cerato fb group. Guess I would have to relook at the 50k price range again then

yea, i'm fully aware that segment and maintenance part, and yes i'm planning to upgrade my ride with limited budget. thanks for pointing out

so is there a recommendation of a c-segment car that can be cheap to buy and cheap to maintain(within c-segment range)?

btw only consider 1.6 or below cc due to road tax

This post has been edited by mingxpro: Jul 24 2024, 09:36 AM

ohh i see, haiz but forte and cerato both non-turbo..... but will they tahan than turbo model?

This post has been edited by mingxpro: Jul 24 2024, 09:36 AM

2015 Honda Civic FB 2.0 - this is the model before Civic Ketam, this is less appreciated because it doesn't have a Type-R brother and doesn't look as handsome and timeless as the FD. FD does look better but too many abused ones in the market and above 10 years old kinda hard to get a loan. I recommend this, this is the last Civic you can get with 2000cc engine after this the top spec comes with the 1.5 turbo, I'd recommend u take a proven 2000cc non-turbo engine. The gearbox is no CVT bullshit a proper 5 speed auto slushbox with good ratios.

2019 Proton Perdana 2.0 - buying this perdana is a sure way to get a cheap 8gen Honda Accord. Spare parts for this is still abundant unless you need specific Perdana bodypanels. You can get a decently new one for Bezza full spec money. It is a comfortable and pocket friendly D-segment sedan. Diamond in the rough only punters know how to get a good deal.



If you only consider 1600cc below for c-segment you're targeting pre-2010 cars, or post 2017 cars with turbo.
I don't recommend for either coz one is too old and might become a money pit.
Another is turbo might be more trouble than it is worth if u r just considering cheaper roadtax.

Forte, Cerato and Suprima fall into that category of still having 1600cc post 2010 but I can't recommend any.
They're not that expensive to maintain maybe a 10-20% premium over japanese makes when u finding certain and specific parts for it.
Minor service is just as cheap as the others.
However, they don't drive all that well and fuel economy is quite terrible.

thanks so much, the Civic definitely look like the beast to me
one last question, is there any good options for car around 1.6cc?

Brand new Persona 1.6liter RM48K

already have a 2020 model at home thou... thats why I'm looking for foreign car brand alternative

nope
2006 onwards most move from 1600cc to 1800cc because of emissions and safety regulations adding weight so cars need more power
only those that weren't in the curve still sold 1600cc n/a
under powered, under safety but usually pour a lot of accessories onto it, usually hyundai/kia style