hybrid city, hybrid jazz if thats your thing? city top end otherwise (more goodies and fc is already great)

your requirements are literally nonexistent.

personal loan kut?

everything.... obviously consumables like the tranny fluid is more exp, you need more engine oil, bigger tires also cost more. absorbers, bushings and mountings obviously are larger, beefier cost more. this bit is obvious to say the least. You have more features in the car like abs wheel sensors, which can fail (not that they often if at all) that point is a given i guess.
running costs wise, its a bigger heavier car, it drinks more petrol, its got a bigger engine and is valued more so roadtax and insurance is also heavier.

not really maintanance related, body panels and trims also cost more in event of an accident but i guess you have insurance for that.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Dec 27 2017, 12:55 PM

very odd... remember replying to this yesterday~

better double check what the requirements are. I remember it being 7-8 years max, dont think it was 10. You should also find out what happens if your car goes over the age limit maybe next year or the year after.

given the requirements the flx is probably your best bet? Not really a problematic car, fc is reasonable (wont call it frugal but it isnt that bad) , parts are easy and is basically as cheap as can be for a modern-ish car. (heck its what taxi drivers use so maintanance/parts definitely ok).

option 2 is the persona. think it a s a bigger fatter saga. i assume its rated under the same class as the saga so in terms of grab/uber value not as good a deal. running costs are basically similar, but uses more fuel and some spare parts do cost abit more.

the timing belt isnt really an issue (to me at least), not like you replace it so often, nor is it extremely expensive. 400 easily be enough to cover the belt+workmanship, (i believe it can be as cheap as 300, cannot remember)

value is in the eyes of the beholder!

to most, an old junk car, nmah not worth the effort.

forget brand new with 30k
why are you thinking of changing? need a bigger car? what are your priorities? honestly you cant get much more with just 30k compared to your viva if you want something that new. Can only think of the axia, iriz, saga and at most, largest the persona.

20000km 1.6 iriz possible? yes, technically anything is possible, you might stumble upon a good deal... just make sure its not an accident/flood car OR a car with a molested odometer. (am really not sure why you want one with less than 20k on it. would rather take a well serviced and cared for 50k car over a trashed 20k car)

safest car you can get is the iriz, forget the new persona, way out of your budget (interior space is actually basically the same, just has an added arse). best you go view the car, rear legspace is kinda limited, not that it really matters i guess since you are upgrading from a viva

yes, and no.....

you really havent given much details...
1)is it stock?
2)are you buying to modify? or just buying to use?
3)eg 95, there are many models, blue tags red tags (i think there are black tags as well? too many variants to remember). they typically are sedans, some are hatches, some are coupes

whatever it is, its a very old car, you better know how to view a car before getting one of those, or bring a mechanic along. if you are buying to modify or buying modified you better as heck know what you are looking at.

you have options...

1)iriz
one decent car, no real issues with it other than the rear passenger legroom and boot. fc is decent, handling is decent plus its fairly well equipped. Maintanance is also fairly low

2)saga
needs no introduction, very similar to the above, slightly diferent dimentions (i believe its narower but has more legroom) with a boot and maintanance is around the same. One plus here is you can pretty much get a new unit.

*the cvt in these cars are kinda sluggish, you might take a while to get used to it.

3)axia
even smaller, even cheaper to run than the above 2! but its also less nice to drive if you ask me.

4)myvi
the reign of the old myvi is prettymuch gone now... the new myvi makes the old car seem silly.


go test drive em, nothing to lose but some time.

otr?
a simple browse through mudah should tell you what its market value is like. 50-60 thereabouts...

i dont think theres a correct answer to your question.....

all i can advise you is to get to know the models well.. that way you should be able to tell what is original from modified bits. Be warned, modifying these cars can become very expensive... halfcuts cost a bomb. be prepared for that.

tbh, don't know the car well, but i don't hear of any major issues with them.

The only downsides to this model is... 1) its the older 'not so popular' model. 2)it hasn't got mazda's new fancy sky-active, only an older ford engine which isn't really special (the whole car in general isn't anything special tbh)



if you dont mind the smaller size and can get used to the cvt, the persona is decent. Pretty much a decent all rounder other than its rather small size (significantly smaller than the older persona which is huge in comparison).

the preve is definitely the larger of the two. And imo less refined (never tested both one after another but that's what i feel anyway). Its also 'less frugal' being a heavier car and all that.


the simple answer for this is kinda obvious, don't you think?
turbos = more parts that can fail. simple as that..

Now, the real question: "is that additional power worth the hassle."
I cannot actually give you a straight answer. I know of 4 guys owning 5 of them ( sample is a mix of suprimas and preve turbos and if not wrong all 100% stock). very different experiences. of the 5, 3 are relatively trouble free, the other 2, have been in and out of the sc multiple times, stuff like och, electrical gremlins, stuff failing.

if the jazz is in there, the myvi deserves to be listed. Why? cause the bloody thing generally offers basically the same and more for a lower pricetag but you get a local badge.

rio is kind of a sad guy here.... looks good comes with stuff like a sunroof BUT... that engine + tranny combo....


life27 if you go for a non-turbo model, they have hardly any issues. Join the preve club to learn more.

never heard of them before... my experience is through mudah, carlist, zth and fb owner groups.

honestly, mudah has the largest selection and while there are many scams, i frankly believe (personally) anyone with 2 brain cells could figure out if theres a scam going on or not... buying cars is easy, really easy, and straightforward, its the finding and inspecting bit (and ofc if you want to involve yourself in illegal/hangky pangky stuff, you are just asking for it)

carlist is full of dealers (basically a dealer portal anyway) but theres a decent selection. While im very distrustful of dealers, i know there are decent people out there.

zth has the better selection of modified cars. uually owners passionate about their cars (or owners trying to dump rides after they get tired or dont wana deal with them anymore) good thing bout forums is, you can see some sort of history by stalking the owners lol.

fb is one of the best places BUT you must know what you want. These owners however do have the tendency to list their cars at fairly high prices. Its sort of a believe in a group that their cars are t them, worth such a figure and if you lowball, they might rage so keep note of that.

no.... the old persona which was wider and much heavier handles even better! But in its class, and for the price, its handling is pretty good (do note that its competition is nonexistent in the class given its selling price in malaysia)

persona is alright, little rattles here and there, sort of expected? even the new myvi i tested had a rattle coming from the back.

polo is a very simple car, nothing special if you ask me, you're just paying for the brand. Nothing really special about the car. Maintenance is on the high side in the sc, no way around that.

If you ask me, the built quality of the myvi and polo are not really far apart. Myvi just comes with a crapton more features and costs less to maintain. There is however something about the myvi you should know.... might be a buzzkill for you. Its waiting list. Its selling so well, its best selling model (top spec grey) has a 4 month long waiting list. Kinda speaks about its value no?

yes and no....
if you get the cfe, no. if you get the simpler na models, its mostly the same.

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lol sample size of one isnt really an accurate gauge but i guess he is the only one who spoke up?


hondas also have their downtime. sometimes crap happens, thats it.


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persona is alright, little rattles here and there, sort of expected? even the new myvi i tested had a rattle coming from the back.

polo is a very simple car, nothing special if you ask me, you're just paying for the brand. Nothing really special about the car. Maintenance is on the high side in the sc, no way around that.

If you ask me, the built quality of the myvi and polo are not really far apart. Myvi just comes with a crapton more features and costs less to maintain. There is however something about the myvi you should know.... might be a buzzkill for you. Its waiting list. Its selling so well, its best selling model (top spec grey) has a 4 month long waiting list. Kinda speaks about its value no?

dont bother fixing it up... repairs would cost more than the difference in value.

you can try carsome and see what whey are willing to offer you

scrap that... didnt see the manual bit.... or read it properly in the 1st place


This post has been edited by lsm1991: Mar 14 2018, 05:50 PM

^this...

with used cars are always chances of getting a slightly problamatic car (sometimes its only a small thing, sometimes its major).

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Mar 26 2018, 01:07 PM