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post Oct 22 2017, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Oct 22 2017, 05:11 PM)
Is it true for car more than 10 years bank will not give out loan anymore? Wondering how do they calculate what is the maximum loan tenure for used car. Tq.
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its been this way for a loooong time.

QUOTE(Wolffer @ Oct 22 2017, 05:14 PM)
Hi guys, 2015 Honda City, S Spec selling a OTR t RM60,800. Price ok?

https://www.carlist.my/used-cars/honda-city...ike-new/4145050
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60k is okish, not really great or anything (thats an S+ btw)
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post Oct 24 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Nursh @ Oct 24 2017, 04:21 PM)
Hi all, I hope car professionals can advice me on getting a car. Currently studying in KL for another 15 months(may buy car within this period) before I'll move back to Kuching Sarawak. Not urgently needed, if it's worth the wait for price of cars to drop, I may even buy car on 14th month while I'm still in KL. As of now, I walk and use bus to college, occasionally Uber/Grab if I'm too tired/heavy rain. I will not do part time Uber/Grab with the car, so MFG year doesn't matter.

1. Not local car brand, no rare brand which will cause the difficulty of finding spare parts.
2. RM20-RM30k
3. Used
4. 1.6 above
5. Transmission: Manual if possible, otherwise auto will do
6. NA or FI ? Probably FI for low FC.
7. Type: Sedan, Coupe, Convertible.
8. Low/Average maintenance cost, planning to use the car for at least 3-5 years while still studying+part time work. Low FC. Expecting peanut salary in the future, but backup from FAMA sponsorship may be possible.

Additional Remarks: I'll not drive the car too far, mostly just around city. However, I do drive fast, I'd like the engine of the car not to fail on me in case if I do drive fast.  On top of that, I'll most likely ship the car from KL to Kuching Sarawak as most good cars sold at reasonable price can be found at KL instead of Kuching. Besides that, I'll most likely stay in Kuching so the spare parts of the car must be easily available in Kuching. I'm currently interested in any BMW cars (year 2000 and above), Honda Accord/Toyota Camry, but I don't really know the maintenance cost for them.
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im not sure if you have your expectations managed. But anyway im not sure what is considered 'fast' to you. When you try mix, old, powerful, reliable and low fc together it usually becomes turns into a dream.

Some issues and few notes
-Probably FI for low FC. with this money, you can barely afford any newer car, and trust me, older turbo-ed cars drink fuel and cost a fair amount to maintain, trust me.
-Sedan, Coupe, Convertible. yeah no convertibles, coupes possibly but u might not like em depending on what you consider decent.
-spare parts of the car must be easily available in Kuching. i have limited knowledge as to what you guys have over there, so i can only play guess, you have to figure out part availability over there.
-BMW cars (year 2000 and above) FORGET IT. an e46 is as far as you go, its VERY difficult to find a manual and im not sure you are ready for something like that given the peanut salary infomation.
-Honda Accord/Toyota Camry If you want a manual, keep walking
-cash only is key.

i think its best you figure out a few things 1st
-max engine capacity (there are huge cc cars available for a steal cause nobody wants to pay the roadtax for them)
-how much will you pour into the car in a year? (rt, insurance servicing, tires? all in)
-whats considered to be a 'decent' fc (expected l/100km)
-what is fast? whats fast to me might be slow to you (not like you can go fast anywhere in kl anyway)


so far, the best i can come up with:
i)satria neo cps (more of a hatch but yeah.)
-cheap to jaga (i guess proton bits are easily available over there too?)
-cant really go wrong long as not abused
-performance is passable, handling really good for the pice its sold for.
-fc isnt great, but it isnt terribly bad
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post Oct 24 2017, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Nursh @ Oct 24 2017, 07:17 PM)
-Fast is high acceleration and top speed about 150km/h will do since there is not much long road in Kuching that I can drive on.
just so you know, my old saga could hit 150kmh. almost anything can do this, question is how long a runway you need
-None of the turbo stuff then if they're expensive to maintain.
-Decent coupes to me would be luxurious interior and decent anything else, I'll drive alone most of the time.
yeah anything luxurious and in good condition will cost more than what you have
-For spare parts, if there isn't cheap parts available in Kuching then I'll probably resort to online purchase from Peninsular instead.
-Yeah BMW E46, automatic transmission will do as well. I do expect peanut salary but 0 commitment with the bank(not even PTPTN), I don't have anything to pay. Even though the expected minimum salary would be around RM1.6k/month due to part time/fulltime studying, it will not stay that way for long though as I do have plans to do side business as well.
i)1.6k per month u can maintain it, but if anything major happens, you go broke on the spot.
ii)you did mention you need it to be reliable, google bmw acronyms.... (they were not messing about when joking bout the name)
iii)a 1.8 4 potter beemer is underpowered. 2.0l 6 potter is useless, 2.5l us powerful but roadtax?

-Honda Accord/Toyota Camry, I don't mind an automatic transmission as well for these 2 models.
-Cash would be possible.
more of a u dont have a choice thing

Figured out the best things that I preferred:
-Max 2.5CC engine capicity, as anything beyond that the road tax would cost a lot even in Sarawak. (RM100 increment on each 0.1CC)
with ur budget i dont even suggest you even touch anything passing the 2000cc line
-How much to pour into the car a year? Probably the average Toyota car yearly fees, not sure how much, as long as not over your average Toyota car maintenance fees will do.
figures would be better (also again, forget your beemer, its several times more than a typical toyota)
-Decent FC to me would mean better than RM10/30KM. It's about 4.7L/30 km during that time when I was still in Kuching, about 1L/6.38 km, that's what I'm familiar with due to the previous car that I drove.
okay this is great, means basically anything works for you.... thats more than 15l/100km, even my super thirsty car gets better milage than that
-I'd prefer not to get a local car, because already owned one. Too bad the exterior of the car is really bad, previous owner didn't maintained it well. Experiences with it wasn't the best, luckily the engine is imported from Japan. The exterior is too bad that respraying it would just be waste of money, it had too many rust and most of the interiors were deteriorated too.
protons designed in the 90's are not the same as newer ones...... strongly advise you view one anyway. Engine isnt its strongest point BUT will easily meet your requirements
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i have no idea however why you car comparing d segment cars against coupes..... and your filters are almost useless (almost anything can reach 150kmh, everything will easily manage 15l/100km even in horrible conditions)... so im going to dump out a few generic easy options....

sporty kind:
swift sport (2nd gen)
+MANUAL YO!!!
+its a gocart on the road!!
-parts not as common BUT obtainable here
-designed to drink ron 97
-maintenance is reasonable for a sporty
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mitsubishi colt
+1.5 turbo
+mivec+turbos more win
-kinda rare.
-maintenance is a question mark (i dont know it well enough BUT typically mitsu parts can be obtained)
satria neo
+cheaper than the above 2
+easier to jaga than the above 2
-just crappier engine compared to the above 2


Typical generic options (smaller engines ofc not like the camry/accord is faster lol)
jazz
+automatic only
+fairly frugal, will meet all your other requirements
+parts EASY
swift (normal)
+similar as the above
myvi 1.5
+again similar
+even cheaper to jaga
mazda 2
+sporty kinda feeling

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post Oct 27 2017, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(huruhara @ Oct 27 2017, 09:02 AM)
i'm looking for hyundai elantra 1.6 manual. Found it in carlist.com, but the location is Johor & Sarawak. any elantra 1.6 manual driver here?
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But why?
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post Oct 27 2017, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(huruhara @ Oct 27 2017, 10:33 AM)
3 pedals user since 2003,  biggrin.gif
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thats all good, 3 pedaler myself, but that car choice is ermmmmmm
well...
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post Oct 27 2017, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(junfu1988 @ Oct 27 2017, 10:06 PM)
Getting a used car for my gf to replace her old manual iswara.  Budget 20 to 45k. Either let her drive my old altis and get myself a used hashback Ford focus or buy a used fiesta. 

I heard Ford is not so cost-friendly on parts and maintenance.  Any thought?
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well..... compared to ur altis it will.... nuuu i'll let GalaxiasWilliam or dares tell you all about it!

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post Oct 28 2017, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(huruhara @ Oct 27 2017, 02:02 PM)
elaborate pls...hehe
if not ok..next choice is mazda 3..ok?
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budget berapa and what are you prioritising, so far all i know is you like manuals?
-newer manuals, usually you end up geting very basic stuff
-newer manuals not really that engaging... the bloody ecu and electronic throttle loves to intervene and mess with the drive.

QUOTE(+ @ Oct 27 2017, 10:32 PM)
1. Brand : sushi brand
2. Budget : 90k+
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : -
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI :  ???
7. Type : sedan / suv.
8. Remarks : Family car, so more space the better. More safety and lower maintanence. Drive more on weekend only.
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very general requirements, lets go with the current favorite guy in the street the city (yeah its no longer the vios! laugh.gif )
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post Oct 28 2017, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(raafimatin @ Oct 28 2017, 10:14 AM)
Currently Driving Persona 2008, want to Trade In

1. Brand: Any, but not local or Korean
2. Budget: 30-40K
3. New/Used/Unreg: Used.
4. Specs: 2.0 and Below
5. Transmission. (Automatic)
6. NA or FI: Either one is fine
7. Type: (4 seater Sedan/Hatch)

8. Remarks.
Considered:
Honda Civic FD - Expensive for a Higher Mileage Car.
Volvo S40 - Mixed reviews from forumers.
Lancer GT/Inspira.
Honda Jazz GK - Slightly Over Budget. Poor Handling.
Honda City - Boring compared to my Persona.
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ahh i saw your other thread.... i asked once i will ask again, what are you willing to pay for in yearly maintenance.

Honda Civic FD
- admitedly mahal, but for fairly decent reasons?
- forget getting an fd2 for under 40k, afaik, still just over 40k.
- If you feel it isnt worth your dough, skip it

Volvo S40
- your call

Lancer GT/Inspira.
- i personally like this option
- newer and all in all decent car with decent performance, very few issues. Just no stability control

if kimchi's are in the list, forte~
- also decent, prettymuch decent in all areas, even maintanance
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post Oct 28 2017, 04:21 PM

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ahmai2332 this isnt a thread for advertising. 2nd time you have posted here.


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post Oct 30 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(raafimatin @ Oct 29 2017, 03:15 PM)
@dares need some help here
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dares cause festa. no fiesta, no dares sad.gif
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post Oct 30 2017, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(raafimatin @ Oct 30 2017, 12:00 PM)
But also considering VW Polo 1.6 MPI? Now @Dares? or not?  biggrin.gif
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no..

that wasnt in ur list kan @_@ anyway those are very basic cars, little features je, heck if im not mistaken esc also tadak.
to me, you get a basic simple car, no features, no fancy tech but pay vw pricetag and vw maintanance.....

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post Nov 2 2017, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Nov 2 2017, 12:52 PM)
I think new City Hybrid fits the best on the price for a Hybrid. Of course the Jazz Hybrid as well. But for more gadgets and features i bet it should be Hyundai Ioniq.
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lol basically covers it, reliability of ioniq still abit of a question mark but damn its loaded with the goodies. so damned loaded
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Nov 2 2017, 02:59 PM)
yea. the reliability of kimchi car is not promised. But so far they are improving greatly. Those features put japanese hybrid of the price range into pocket.  brows.gif But new city seems quite good to me. Hybrid + DCT for both  drool.gif
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city hybrid looses out on many of the little features you get on the top line model. And if you compare them you dont really save alot more on the fc figures either. Two people i know have just skipped the hybrid in favor of the top line model. those beautiful lights, leather, curtain airbags? i think theres more the hybrid looses than that. Also comes with the hybrid system to jaga, battery motor.... well kind of makes it more difficult?
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QUOTE(cooljik93 @ Nov 2 2017, 06:49 PM)
not significant on fc ? alamak. I tot it should be way better than the conventional city. Hybrid has better transmission ma. DCT wei. hahah. By the way i like the new gear knob  brows.gif
But if the fc is not so significant, getting the top line should be more better and premium. The hybrid city in my heart is fading away~  bye.gif
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actually on a typical car dct vs cvt, pros and cons... there isnt really a 'better' system.

the hybrid city has a sort of delay off the line....
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QUOTE(Nursh @ Nov 3 2017, 04:36 PM)
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Thanks for the suggestion. However, due to reduction in budget I'll need a revision for a new car suggestion.
Will buy the car on January 2018. Expect to pay cash to avoid interest rate.

1. Not local car brand, no rare brand which will cause the difficulty of finding spare parts.
2. RM10-RM20k
3. Used
4. 1.6 above
5. Transmission: Manual if possible, otherwise auto will be fine too.
6. NA or FI ? NA for cheaper maintenance. 
7. Type: Sedan or even coupe, whichever.
8. Low/Average maintenance cost, planning to use the car for at least 3-5 years while still studying+part time work. Low to average FC will do.

Additional Remarks: Drive mostly around city, some of the time will go for long distance travel (20KM 1 way). Besides that, I'll ship the car back to Kuching and most likely stay in Kuching in the future. So the spare parts of the car must be easily available in Kuching. My driving habit: Aggressive driving, max acceleration most of the time. So please suggest a reliable durable car, thanks.
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Expect to pay cash to avoid interest rate.
no worries, u cant even get a loan for these

too many conflicting demands here
1)Low to average FC AND powerful dont go well together. ALSO even the most fuel efficient car and Aggressive driving, max acceleration most of the time, forget it if, even a viva drinks fuel If you floor it.
-Give up something
2)durable car cause you want to floor it. Any car abused this way will suffer more wear and tear.
-The more power you produce/abuse, the more the wear simple

I dont know what how to advise you here. I suspect you havent really put much thought into what you want and even worse how much you can afford OR actually need to spend on the upkeep of cars yet. (i mean you did even ask about turboed models, beemers, stuff like that)
So... think about it again.... come up with NUMBERS, how much can you afford to spend on it per year. Remember roadtax, insurance AND maintenance, can you spare 3k a year? 2k? Buying something cheap can often result in alot higher long term maintenance than you expect.

Also im sure you have something in mind now, spit it out, maybe i can offer an alternative. At this very point i can only advise you to reconsider local cars. With this budget its the best you will get (now this changes if you can afford hefty maintenance figures, there exist nice cars with peanut resale values but cost a bomb to upkeep)
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QUOTE(lapland @ Nov 3 2017, 08:05 PM)
Hoping for some guidance,  sifus
1. Brand : Japan, Korea, or Conti
2. Budget : sub 200k
3. New
4. Specs : Full Spec
5. Transmission : Auto.
6. NA or FI :  fi
7. Type : seats 4+1  well
8. Remarks : Priority is safety,  comfort and easy maintenance. Not bothered about rv. Currently driving a 2007? Honda city, looking for something modern  with comparable space and booth if it exists
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ur budget is massive for what seems to be very basic requests

want something which is will check all boxes (similar maintanance, size, modern) new city!!

want something which is generally an upgrade? civic.

not bothered about rv?? if power is what ypu want, look no further!! kia optima gt



QUOTE(PuDing92 @ Nov 13 2017, 01:14 AM)
hello sifus.

1) Brand  : Any
2) Budget : <<RM140K
3) New/Used/Unreg : Preferably new
4) Spec : I really opt for an MVP with loads of safety features
5) Transmission : auto
6) NA or FI : Any
7) Type : MPV ( 7 seater ++)
8) Remarks : Just returned from car expo in MAEPS Serdang, and I like the new Toyota    Innova 2.0 X. It kinda fits my need. It is around RM135K iianm. Any review about this car ?
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well if it checks your boxes its alright. am not really an mpv person, cant really help you. Only other decent machine i can think off costs alittle over the innova, the serena s hybrid but its not so well equipped safety wise.



QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Nov 13 2017, 02:25 PM)
Hi guys, first time car buyer here.. I plan to buy a new myvi.

Do you usually submit bank statements, epf, payslip etc to sales agent? He will help me to get loan offer?
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yep, he should handle it



QUOTE(mrhulk @ Nov 13 2017, 09:23 PM)
i have 1 kid..2 years old....
still 1 wife..
got 1 myvi....no more debt on that myvi
my wife just got her driving license...i plan to give her the myvi, so she can go to work herself
i plan to buy used car for my own ....only use to go work, twice a year need to balik kampung from johor to kedah...
so i pick sedan car or small mpv like alza...?
my budget : 20-30K
transmission : auto
special : i expected to use this car for long time...
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tight budget, what you can afford
sx4 - not exactly huge but does the job
latio - same thing
nautica/rush - larger incase you like the type, fc might not be great
persona (older model ofc) - large, spacious, handles great low maintanance, but fc is on the garbage side

QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 14 2017, 08:19 AM)
look for a used Altis year 2006 ~ 2010 fit your budget , solid car , min maintenance & good for expressway & town driving
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he can only afford the e120 which is up to 08 i believe (maybe 09?)


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QUOTE(Chyan @ Nov 26 2017, 12:44 PM)
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 50-60k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used/New
4. Specs : 1.5L+
5. Transmission : AUTO
6. NA or FI : Preferably NA
7. Type : Sedan/Hatchback
8. Remarks : Planning on 10 years of use therefore it has to be reliable.
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easiest question ever, if you want a smartly designed, reliable, car the new myvi ticks all boxes. Its a very good a-b car. The rear space for a car that compact is amazing, the design of the interior is fantastic for a car around that price (feels like any other basic japanese car honestly). Its downsides are, its not like super powerful (tho proven, its as fast as the old 1.5 myvi), its handling is still very myvi like tho long as you dont try fly down the road at 150kmh , not really not an issue, and its going to be super common (the way its packaged at that price point its hilarious)
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been missing for a while....

QUOTE(gonzalo20 @ Nov 30 2017, 07:15 PM)
I need opinions. Is it worth for me to buy Honda city year 2012 to replace my 2014 ford fiesta 1.5 hback? I plan to change to sedan as I'm already married. Target used car price is RM 55k. I might need to topup 10k to cover my old loan. Thanks
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is it really worth it yo YOU? this is only a question YOU can answer... if the fiesta serves you fine... then why?



QUOTE(Secruoser @ Dec 7 2017, 07:46 PM)
1. Brand. Any (but why so many 2003 Kia Spectra?)
2. Below RM10k
3. Used.
4. Specs. Any
5. Automatic.
6. NA or FI? Any.
7. Sedan/Hatch
8. How much to pay foreman to check a used car whether it's safe/worth or not? Thanks!

The car will be used for work-commuting, about 60km mileage per day.

Thanks!
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why so many spectras? cause people try get rid of them, and they just dont sell that well.
10k, lets be realistic i'm guessing you want a frugal cheap to maintain car?

easiest option, an earlier saga blm
+its a workhorse, does its job and moves from a-b with relatively little complaints.
+regular maintenance is low, running costs low, fuel consumption ain't great but not so bad its an issue.
-Its only issue which can be annoying is the iafm module which is kinda crap and can fail. But even then it still runs fine

larger option, persona
+its also a workhorse with plenty of room(much bigger actually) bigger engine and well its pretty much an upsized saga .
+regular maintenance is acceptable (ofc you pay more since some bits like tires are larger), running costs also fairly, fuel consumption is also not great (cause its an even bigger heavier saga).
-same issue with the iafm

then theres everyone's typical answer myvi
-nough said, i dont like these fellas.

QUOTE(ali00 @ Dec 11 2017, 05:27 PM)
Still thinking between jetta, vento, cerato 1.6, rio, focus, iriz, mazda 2/3  sad.gif
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what a random bunch of quite different cars with really... what are you looking for anyway?
have stared for a long time now, cant find much similarities between these models.


QUOTE(myteam94 @ Dec 5 2017, 01:05 PM)
been looking at nissan S15 silvia
quite hard to find almost to stock car
but as long they didnt touch the driver&passenger airbag, i wont mind the other upgrades
lets see.. those airbags have been in the car for how many years? yeah thats right, probably expired so little as makes no difference. There are other more pressing matters.

is it worth to own as a weekend car?
thats really something only you can answer. example, some owners really like to fiddle with their cars, some just send to shops to get them dealt with... it really depends on your definition of worth it.

how's the maintenance? hard or easy, expensive or cheap?
compared to any typical new car for the same amount of money, hard, given its much older. more expensive given its well older and bits obviously cost more.

the price is within my margin
eerm... okay!
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QUOTE(Secruoser @ Dec 12 2017, 06:36 AM)
Thanks! Is there a specific reason why Spectra is unwanted? Something wrong with it?

Noted on Saga BLM. Yeah, just getting a cheap transport for someone at the moment without taking a loan.
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when things do go wrong its expensive (comparatively) and while protons are not exactly fuel efficient.... the spectra can are gas guzzlers. Dealerships don't even want them.

To me, theres no benefit taking the spectra over an old proton..... 10k, you cant really be expecting much, just make sure the car you get isnt too worn out and in need of lots of repairs.
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Dec 12 2017, 09:33 AM)
been looking for RWD, manual car for a weekend car, not looking to fiddle around the car, just buy to drive
not looking at MX-5 due to small and cramped, Rx-8 due to rotary engine maintenance and super high-FC, 350Z due to roadtax (still in-consideration),

Silvia s15 was in the sweet-spot for me, by the way what do you mean "other pressing matters"??
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well.... its an old car, sooner or later some work is probably in order? Remember, its over 10 years old! Its also very difficult to find a stock unit which hasnt been molested or abused. Better bring someone who knows what they are looking at to check them out. The car itself is a pretty solid base, its just a question of what its been put through and if its been maintained properly. Want better answers about the car specifically? join the car group, the owners will be able to provide you more accurate and specific answers.

Miatas, love em or hate em, i guess if the cabin space is an issue no point bringing in the mr-s. Similar idea as the miata, a tiny lightweight body, rear wheel drive car with just enough zest to get it going. Still a fun little car.

Actually the renesis in the rx8 isnt such a heavy drinker compared to an sr20det,where theres power in these old school cars, your fc will take a hit. Theres also the fear of rebuilding them, cant get a straight answer from owners, some say the late gens are alright? im really not sure. The answers from owners are a mixed bag.
rwd cars are nice and all but if you arnt gona be flinging its arse it round the bends, a fwd will do you fine (admittedly might be cause i own a fwd car, so i kind of don't mind them too much especially if you are not looking for one with huge output). ofc given the chance would probably pick a rwd as well biggrin.gif.

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