May 5 2017, 04:04 PM
QUOTE(zenix @ May 5 2017, 12:08 AM)
thanks 
I'm not too sure which version the malaysian market has so i'll lay out the problems that people have in general.
YF = 2011-2014 Sonata
LF = 2015+ Sonata
YF
1. Bluetooth - especially the 2011 model the bluetooth connectivity is shit and voice streaming is crap.
2. TPMS - just an on/off LED type meaning no indication which tire the pressure is low.
3. Pano roof - weird noise like it is going to break when open/close, when you go over bump it makes a sound like it is loose or going to break if the frame gets warped too much.
LF
2015 model seems to fix the bluetooth and panoroof problems.
Top spec will have TPMS indicator like conti's with an value for each tire. Blind spot indicator and adaptive cruise control is also available on this spec.
Talking about Hyundai's I had a very good test on the Ionic a few weeks back.
Kinda busy so didn't write this up sooner.
This isn't a car review per se, but just how Hyundai has changed my perception from a Proton-ish quality manufacturer (when I test drove their first generation hyundai coupe i actually accidentally kicked the side sill away coz it was so poorly installed) to the Ionic which to me they have close the gap in terms of technology nearer to Toyota Prius.
Features which I thought were cool:
1. The front logo isn't a normal logo, it is actually a flat 3d sticker kinda thing, coz it houses the radar system for the auto break, auto cruise and lane keeping assist.
2. At the bottom of the center console is the usual cubby spot people put their keys or phones nowadays, interesting feature is that it is actually a wireless charging station, although it didn't work for my iphone the salesman showed that it works for his samsung galaxy.
3. the auto stuff
a. auto wipers
b. auto breaking - in the menu you can adjust the harshness of this feature or off it
c. auto cruise - i think we've seen the adverts of robot cars that can drive themselves and although this car can't fully do that yet it is almost there, once you set the auto cruise it will almost drive itself as it can maintain a constant speed when no cars are infront of it, or brake and follow the speed of the car infront automatically.
d. lane keeping assist - this one has 3 modes; on/off/auto. off nothing happens, on is just a keep or light indication, auto the car uses the radar at the front to see the white dotted lane lines and the steering actually adjusts itself.
e. auto lights and DRL - lights will turn on by itself when it is dark or in the tunnel, and will stay on for a while after you turn off the car so you got light to enter the house, DRL is also has light sensors so turn off at night. yup not like the kanasai ah beng with their modified HID and always on DRLs blinding people on the opposite direction.
4. battery technology - i didn't do any research on this yet but according to the hyundai staff the battery technology inside the ionic is similar to the ones inside the tesla, they're round similar to AA size batteries loaded into banks. the car has 3 banks of batteries so when there is a failure you just replace a bank not the whole battery pack, the SRSP per bank is less around RM800-1000. additionally these tesla kinda batteries iinm are called the 18650 cell batteries (although tesla is moving on to newer tech they developed called 2170 cell batteries) which are Li-On type batteries more info here which are better than what the Prius has been using which is the NiMH type batteries more info here. TLDR NiMH are crappier stuff we used to use in older phones and camcorders, while nowadays all our phones use the more robust Li-On battery more info here. Also as a bonus if all 3 of the batteries totally fails the car will work like a regular 1600cc hatchback.
5. Driving eco mode vs sports mode. Eco mode is just like any other Eco mode, low rpm low speed and all the usual hybrid gimmicks play their part like start-stop engine, electric only if you drive really slow, etc. What I really like is the Sports mode when you enter this mode the car feels much more ready to pounce as like when you're in the perfect rev range and everything tightens up. In this mode the petrol and electric motor works in tandem so you have the instant pickup from the electric motor which is quite rapid for a hybrid i would say Golf TSI level quickness then the petrol engine backs it up. It was great i was pointing the car at any direction slam on the gas and boom it the horizon reaches you rapidly, i was testing it like a maniac turn a corner then slam the gas then brake then slam the gas again, it was a hoot.....but all this braking helps the electric motors regen braking recharge the battery for another burst of speed. Also when entering sports mode the meter cluster changes from blue to red with a bigger rev counter. According to the staff with the heavy burden of pickup always supported by the electric motor the car even driven in sports mode all the time can still return a diesel like gas mileage of 800kms. FYI electric motors give you instantly 100% of their power from standstill which is why this hybrid with a combined HP of only 140+ hp feels like it can take on some turbo's boys. Some of the things i've talked about are only available on the top spec version but this i feel is the most important and is available on even the base model.
6. Suspension is pretty good with macs at the front and multi-link at the rear, it can corner and outpace the turbo veloster which has punny torsion beams at the rear
7. The digital meter cluster although it cannot zoom in/out and transform to a GPS like the VW digital meter it gives you bigger meters and larger menu coz one of the meter will vanish to show the menu, and when in sports mode the bigger meter will be the rev counter not the tach. But the base model has the normal physical meters and static box for the menu.
that's about it i guess....this car is jam packed with features and this is on top of the standard stuff like traction control, hill start assist, ABS, EBD, ISOFIX seats, 5 star safety rating, 7 airbags (front 2, front side 2, rear side 2, driver knee 1) LED DRL, HID headlamps, blindspot detection system, auto dimming rear view mirror, etc.
it doesn't come with the electric scooter that tucks away at the side of the door like the US version
ahh the ioniq.... very impressive car, the amount of detail to the tech that is thrown into the package is impressive to say the least. Im waiting around for more ppl to buy it, wana see what the public perception of a korean hybrid is like. I'm not too sure which version the malaysian market has so i'll lay out the problems that people have in general.
YF = 2011-2014 Sonata
LF = 2015+ Sonata
YF
1. Bluetooth - especially the 2011 model the bluetooth connectivity is shit and voice streaming is crap.
2. TPMS - just an on/off LED type meaning no indication which tire the pressure is low.
3. Pano roof - weird noise like it is going to break when open/close, when you go over bump it makes a sound like it is loose or going to break if the frame gets warped too much.
LF
2015 model seems to fix the bluetooth and panoroof problems.
Top spec will have TPMS indicator like conti's with an value for each tire. Blind spot indicator and adaptive cruise control is also available on this spec.
Talking about Hyundai's I had a very good test on the Ionic a few weeks back.
Kinda busy so didn't write this up sooner.
This isn't a car review per se, but just how Hyundai has changed my perception from a Proton-ish quality manufacturer (when I test drove their first generation hyundai coupe i actually accidentally kicked the side sill away coz it was so poorly installed) to the Ionic which to me they have close the gap in terms of technology nearer to Toyota Prius.
Features which I thought were cool:
1. The front logo isn't a normal logo, it is actually a flat 3d sticker kinda thing, coz it houses the radar system for the auto break, auto cruise and lane keeping assist.
2. At the bottom of the center console is the usual cubby spot people put their keys or phones nowadays, interesting feature is that it is actually a wireless charging station, although it didn't work for my iphone the salesman showed that it works for his samsung galaxy.
3. the auto stuff
a. auto wipers
b. auto breaking - in the menu you can adjust the harshness of this feature or off it
c. auto cruise - i think we've seen the adverts of robot cars that can drive themselves and although this car can't fully do that yet it is almost there, once you set the auto cruise it will almost drive itself as it can maintain a constant speed when no cars are infront of it, or brake and follow the speed of the car infront automatically.
d. lane keeping assist - this one has 3 modes; on/off/auto. off nothing happens, on is just a keep or light indication, auto the car uses the radar at the front to see the white dotted lane lines and the steering actually adjusts itself.
e. auto lights and DRL - lights will turn on by itself when it is dark or in the tunnel, and will stay on for a while after you turn off the car so you got light to enter the house, DRL is also has light sensors so turn off at night. yup not like the kanasai ah beng with their modified HID and always on DRLs blinding people on the opposite direction.
4. battery technology - i didn't do any research on this yet but according to the hyundai staff the battery technology inside the ionic is similar to the ones inside the tesla, they're round similar to AA size batteries loaded into banks. the car has 3 banks of batteries so when there is a failure you just replace a bank not the whole battery pack, the SRSP per bank is less around RM800-1000. additionally these tesla kinda batteries iinm are called the 18650 cell batteries (although tesla is moving on to newer tech they developed called 2170 cell batteries) which are Li-On type batteries more info here which are better than what the Prius has been using which is the NiMH type batteries more info here. TLDR NiMH are crappier stuff we used to use in older phones and camcorders, while nowadays all our phones use the more robust Li-On battery more info here. Also as a bonus if all 3 of the batteries totally fails the car will work like a regular 1600cc hatchback.
5. Driving eco mode vs sports mode. Eco mode is just like any other Eco mode, low rpm low speed and all the usual hybrid gimmicks play their part like start-stop engine, electric only if you drive really slow, etc. What I really like is the Sports mode when you enter this mode the car feels much more ready to pounce as like when you're in the perfect rev range and everything tightens up. In this mode the petrol and electric motor works in tandem so you have the instant pickup from the electric motor which is quite rapid for a hybrid i would say Golf TSI level quickness then the petrol engine backs it up. It was great i was pointing the car at any direction slam on the gas and boom it the horizon reaches you rapidly, i was testing it like a maniac turn a corner then slam the gas then brake then slam the gas again, it was a hoot.....but all this braking helps the electric motors regen braking recharge the battery for another burst of speed. Also when entering sports mode the meter cluster changes from blue to red with a bigger rev counter. According to the staff with the heavy burden of pickup always supported by the electric motor the car even driven in sports mode all the time can still return a diesel like gas mileage of 800kms. FYI electric motors give you instantly 100% of their power from standstill which is why this hybrid with a combined HP of only 140+ hp feels like it can take on some turbo's boys. Some of the things i've talked about are only available on the top spec version but this i feel is the most important and is available on even the base model.
6. Suspension is pretty good with macs at the front and multi-link at the rear, it can corner and outpace the turbo veloster which has punny torsion beams at the rear
7. The digital meter cluster although it cannot zoom in/out and transform to a GPS like the VW digital meter it gives you bigger meters and larger menu coz one of the meter will vanish to show the menu, and when in sports mode the bigger meter will be the rev counter not the tach. But the base model has the normal physical meters and static box for the menu.
that's about it i guess....this car is jam packed with features and this is on top of the standard stuff like traction control, hill start assist, ABS, EBD, ISOFIX seats, 5 star safety rating, 7 airbags (front 2, front side 2, rear side 2, driver knee 1) LED DRL, HID headlamps, blindspot detection system, auto dimming rear view mirror, etc.
it doesn't come with the electric scooter that tucks away at the side of the door like the US version the rooflines/clearances however.... abit low...
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have always been wondering something. is it possible to trade in two cars for one?
) its a sports car with the looks and feel to it, however i do recommend you find a 2zz manual if you are in it for the speed (The automatics are really slow but if its just for show, does the job). Have seen some decent units of this pairing go for 40k or so. I have spotted some automatic (slowpoke) variants are for some reason going for around 30+k which is a really good price for these cars. Careful tho, some units are really badly trashed then dekitted and spruced up then sold as 'stock' cars, well taken care off, original paint BS
. Maybe I made a mistake to include sedan for now and see comments for SUV/crossover first.
. Only can recomend you have some spare cash in hand if you intend to get one of these. Parts are not exactly cheap.)
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