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Deskihaoz
post Jan 8 2019, 04:51 PM

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1. Brand - Kia K5 Optima
2. Budget 50 - 70k
3. Used
4. Specs - Any
5. Transmission. Auto
6. NA or FI ?
7. Type. D Segment
8. Remarks - Am thinking on k5 optima 2012-2013 pre Facelift and 2014 onwards Facelift...Can any Sifus suggest or advise me any differences between this two generation of car?

Thanks in advanced!!!
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post Jan 12 2019, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(doflamingo1680 @ Jan 1 2019, 12:22 PM)
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2014 Proton Inspira 2.0P - this is a good example of what you should look for, a stock standard car in good condition. 2014 is a good year about 5 years ago, not too old for a decently made car. You won't find Mitsubishi Lancers at this age and price, it is a good deal. Maintenance wise you can use parts from Lancers and because it is a internationally sold model you can get cheap price from anywhere not just proton so prices are competitive.

2012 Toyota Altis 1.8G - if you're worried about Proton badge then you can consider Toyota's, eventhough older by 2 years they're usually made to last so it is fine as long as you get one that hasn't been abused.

QUOTE(kithuei @ Jan 2 2019, 01:45 AM)
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If you're worried about parts price and availability then any Merc or BMW will be better than any Range Rover.
However comparin SUV's from Merc and BMW against Range Rover will be unfair as the Evoque is class leading.
BMW F10 528i is dated but is well received and lesser issues than 3-series.
Looks wise layman can't tell an F10 from G10 so it's okay, as long as you buying recon can get new number plate people will think it is new.

QUOTE(adamhzm90 @ Jan 2 2019, 10:46 PM)
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Yes it is, relatively unloved after the successful FD but it is a competent car.

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The latest facelifts should have rectified this problem via maintenance and software upgrades.
The original price of the car is near 200k so you should expect it's maintenance within cars of that range.
Service center prices will of course be expensive, outside workshops can be spotty, best to join passat car clubs and get to know the trusty workshops within your area.
However, it is surely going to be more expensive to maintain than most Japanese D-segments.
We have to be realistic all the extra power, comfort, safety equipment, etc. will cost you one way or another, Honda Accord/Toyota Camry are quite "kosong" so of course cheaper to maintain.

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Recon they're quite expensive but used they're dirt cheap under 80k, however the main issue i heard from people is maintenance is expensive.
If you can spend at least RM1000 per replacement tire then it's within your means.
Also because it is a turbo car they usually wear tires fast.
And because it is a Porsche, it won't make do with cap ayam tires.
So the main issue is lack of money for most people.

zenix
post Jan 12 2019, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(shmiad @ Jan 8 2019, 06:10 AM)
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How desperate are you?
Is it because of the price or there is a specific reason to choose this model.

QUOTE(Deskihaoz @ Jan 8 2019, 04:51 PM)
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post Jan 13 2019, 12:17 PM

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Hello sifu2 sekalian, asking for recommendation

1. Brand - any
2. Budget - < 10k (buying cash)
3. New/Used/Unreg - used
4. Specs - any
5. Transmission. - any
6. NA or FI ? - dont know about this tongue.gif imma noob. guess any
7. Type. - any
8. Remarks. - just for simple commute (everyday < 40km), and weekend groceries shopping, 2 person, i don't really have good knowledge about cars biggrin.gif
probably using cars for max for 2-3 years
gekizan
post Jan 13 2019, 06:00 PM

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hi guys. just want to ask. my friends selling a recon car at KL. he offer me honda stream 1.8 rsz 2012 unreg price around RM60k.

considered a good deal or not on 2019?
Lochynessie
post Jan 14 2019, 01:02 AM

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1. Honda/perodua

2. 50 - 90k

3. New/Used

4. 1.5 (Perodua)/ 1.5 TC (Civic)

5. Remarks:
I am planning to buy a car by the beginning of 2020 and I am torn between a new myvi or a used civic. I have been following the price of used civic (typically 2016-2017 with 70k mileage) online and it ranges from 85-100k. So my first question is what is a reasonable market price for a civic l have just mentioned, given that the prices online are usually the ideal price for car dealers only. And how much will the civic costs by 2020.

Also if I am going to buy the civic I will have to take a 30-40k loan (5 years) depending on the price of the civic. My pay is around 4.5k. Financially, is it wise to take up the loan with this salary?

The alternative is of course the myvi, which I will probably be able to buy it without getting a loan.

Primarily why I am considering the civic is because I enjoy driving. I have driven both cars and I really like the civic and how it looks. If I get the civic I will probably keep it longer than the myvi.

Thank you for all your input. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 20 2019, 07:19 AM

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1. Brand : Honda or any other
2. Budget : less than 100k. Can consider if slightly higher thou.
3. New/Used/Unreg : New.
4. Specs : Doesnt matter
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : doesnt matter
7. Type : 4 seater.
8. Remarks :

I am trying to search for a car to replace my wifes aging Myvi 1.3. She travels for about 100km daily / 2500km per month and fuel consumption is a concern as well. Honda Jazz seems to be a fit especially Hybrid but im not familiar with the cost and maintenance risk of a hybrid. Anyone can chime in ? Or i am better off with Petrol variant ?

Would appreciate your thoughts into this. Thanks in advance 🙏

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prakash06
post Jan 20 2019, 02:32 PM

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Hello, looking for recommendation to buy a new car. My criteria as below

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 45k-55k
3. New/Used/Unreg : New
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Any
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : Any
8. Remarks : Cheap maintanence, 5-years warranty

Thanks!

zenix
post Jan 20 2019, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(OverweightCrab @ Jan 13 2019, 12:17 PM)
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Search in Facebook, Mudah or any online car listing site for Proton Gen2 1.3 as these are the runt of the family, people think they're under powered and usually are cheaper than the 1.6, don't worry if the 1.3 engine dies as you can fit older Proton / Mitsubishi 4G engines and gearbox combo into that engine bay. The common ones are very cheap and usually labor will cost RM1000 for the job if it is a straight swap.

I have had friends buy one really cheap with dead engine, then he just bought a Mitsubishi 4g15t (1.5 turbo) from the chop shop and installed it, everything together cost him rm4000 at the time as he was lucky the engine was in good enough condition they didn't need to replace any parts when doing the engine conversion. Now it is a powerful yet fuel efficient little beast.

QUOTE(gekizan @ Jan 13 2019, 06:00 PM)
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It is a 7 year old car.
Do check before imported to Malaysia was it used much?
Looking at the car's condition you'll find out the truth, odometers usually lie.
It's a decent deal.

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Since 2020 is still 12 months away many things can change.
Let's just monitor the market and discuss again maybe in October.
If you want a cheap fun car I'd suggest the Toyota Mark X 2.5V6.
It will probably cost you about the same to maintain that as the Civic 1.5T while being better lookin, bigger, and RWD.

QUOTE(pavitran @ Jan 20 2019, 07:19 AM)
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Below are some video's you might wanna watch to get some better ideas of Hybrids.
My TLDR to you is Hybrids cost more to maintain over time (within warranty period is relatively cheap), has terrible resale value, Honda's system is inferior to Toyota's system, and Hybrids system use high voltage batteries (144 to 330v) but usually have AC converters so it's operating voltage is around 600v or higher. Because of the high voltage don't be shocked that first responders won't try to help you in a bad accident cause they want to avoid getting electrocuted to death, wait until Bomba or specialist arrive. Secondly due to high voltage specialty equipment and knowledge is required to work on these cars so major issues still need to go back to 3S or authorized workshops which will of course slaughter you.

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A better solution is either going turbo, diesel or Skyactiv.
Mazda's Skyactiv technology is non-turbo petrol technology taken to it's current limits, it will give near Hybrid-like fuel consumption.
Skyactiv is a propriety Mazda technology but it still falls on current car engine technology principals so when the car is old these technologies will have passed patent period and become more widely used when anyone can use them (I'm sure Mazda's competitors already reversed engineered the technology), it's a safe bet and parts isn't an issue.

Diesel is a fuel saver but in our market most diesel vehicles for non-commercial use are pickups or suv's.

Turbo technology like VW's Polo, Vento, Jetta, etc. are good examples of modern turbo which is tuned for fuel efficiency more than power delivery.

QUOTE(prakash06 @ Jan 20 2019, 02:32 PM)
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45-55k you're mostly stuck with either Axia, Bezza, Myvi, Saga, Persona.....and that's it for new cars.
Even Korean brands don't cater to this market anymore, the cheapest i10 is at the same price range of a highspec Myvi, however gives much more value and spec.
If you're willing to consider pre-regs then there are alternatives like VW Polo, VW Vento, Nissan Almera, etc.




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post Jan 22 2019, 06:01 AM

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1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 20-30k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Both
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Manual
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : Any
8. Remarks : I'm total car newbie, i'm just eyeing getting a new axia base model is fine by me. But somehow i see just by topping up around 5-6k from axia base model i can get Iriz second hand with around 25-30K mileage and its a auto transmission . Axia have a way better fuel consumption but iriz safety feature kinda won me over? Which is better? why does iriz cost so cheap compare to myvi second hand btw.

Thank you in advance biggrin.gif

grim.fandango
post Jan 22 2019, 12:34 PM

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1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 30k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Automatic
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : Sedan
8. Remarks :

I'm currently considering the following:

a) 2013-2014 Preve Premium
b) 2012 Inspira
c) 2007-2008 Honda Accord 2.4
c) 2007-2008 Honda Accord 3.0
d) 2012 Kia Forte 2.0


I don't really care about FC. I do care about the ownership cost per month. Which of the model would be more cost effective if I'm looking to drive the car for the next 4-5 years?

I'm open for other suggestion but I'd like a little umph in the driving experience, so no Myvi.
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post Jan 22 2019, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(McDBigMaC @ Jan 22 2019, 06:01 AM)
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Iriz is cheaper because it has abysmal fuel efficiency, snail speed gearbox and parts lockdown (you can only get it from proton so if they stop producing them tomorrow the only other choice is OEM's that make the parts for proton to put their sticker which then means consumers like us need to pay much higher prices for them, buying from OEM's are cheaper however if you're thinking with your pocket then getting a Korean or Japanese would mean better and cheaper parts in the long run).

Do look around for i10's they're much better overall and quite ugly so should be quite cheap as a used car.

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I think Inspira ticks the box for your needs.
Make sure you find the highest spec possible.
You maybe able to get younger Preve's but like the Iriz you're locked when it comes to parts.
Inspira is basically a rebadged Lancer which is a global car so stockist can get cheap parts from anywhere in the world.
Accord's are getting kinda old so upkeep is going to get higher or you'll need to do a major refit for some parts then it'll be quite cheap to maintain.



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post Jan 22 2019, 11:51 PM

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Hi, a few words of appreciation...

I have been following this thread with great diligence and is always appreciative of Zenix taking the time and effort to not only provide reasonable suggestion, he/she even took it one step further to link it to mudah.my...respect to you, Sir / Mdm!!!

Anyway, I believe i have asked a few piece of information from you in the past, so here I am again, surveying before i depart with my herd earn money...
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Hi Sifu, i have the following dilemma...

1. Brand: Merc S280
2. Budget:35k cash ( Plan to only use RM5k as downpayment only) (Looking at Year 2003-2005 model)
3. New/Used/Unreg.: Used
4. Specs: Not applicable
5. Remarks:

I have my eyes on the following:

1) Merc S280, Year 2003 - Year 2005.
2) Market price is around 20-26k.
3) My financing strategy is to pay RM5k as downpayment and then loan the rest of the balance.
4) I will have around 25-30k to spare as repair/maintenance/refurbishement cost.
5) Rationale for choosing this model is because of its comfort, fancy electronics, PERFORMANCE and safety. Planning to use it for around 3-4 years before selling it off again. (Main reason is going for the performance, so planning to 'trash' it and make the money worthwhile tongue.gif )

so, Sifus, would this model, S280, be a good purchase? Are my rationale logical/resaonable enough?..or its just plain stupid and i;m bringing upon myself a financial disaster?

Just be blunt with me, sifus...because your advice and experience would save me from financial mishaps.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2019, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Jan 23 2019, 12:01 AM)
Hi Sifu, i have the following dilemma...

1. Brand: Merc S280
2. Budget:35k cash ( Plan to only use RM5k as downpayment only) (Looking at Year 2003-2005 model)
3. New/Used/Unreg.: Used
4. Specs: Not applicable
5. Remarks:

I have my eyes on the following:

1) Merc S280, Year 2003 - Year 2005.
2) Market price is around 20-26k.
3) My financing strategy is to pay RM5k as downpayment and then loan the rest of the balance.
4) I will have around 25-30k to spare as repair/maintenance/refurbishement cost.
5) Rationale for choosing this model is because of its comfort, fancy electronics, PERFORMANCE and safety. Planning to use it for around 3-4 years before selling it off again. (Main reason is going for the performance, so planning to 'trash' it and make the money worthwhile tongue.gif )

so, Sifus, would this model, S280, be a good purchase? Are my rationale logical/resaonable enough?..or its just plain stupid and i;m bringing upon myself a financial disaster?

Just be blunt with me, sifus...because your advice and experience would save me from financial mishaps.. tongue.gif
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I've never own a Benzo... just a bimmah. But your strategy seems like a fast way to burn off excess money laugh.gif
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post Jan 23 2019, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ Jan 23 2019, 08:18 AM)
I've never own a Benzo... just a bimmah. But your strategy seems like a fast way to burn off excess money laugh.gif
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doh.gif sad.gif sad.gif

gosh....i guess its a no-go?

as in, its an extremely bad idea to do what i have in mind? hmm.gif

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post Jan 23 2019, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(fastreader @ Jan 23 2019, 08:53 AM)
doh.gif  sad.gif  sad.gif

gosh....i guess its a no-go?

as in, its an extremely bad idea to do what i have in mind?  hmm.gif
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Depends, if you don't mind the cost & want the experience..it's not wrong. My UDM was a decision by heart, pain by wallet. Haha

If you have done all the research on cost of repairs n parts,and find it acceptable, by all means do it...you can even post updates on ur experience for others to take the dive.

Unrelated, my neighbor has a S55..hardly driven, and never driven hard..very gangsta looking. Especially when the suspension collapse. But he has 3 cars to drive.
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post Jan 23 2019, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Chrix @ Jan 23 2019, 10:25 AM)
Depends, if you don't mind the cost & want the experience..it's not wrong. My UDM was a decision by heart, pain by wallet. Haha

If you have done all the research on cost of repairs n parts,and find it acceptable, by all means do it...you can even post updates on ur experience for others to take the dive.

Unrelated, my neighbor has a S55..hardly driven, and never driven hard..very gangsta looking. Especially when the suspension collapse. But he has 3 cars to drive.
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Ditto.

I did the leap of faith once when I'm single. Never regret it. All my driving experiences today (among similarly priced car) are pale compared to my time with her.

In my case, bought it with cash for RM25k and spent another RM15k throughout 6 years period.
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Jan 23 2019, 10:58 AM)

In my case, bought it with cash for RM25k and spent another RM15k throughout 6 years period.
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40k for 6 years.....I would say a damn good deal you had with some good luck thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(fastreader @ Jan 22 2019, 11:51 PM)
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u again? shakehead.gif tongue.gif

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Purchasing bit: You're not going to get a regular car loan seeing the car is so old so you either need to get a personal loan or (if your CC got enough credit) cashout then convert it to monthly repayments, else 20k is going to seem like 40k at the end of it if you're just going to pay upfront 5k.

Fancy electronics: Word of advice, it is old so most of the fancy stuff might not be working. If you don't want to burn your pocket too much just leave it be unless those things fall into the category of "if i dun fix it the car kenot drive" like in some conti models if the TPM (tire pressure monitor) indicates the tire pressure is low or the sensor kaput then you'll keep getting error notifications.

anyway here is some poison....



QUOTE(cracksys @ Jan 23 2019, 10:58 AM)
Ditto.

I did the leap of faith once when I'm single. Never regret it. All my driving experiences today (among similarly priced car) are pale compared to my time with her.

In my case, bought it with cash for RM25k and spent another RM15k throughout 6 years period.
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