Guys, just a word of advice.

As much as you feel the car is planted on the road, this is not the car to be hitting very high speeds with. Even my previous 2003 Vios felt planted on the road at high speeds. But the moment you hit some crosswind, thats when you realise your car isn't planted at all. Being planted on a straight road should not be used as an excuse to speed. The Civic is a somewhat light car (the Civic 1.8S is 20kg lighter than the Altis 1.8).

The Civic chassis & suspension system is quite well designed which tends to give you the wrong impression that you are very stable (like a conti). I realised this on my first outstation drive last Thurs. But be assured the Civic is no continental car. There's a difference driving in a BMW at 150kmph vs the Civic at that same speed. The problem comes during evasive manoeuvres at higher speeds. No stability control system will be able to help you then.

Nowadays most accidents on the road are caused by the carelessness of other drivers not ours. The faster you travel, the less time you have in avoidance and control recovery.

Our Civic earned very good crash ratings by the IIHS:
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v...door-sedan/2016

But take a look at the crash pics. That was a result of hitting a barrier at only 64kmph. Imagine what would happen if you hit it at 110kmph or higher. Same with most cars I guess.

Just keep this in mind when you are tempted to go fast especially with your family with you.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v...es-4-door-sedan 3-series scores worse than Civic. Although I agree that generally cars are not meant to take head on collisions at 110km/h and above, but it's unfair to say continentals would survive a crash better or control better than Japanese makes.

Yes cyber has a good point. Contis were designed with sustained high speed driving in mind (autobahn) while most Jap cars are not (most).

The merc I have at home never feels unsettled when hitting undulations at 160km/h but the civic feels like it "skips" when going thru the same surface at less speed.

Not saying u can't floor it during straights

drive safe everyone

So are you guys pumping Ron95 for your civic?

yup thats right

ron95. the previous vid with the honda engineer has mentioned that a higher ron will not give you additional horses
US market runs well even with ron80+

Need to correct your fact a bit. US fuel index is using AKI, which is not the same as RON rating. Their regular fuel is AKI87, which is RON92 on our shores. Their Premium fuel is AKI 92, which is RON97 on ours. You also need to take into account that most of their fuel is "Ultra Low Sulpher" which is similar to EURO5 in Europe.

But technically yes, minimum is RON92, or RON95 since that's the lowest grade oil.

you are right. US is using AKI instead of RON which shows lesser value. forgotten about their index

Typically contis are heavier, more powerful engines and longer gear ratios vs Japanese cars. But I think lines are being blurred and contis are shedding weight (W205 Merc 2.0 turbo weight is similar to the 1.5T civic) with new tech and materials. Japs have gone turbo charging and rear multilink suspensions and particularly for this Civic low center of gravity and great aerodynamics for FC.

In the limits of evasive maneuvers VSC/ESC, ABS and EBD play the biggest roles. Without these stability systems a FWD is actually more forgiving to handle vs a RWD when the car breaks loose. Tyres also play a big part in safety for high speeds and the FC is shod with a decent spec conti MC5.

I think HM electronically limited the FC here to 200kmh for durability reasons. Perhaps prevention of CVT heat build up in our climate? Based on technical videos the car does not come with dedicated oil coolers.

This post has been edited by GeekinE90: Jul 9 2016, 11:09 PM

is there supposed to be some sort of clicking sound coming from the driver's right side near the push start button right after starting the car and driving a little bit?

just some question to civic owner, when u travel at 110km/h the rpm which is around 2k, the moment u lift off ur foot from the accelerator, did the RPM drop to idle speed which is 1k rpm or it stayed at 2k rpm?

You missed my point.

I said that having a feeling of being planted while driving on a straight road should not automatically be equated to being stable. Most cars would be planted somewhat on a straight road. The problem occurs during emergency evasive manoeuvring at higher speeds which is where conti's like BMW, Audi, etc will have that added bit of stability.

Try taking corners in a F10 at 150kmph vs a Civic at that same speed. You will notice the difference. Of course there are many factors that come into play with the type of tyres used amongst the most influential factors. Stability control systems have their limits and at very high speeds, it's generally useless if ure out of control.

Also u need to understand crash ratings. The comparison only works when all cars are impacted at around 64kmph. For example, a small compact car getting a 5 star frontal crash rating doesn't equate to a BMW/Merc getting the same rating. There is a clause in the crash tests which state that frontal crash test ratings should be compared only among vehicles of similar weight.

RPM at 110kmph is 1,800.

How is it possible for the RPM to drop to idle speed when you are in gear and the car is travelling at 110kmph even if you lift your foot off the gas?

Ive experienced my first bug.

This screen keeps popping up and beeping every few secs. Ive tried switching off the car but doesn't help. Its sometimes there and sometimes not. Started 3 days ago.

Anybody experiencing the same?


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try restart the HU?

Not possible when the gear still engage with engine, possible if turn to free gear

The BMW F10 is more balanced through high speed corners. When accelerating out of corners the rear squats in and rockets the car put without the understeer mainly from the RWD and electronic traction control applying quick independent wheel braking to maintain geometry when rocketing out. That's why it feels good. But I find the F10 lacking in quick directional changes and the car and bulk wallows too much. I have driven the F10 M5 around Sepang and it was a brutal beast but so outclassed by the E90 M3 which just totally carved out tthe track with precision unlike the M5 which behaves more like a heavy weight boxer. The M3 is much more like the agile ninja warrior on the track and so much more enjoyable to drive when pushed hard.

This post has been edited by GeekinE90: Jul 10 2016, 07:13 AM

Overall, it is still a continental cars. In terms of handling, performance and safety, those BMW, Mercedes or Audi got certain level of reliability. Or else why a person paid premium cost for a vehicle that give them satisfaction? An entry level brand new Japanese cars only cost RM60k ++ whereas a brand new Continental cars cost around RM180k ++ for basic spec. For normal driving condition (~110km/h), Japanese cars is sufficient enough to travel from point A to B. Whereas those enthusiast that preferred dynamic driving performance...can upgrade to Continental cars.

This post has been edited by Jeffreynsx: Jul 10 2016, 07:23 AM

What source audio is it set to when it happens?

I think it is not fair comparing FWD with RWD for handling, RWD will have better control as less stress on front tyre when running.

I do hope Honda vehicles equipped with FR instead of FF. This setup not only fun to drive but also great handling. Not understand why Japanese cars maker opt for FF instead of FR setup for specific models.