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post Sep 25 2022, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 25 2022, 02:18 PM)
Plex mainly is a database platform to store all your local film / song and you can multi platform playback at your PC, Mac, Smart TV (So far it is support by all famous branded like Samsung, LG, Panasonic, Sony and etc), TV Box (Android TV, Google TV, Apple TV), Mobile and etc.

The online streaming part is new features from Plex which show mostly B class firm or independance film and also plenty of free live-TV channel.

Not upload but hosting yourself, you can make it public so you can stream back at others places or make it locally only.

Then you will have a very nice interface to browse the content (you can use the default select cover, background or use your own one).

Example of the interface

TV/TV Box Interface / HTPC Interface
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PC Interface (for organize your Film Database)
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wOw, that's impressive... rclxms.gif are all those your collection? great! so do you upload all your digital files (movies) into plex, is that how it works? it uses your hard disk space or plex's cloud space? i wont have the knowledge or gears to do this but this is really amazing... thanks bro for sharing! thumbup.gif
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post Sep 25 2022, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(fadthil @ Sep 25 2022, 10:08 PM)
wOw, that's impressive...  rclxms.gif are all those your collection? great! so do you upload all your digital files (movies) into plex, is that how it works? it uses your hard disk space or plex's cloud space? i wont have the knowledge or gears to do this but this is really amazing... thanks bro for sharing!  thumbup.gif
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I use my own HDD space, Plex did not host anything and don't have it own cloud service, I think that is the reason Plex is legal and never have any legal issue.
But Plex do support Cloud Sync to cloud storage providers such as Box, DropBox and Google.

I only put it locally, I not even share out as public. No one can access my collection except me. Haha!

Some information sharing:
  • Plex is quite heavy, it only work nice in Nvidia Shield TV Pro. All format is supported include Dolby TrueHD and no transcode is required.
  • It work ok at Apple TV 4K Box and no sound issue as Apple auto transcode all audio to Multi channel PCM, due to this they is no Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD as Apple not support it.
  • It work ok with Chromecast with Google TV but not support Dolby TrueHD due to the box limitation, so you need to transcode it. You need to change the setting at settings and it is kind of troublesome.
  • It work very shit in TV platform, I had try at Samsung, LG and Panasonic (not android TV) and all running freaking slow for this new interface and mostly cannot play actual Blu-ray / 4K Blu-ray format but only stream quality format.

If you only use for PC and then should be no issue as I even load my main database server at my old laptop - Intel® Core i7-6700HQ which is already 6 years ago and run fine, off course this laptop is kind of old and the GPU Nvidia GTX 970m is not really capable to run 4K UHD films which will skip frames with 100% CPU load. 😅 For newer PC or any GPU with RTX 20xx shouldn't be any issue playback 4K UHD films.



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post Sep 25 2022, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 25 2022, 10:19 PM)
I use my own HDD space, Plex did not host anything and don't have it own cloud service, I think that is the reason Plex is legal and never have any legal issue.
But Plex do support Cloud Sync to cloud storage providers such as Box, DropBox and Google.

I only put it locally, I not even share out as public. No one can access my collection except me. Haha!

Some information sharing:

  • Plex is quite heavy, it only work nice in Nvidia Shield TV Pro. All format is supported include Dolby TrueHD and no transcode is required.
  • It work ok at Apple TV 4K Box and no sound issue as Apple auto transcode all audio to Multi channel PCM, due to this they is no Dolby Atmos in Dolby TrueHD as Apple not support it.
  • It work ok with Chromecast with Google TV but not support Dolby TrueHD due to the box limitation, so you need to transcode it. You need to change the setting at settings and it is kind of troublesome.
  • It work very shit in TV platform, I had try at Samsung, LG and Panasonic (not android TV) and all running freaking slow for this new interface and mostly cannot play actual Blu-ray / 4K Blu-ray format but only stream quality format.

If you only use for PC and then should be no issue as I even load my main database server at my old laptop - Intel® Core i7-6700HQ which is already 6 years ago and run fine, off course this laptop is kind of old and the GPU Nvidia GTX 970m is not really capable to run 4K UHD films which will skip frames with 100% CPU load. 😅 For newer PC or any GPU with RTX 20xx shouldn't be any issue playback 4K UHD films.
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interesting, btw can i ask, how many shows (or titles) have you uploaded onto your PLEX platform, that include series if any too...? hmm.gif
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post Sep 26 2022, 02:19 AM

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QUOTE(fadthil @ Sep 25 2022, 11:47 PM)
interesting, btw can i ask, how many shows (or titles) have you uploaded onto your PLEX platform, that include series if any too...?  hmm.gif
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Not sure, didn't check. Haha!

The Plex is just a platform act as film database. They is no upload. It will retrieve the film from your local store or cloud.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 26 2022, 02:19 AM)
Not sure, didn't check. Haha!

The Plex is just a platform act as film database. They is no upload. It will retrieve the film from your local store or cloud.
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ok i get it... it acts as a software to organise and play your file contents from your remote computer or hard disk, right? sorry, i am new to this... usually will just play my content direct from player or watch digitally via streaming services
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QUOTE(fadthil @ Sep 26 2022, 06:55 PM)
ok i get it... it acts as a software to organise and play your file contents from your remote computer or hard disk, right? sorry, i am new to this... usually will just play my content direct from player or watch digitally via streaming services
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Correct, using it is for better organize and easier for navigation at TV like you using Netflix.

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Speaking of Plex, it's actually quite limited in functionality. Simple to use sure, but ultimately not feature rich enough.

Personally I'm using Media Hoarder, a new app for Windows (only at the moment). Way more powerful and ability to use your own custom player (instead of being forced to use ExoPlayer like Plex).



https://media.hoarder.software/
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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 26 2022, 07:28 PM)
Speaking of Plex, it's actually quite limited in functionality. Simple to use sure, but ultimately not feature rich enough.

Personally I'm using Media Hoarder, a new app for Windows (only at the moment). Way more powerful and ability to use your own custom player (instead of being forced to use ExoPlayer like Plex).



https://media.hoarder.software/
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Plex beside cannot use 3rd party player, I don't see Media Hoarder which part is better. Too basic interface where cannot even display as thumbnail view. Seems cannot edit cover, background, content information as well.
Also no support of any TV apps, TV Box apps.

It is way too basic to be honest. Even the website is way too blank and waste my time watching the so call more features in details YouTube where keep showing the sorting/filter feature only which all others player is capable as well.
This player is far away than features. It need more time to polish and put more effort in the development.

Even Emby or Jellyfin is far better than this.
As for Apple wise, they is another great video player - Infuse.

Emby - https://emby.media/
Jellyfin - https://jellyfin.org/
Infuse - https://firecore.com/infuse
Plex - https://www.plex.tv/

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 26 2022, 09:06 PM)
Plex beside cannot use 3rd party player, I don't see Media Hoarder which part is better. Too basic interface where cannot even display as thumbnail view. Seems cannot edit cover, background, content information as well.
Also no support of any TV apps, TV Box apps.

It is way too basic to be honest. Even the website is way too blank and waste my time watching the so call more features in details YouTube where keep showing the sorting/filter feature only which all others player is capable as well.
This player is far away than features. It need more time to polish and put more effort in the development.

Even Emby or Jellyfin is far better than this.
As for Apple wise, they is another great video player - Infuse.

Emby - https://emby.media/
Jellyfin - https://jellyfin.org/
Infuse - https://firecore.com/infuse
Plex - https://www.plex.tv/
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All info of media can be customized just like Plex.

We are still developing the app. We just launched it... yesterday lol. It's open source btw, you're free to mod it however you like.

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Sep 26 2022, 09:47 PM)
All info of media can be customized just like Plex.

We are still developing the app. We just launched it... yesterday lol. It's open source btw, you're free to mod it however you like.
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So this is your develop apps. lol

I will try out when it is getting better with basic feature, at least can show thumbnail view and support TV apps, at least have Google TV apps or Apple 4K TV apps.

All the best and hope to see better version in future.

I didn't touch programming too long, can't mod anymore. 😅

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Sep 26 2022, 09:55 PM)
So this is your develop apps. lol

I will try out when it is getting better with basic feature, at least can show thumbnail view and support TV apps, at least have Google TV apps or Apple 4K TV apps.

All the best and hope to see better version in future.

I didn't touch programming too long, can't mod anymore. 😅
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It's not mine exactly. It's a friend's one, I'm just helping out.

Everything you mentioned is already in development (or in final testing phase).
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so anybody here planning to buy any physical media (4Ks, blu-rays, DVDs) during Black Friday later this month? Or you guys already stop buying since economy is bad and Ringgit very weak now... hmm.gif for me I'm torn... Ringgit very weak, financial this year also not so good but if my favourite titles dropped prices like crazy and offer really good deal, then I'll be cursing later if I skip and not buying sweat.gif because I have not been buying any physical medias during non-Black Friday season ever since 4-5 years ago! blush.gif

On the other hand, I hope the titles I wanted won't be on sale or won't be too cheap so I won't feel too bad afterwards whistling.gif
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Black Friday 2022 was the first time there were things worth getting from Amazon compared to the past few years, where the discounts were anemic.

Not sure about this year though, especially once the LVG tax takes effect from 1 April.

Anyone have any ideas about the LVG tax?

Does this mean no matter what we do also kena tax, since currently any orders > $150 kena tax.
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Hi Everyone!! I'm new to movie collection, I have some enquiries here

To my understanding, 4k UHD is region free, and all I need is a UHD player.

1. Can anyone recommend me UHD player?

2. Does PS5 have UHD player?

3. from amazon, most of the deal I found is (4k Ultra HD + Blu-Ray + Digital). As for the "digital" part, I watched youtube video that the digital movie code can only be use in certain country, does it mean in Malaysia, I can't redeem the code? Or can I vpn to that country to redeem? lol
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QUOTE(ayeayecaptain @ Feb 27 2023, 10:57 AM)
Hi Everyone!! I'm new to movie collection, I have some enquiries here

To my understanding, 4k UHD is region free, and all I need is a UHD player.

1. Can anyone recommend me UHD player?

2. Does PS5 have UHD player?

3. from amazon, most of the deal I found is (4k Ultra HD + Blu-Ray + Digital). As for the "digital" part, I watched youtube video that the digital movie code can only be use in certain country, does it mean in Malaysia, I can't redeem the code? Or can I vpn to that country to redeem? lol
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I have a 4K compatible BD-ROM drive in my PC, PS5, Xbox Series X, and Panasonic UB820.

From my tests, the Panasonic UB820 performed the best in terms of color accuracy and HDR and Dolby Vision.

Note that PC and PS5 both do NOT support Dolby Vision, although you need not consider this if you're using a Samsung TV.

PS5 is the second best option for media playback especially now that it has been patched to support Dolby Atmos audio output.

The Digital Codes do not work in Malaysia unless you use a VPN service to connect to North America.
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QUOTE(munchoong @ Apr 24 2024, 01:20 PM)
I have a 4K compatible BD-ROM drive in my PC, PS5, Xbox Series X, and Panasonic UB820.

From my tests, the Panasonic UB820 performed the best in terms of color accuracy and HDR and Dolby Vision.

Note that PC and PS5 both do NOT support Dolby Vision, although you need not consider this if you're using a Samsung TV.

PS5 is the second best option for media playback especially now that it has been patched to support Dolby Atmos audio output.

The Digital Codes do not work in Malaysia unless you use a VPN service to connect to North America.
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From your experience, any big difference between physical vs streaming for visual quality? I know sound wise it makes a big difference.
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QUOTE(Kahlamx @ Apr 24 2024, 02:07 PM)
From your experience, any big difference between physical vs streaming for visual quality? I know sound wise it makes a big difference.
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I have tested the Spider-Man movies on Netflix to compare against the 4K discs, and while I wouldn't say the difference is significant, there is slight reduction in clarity and sharpness in the streaming version.

On the other hand, The Last of Us streaming through HBO was very different when compared to the discs. The 4K disc version had significantly more vibrant colors, sharper details all around, and most significantly zero color banding and black crush.

Generally speaking, I feel there's more difference in visuals between streaming vs disc. I always felt the lossy Dolby Digital Plus compression in streamers is pretty decent, and holds up well against the lossless Dolby Atmos audio I get on disc.
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QUOTE(munchoong @ Apr 25 2024, 09:12 AM)
I have tested the Spider-Man movies on Netflix to compare against the 4K discs, and while I wouldn't say the difference is significant, there is slight reduction in clarity and sharpness in the streaming version.

On the other hand, The Last of Us streaming through HBO was very different when compared to the discs. The 4K disc version had significantly more vibrant colors, sharper details all around, and most significantly zero color banding and black crush.

Generally speaking, I feel there's more difference in visuals between streaming vs disc. I always felt the lossy Dolby Digital Plus compression in streamers is pretty decent, and holds up well against the lossless Dolby Atmos audio I get on disc.
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I see. For the last of us, I assume that you played it with your UB820? Do you by any chance know if Xbox Series X is TV-led or Player-led? Cause I am not sure if I should get the spears and munsil 4K calibration disc if it's player-led.
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Yeah, I played it with my UB820 with dual HDMI output (video to TV, audio to receiver) as my receiver doesn't support Dolby Vision.

Because the Series X only has a single HDMI output, it is connected to my receiver, so I can't get Dolby Vision from it.

The Series X has its own HDR calibration app (similar to the one used in Windows), and to be honest I am not happy with the results compared to PS4 or PS5. Colors never look right. Not sure if this means it is player-led or TV-led though smile.gif

If you want to use a game console as a UHD player, I feel the PS5 offers more accurate colors, but note that it doesn't support Dolby Vision.

In terms of sharpness and color accuracy, my UB820 is still my preferred choice for 4K disc playback. PS5 is a close second, with Series X and PC being far, far behind.

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QUOTE(munchoong @ Apr 26 2024, 10:10 AM)
Yeah, I played it with my UB820 with dual HDMI output (video to TV, audio to receiver) as my receiver doesn't support Dolby Vision.

Because the Series X only has a single HDMI output, it is connected to my receiver, so I can't get Dolby Vision from it.

The Series X has its own HDR calibration app (similar to the one used in Windows), and to be honest I am not happy with the results compared to PS4 or PS5. Colors never look right. Not sure if this means it is player-led or TV-led though smile.gif

If you want to use a game console as a UHD player, I feel the PS5 offers more accurate colors, but note that it doesn't support Dolby Vision.

In terms of sharpness and color accuracy, my UB820 is still my preferred choice for 4K disc playback. PS5 is a close second, with Series X and PC being far, far behind.
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Any other BD player you can recommend? The UB820 is quite pricey and the one selling on shopee/lazada mostly 3rd party sellers.

Yes I am aware of the Series X Game HDR calibration, but then normally that function is calibrated when HGIG is turned on.

As for PS5, it forces HDR mode even on the main menu and internal netflix apps and it doesn't switch mode whenever you view SDR/HDR content on netflix, at least for my LG OLED. Which led me to believe it's slightly flawed to begin with.

Having said that, I am not sure if the bluray player on both uses TV HDR/DV tone mapping or the console itself. Maybe I should just buy a copy of UHD bluray to try first.

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