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 Lag To World Of Warcraft - The "Whys" and "Hows", A topic about the wow latancy

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TristanX
post Jan 15 2007, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(colincsf @ Jan 14 2007, 11:47 PM)
is there a solid proof??? why u say so?
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Try maxing your connection out with a popular torrent while you play WoW. I get disconnects or lag everytime I run BitTorrent with WoW. I start lagging when my download reaches 10kb/sec.
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post Jan 15 2007, 12:18 AM

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I dont think the proof of throttling is true.. i've asked many player from other countries nearby us and they have the same ping like us ranged from 300-600ms ping (australia, singapore, hongkong,indonesia and philipines friends of mine).. of coz all this is b4 the earthquake xD..

about the torrent, i tried downloading my faves anime sometimes when i play wow and it didn't lag except it reaches 100kbps still i can stay at 600-800ms.. also this is all b4 the earthquake xD..

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post Jan 15 2007, 09:03 AM

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Either way, like I posted in some other post, shell out extra bucks for VPN service, it works great for me for a week since the VPN server is locally located and they have a good international linkage from there on. Getting really good response and manageable pings (400~700)
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post Jan 15 2007, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(kenzai82 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:18 AM)
I dont think the proof of throttling is true.. i've asked many player from other countries nearby us and they have the same ping like us ranged from 300-600ms ping (australia, singapore, hongkong,indonesia and philipines friends of mine).. of coz all this is b4 the earthquake xD..

about the torrent, i tried downloading my faves anime sometimes when i play wow and it didn't lag except it reaches 100kbps still i can stay at 600-800ms.. also this is all b4 the earthquake xD..
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Its true.

By the way.. not only TmNet Bandwidth Throttle connections. Bandwidth Throttle is very common in alot of isp nowadays.

Do you think tmnut invented this brilliant technology? omfg. no way. all they did was got some advice from some overseas ISP on how to handle overflowing connections and still provide QoS, hence Bandwidth Throttle.

And heres a link for all the isp who bandwidth throttle. This is to prove that my fact is straight non-bias and true.

http://wiki.filesharingweb.de/index.php/En...throttling_ISPs
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post Jan 15 2007, 10:23 AM

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If I still suffering poor WoW exp after the submarine cables are officially annouced fixed, I'm gonna jump over to other ISP.

Seems Jaring is trying to grab off some of the online customers from TMNut.

No point argue with TMNut, there are more options out there now. Spend your anger and efforts to look up other ISPs.

I'm just giving them few more weeks over the excuse on the broken cables, though I still about 6 months more to finish up the contract.
But since they can't provide me "acceptable" performance over online gaming exp, they practically breached their contract already.
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post Jan 15 2007, 11:03 AM

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I talked to some of my buddies at TMNET. They say we will get what we have had before the earthquake near the end of the month... might be 20th.

If it is cap for now, i understand since the connection is not 100% restored yet. But let's wait and see till the end of the month.
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post Jan 15 2007, 11:13 AM

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GUys i was having really good connection like 300-600 latency 3 days while i was really damnn happy.
Not until from saturday night onwards till now,
I have a ping of 3k above zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Even i might have it reducve at 600-1k at midnight but it lags alot!!!
Wonder any1 experience it like me??
I stay in Ampang and my ip start with 60.50.xxxxxx
Cause i thnk ampang can get any other ip than that
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post Jan 15 2007, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(nFiniteFX @ Jan 15 2007, 09:03 AM)
Either way, like I posted in some other post, shell out extra bucks for VPN service, it works great for me for a week since the VPN server is locally located and they have a good international linkage from there on. Getting really good response and manageable pings (400~700)
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We shouldnt even need a VPN server in the first place. It's the service the the isp is providing that should be genuine.
I'll be waiting till the announced date by tmnet about the restoration thingy then I'll start judging. Hoho

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post Jan 15 2007, 11:49 AM

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anyone know how speeds are in cybercafes? just as bad as everywhere else or slightly better? sorry if this question is out of topic
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QUOTE(arisomar @ Jan 14 2007, 09:34 PM)
That's Why i say enforce, yes there are geniune users, if they notice a trend like 24/7 p2p usage, then investigate.  I pay to play, not pay for others to abuse the system!

Rubbish!

If you can't provide a service, move on and let somebody else.
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Agreed, 24/7 non-stop downloading is pretty inconsiderate. Why is it so hard to download only when you are in front of the computer or do that past midnight? Thats what I basically does anyway. Thats right they paid money to download but its just not right to do that continuously 24/7.
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post Jan 15 2007, 01:55 PM

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One word. Kiasu.

You have been to a hotel buffet, right?

QUOTE(lilzany @ Jan 15 2007, 11:53 AM)
Agreed, 24/7 non-stop downloading is pretty inconsiderate. Why is it so hard to download only when you are in front of the computer or do that past midnight? Thats what I basically does anyway. Thats right they paid money to download but its just not right to do that continuously 24/7.
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post Jan 15 2007, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(limsk @ Jan 15 2007, 01:55 PM)
One word. Kiasu.

You have been to a hotel buffet, right?
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Yeh i have been, but if u eat all u can just for the sake of it, it still means ur a greedy fat monkey lol. Like ppl who D/L 24/7 are greedy and inconsiderate.

Its a general human trait, ppl are greedy, its disgusting really. All 24/7 downloaders will just be fire wood in the next life if they go about life in the same manner as their internet usage lol.

Peace out to all the nice ppl, F U to all the greedy monkies tongue.gif
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post Jan 15 2007, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(kenzai82 @ Jan 15 2007, 12:18 AM)
I dont think the proof of throttling is true.. i've asked many player from other countries nearby us and they have the same ping like us ranged from 300-600ms ping (australia, singapore, hongkong,indonesia and philipines friends of mine).. of coz all this is b4 the earthquake xD..

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Most SG/HK guys i know has <400 ms consistently.
I never get anything <600 ever in my 2 years wow life here & I've tried all the ip range.

This shitty latency cause most trouble in competitive pvp... arrgghh how to do well in arena...

Fack tmnut not p2p users.
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post Jan 16 2007, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(EDK @ Jan 15 2007, 09:47 PM)
Most SG/HK guys i know has <400 ms consistently.
I never get anything <600 ever in my 2 years wow life here & I've tried all the ip range.

This shitty latency cause most trouble in competitive pvp... arrgghh how to do well in arena...

Fack tmnut not p2p users.
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Your house copper/fibre optic line affects the your connection as well.

As for me, my ping usually around 200 to 500ms consistencly. 600ms sometimes. Above 700 is very rare unless tmnet having some connection problem
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QUOTE(v i n c @ Jan 16 2007, 01:19 AM)
Your house copper/fibre optic line affects the your connection as well.

As for me, my ping usually around 200 to 500ms consistencly. 600ms sometimes. Above 700 is very rare unless tmnet having some connection problem
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I still cant play bg or raid,
when theres more than 20 ppls on that area ,my latency from 200ms flew up to 2k~6kms.otherwise its around 200~500ms .

I wonder...its just me or ppls who use screamyx also have the same problem?


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post Jan 16 2007, 09:47 AM

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Rest assured its not just you.

QUOTE(eternallove @ Jan 16 2007, 02:58 AM)
I still cant play bg or raid,
when theres more than 20 ppls on that area ,my latency from 200ms flew up to 2k~6kms.otherwise its around 200~500ms .

I wonder...its just me or ppls who use screamyx also have the same problem?
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QUOTE(limsk @ Jan 16 2007, 09:47 AM)
Rest assured its not just you.
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BG has been good the last 2 days, no disconnects so far, except for the weird game quit when entering AV and AB once
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post Jan 16 2007, 11:39 AM

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I won't use analogies here, but it is pointless to resent the regular user on how he uses his bandwidth. Why blame p2pers instead of the provider?
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QUOTE(arisomar @ Jan 15 2007, 02:49 PM)
Yeh i have been, but if u eat all u can just for the sake of it, it still means ur a greedy fat monkey lol. Like ppl who D/L 24/7 are greedy and inconsiderate.

Its a general human trait, ppl are greedy, its disgusting really.  All 24/7 downloaders will just be fire wood in the next life if they go about life in the same manner as their internet usage lol.

Peace out to all the nice ppl, F U to all the greedy monkies tongue.gif
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I made a food analogy in another section. The gist is like this:

The internet is like a buffet table, both with healthy and unhealthy stuff. People will gorge on it if the owner out there keep promoting all-you-can-eat. Yeah, people who just keep eating is kiasu, but after all it's "all-you-can-eat", you're getting what you paid for. What TM is doing is keep saying "come in we've got space" whereas the restaurant inside is already crowded. New customers who came in then complain when they can't find enough seats. Instead of stopping the false advertising, TM is now insisting "all-you-can-eat" but "one-plate-of-food-every-half-hour" (throttling).

Lol...
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And it is the only restaurant in town, other ISPs still pinjam TM's backbone.

If you don't eat you will starve.

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