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Jason
post May 24 2018, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 24 2018, 03:52 PM)
If you see the spec clearly, it didn't save much or pretty non. It selling point is the heating element.

Joven take 30min at 3kw to boil the water to 70°.

Hydro1 take 36min at 1.5kw to boil to 44°c. See the temp different.

I don't see the Hydro1 save in electricity.
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30min at 3kW should be the JH35 model with 35L.

Hydro1 don’t have 30L model so let’s compare the 50L models from both brands.

Joven to 70C @
3kW takes 45mins
1.5kW takes 90 mins

Hydro1 to 44C @ 1.5kW takes 45mins, so it’ll take roughly 1 minute for 1C. To hit 70C I assume it’ll take an additional 26 minutes, so total time will be 71 minutes.

So with my assumption it performs ~26% better than Joven’s.

Please correct if I’m wrong.
Jason
post May 24 2018, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ May 24 2018, 05:31 PM)
Wrong.

It takes more energy and time if want to go higher. It is not a linear relationship.

Energy loss  to surrounding due to temp difference will be more.

The lesser the temp difference between heating element and the water, the lower the heat transfer rate. Hence again, will take more time and energy.

So such calculation cannot be used. Any fluid thermodynamic engineer here that can shed more light ?
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Fair enough. So now who can shed some light.

I’m just a layman. I’m looking at Hydro1 because of its claims of being safer.
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post May 25 2018, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ May 25 2018, 09:25 AM)
Hydro1 have 30L, 50L and 80L. Check at the Specification.

Base on the Eco30 L, 36min - 44°. If reach to 70° will take  - 70/44x36= 57min.

Base on Eco50L, 45min - 44°. If reach to 70° will take - 70/44x45= 71min.

Base on the Joven JH35L, 60min - 70°.

Base on the Joven JH50L, 90min - 70°.
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So, I think Hydro1 is “better” since it’s a 1.5kW heating element?
Jason
post Jul 12 2018, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(mentalmuz @ Jul 12 2018, 11:17 AM)
If I just need hot water for shower in 1 bathroom, does it still make sense to go for storage water heater? Currently I'm using Joven instant water heater. I'm quite satisfied with the temperature as I don't really need very hot water for shower but I want to change to big rain shower for personal enjoyment. So far when I read in this thread seems like instant water heater is not recommended to be use big rain shower? or do you guys know any instant water heater that I can use with big shower head maybe like below type?
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Big rain shower with instant hot water, you will face 2 possible problems:
1.Water pressure not strong enough, so the flow of the rain shower will be slow.
2.Water pressure strong (maybe you have household water pump), but the instant hot water can't heat up the large volume of water.



 

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