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yok70
post Jul 12 2016, 02:35 AM

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oil bull or bear? bear or bull? ...... rclxub.gif

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post Jul 12 2016, 04:08 PM

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still fighting 45.... laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2016, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 12 2016, 05:42 PM)
like we have seen many times, even a small piece of positive news will send the oil bulls rallying!

Oil prices rise on Iraq loading worries; bearish investors cap gains

will see later if the usual pattern emerges - asian/european traders will push it up high, then drop like hell just before nymex opens. biggrin.gif
but really, the fall has been too sharp, some recovery is to be expected...
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46.xx at the moment.... laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2016, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 12 2016, 07:34 PM)
i will be at the keyboard at 9.30pm. biggrin.gif

dow futures now +7x; if it goes lower, wti will likely dive.

i will go dwti again if it stays up high. tongue.gif

there is no big reason for wti to rally except for the iraq thingy which is supposedly resolved now.

and the usual "weak $"...

but must not forget the fabulous api insider info syndrome later in the session.

fun night ahead. laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2016, 11:20 PM

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all out, 27.40.
too risky, i'm out for now.
index all time high, anytime can face correction. sweat.gif

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post Jul 13 2016, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jul 13 2016, 12:30 AM)
me too!
yesterday i was talking about diving towards 44 then 42! now its shooting sharply up and up! incredicle! who r these people buying? i dont seem to find any 'good' news for crude.
What a game! i stay aside. rclxub.gif
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now u know. laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 01:43 AM)
40 more mins.

may have to surrender... sad.gif
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i sold too early....5% less.... doh.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 02:35 AM)
no la... the volatility gets to you - cold feet, very normal. biggrin.gif
looking at the gyrations in the last few minutes, i will hold until tmrw.

maybe api will report +3.3mil instead of experts estimate of -3.3mil.

then maybe eia will report -1mil. tongue.gif

really, hard to think it will rally another 3% after 5% today.
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VIX is low, index is high, broad market is hard to rise strong in coming days.
so ya, bet on bear is relatively safer in a way.
good luck to you! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 06:58 PM)
since iea made a statement before eia data is released, likely eia will report stock buildup too, like api.

wti retreat to <45?

ok, dow/s&p can continue to rally! biggrin.gif
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/oil-prices-...ude-stocks.html
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commodity seems broadly rebound. I see copper, silver, gold, oil....all rebound.....weak dollar cause all this? maybe world consumption rebound as well....broad world economy recovery begins this 2H16 for real?..... hmm.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 09:48 PM)
if u wait, sell now...27.00 only. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 10:50 PM)
US crude stockpiles fall less than expected at 2.5 million barrels: EIA
4 out of 5 times, eia data is opposite to api. laugh.gif

so, wti should be going back to 44.xx.

hazardous times... very easily burned by uwti/dwti. sweat.gif
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scary volatility.
if 44.80 can't hold, may look at 43.40.... sweat.gif
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post Jul 14 2016, 12:43 AM

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already testing 44.80 immediate support tonight.....looks like high chance to dive towards 43.40 in coming days....
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post Jul 14 2016, 12:43 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2016, 11:49 PM)
oh, yes...

looking for a chance to dive back in. tongue.gif
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now, lucky i sold yesterday. if hold until now, die die already. laugh.gif
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post Jul 14 2016, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 14 2016, 02:29 AM)
Got spammed....  bruce.gif

Can we short sell this business?    devil.gif
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i reported it. devil.gif

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post Jul 14 2016, 04:40 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 14 2016, 04:01 AM)
I see another bounce off the 44.5x level here.. perhaps double bottom??  hmm.gif
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OPEC prefers higher oil price.... hmm.gif
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post Jul 14 2016, 05:52 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 14 2016, 04:56 AM)
Yeah.. of course they do but I don't think they went in buy back their oil like that just to support the market from collapsing below that number.

All they need to do is just to say the words 'cut production', and this Oil market will rally to the moon.  biggrin.gif

Perhaps do not even need to act on it.. just say 'maybe we're thinking about cutting back xx', the bulls will jump back in as if it will definitely happen.

You know why? It is just like how in early part of this year, when OPEC and Russians were planning to talk about "freezing" production at the current level (not even cut.. just maintain only) but the talks collapsed with no agreement. Oil rallied from the lows of $26 till this level with no confirmation on what they actually did or did not do.

So far, in reality NONE of them has any production cut at all... how the heck did the market even justify the price at this level, right?  All talk only, but the bulls got very excited already.     biggrin.gif
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Haha! Very true. Bulls just cannot take it to see oil too low.
In fact, for any business, if cost higher than market price, the business will die naturally.
On oil, it's tricky since it's actually a "must-have" business that the world needs it everyday. Now strangely, those business is making loss, and demand is below supply. In theory, this cannot last for long. Either they are able to bring cost down tremendously so that back to profit making, or the business will still die essentially (but, they can't! tricky!)
Therefore, "invisible force" will continue pushing bulls ahead no matter how. laugh.gif

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post Jul 14 2016, 12:16 PM

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battle of 45 continues.... biggrin.gif
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still fighting on defending the 45 line.... laugh.gif
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post Jul 16 2016, 02:15 AM

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bulls are trying to move up from 45 to 46 tonight....
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post Jul 16 2016, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 16 2016, 02:23 AM)
Also on Friday, data from oilfield services firm Baker Hughes showed U.S. drillers added oil rigs for a sixth week in the last seven. The number of oil rigs operating in U.S. fields rose by 6 to 357, compared to 638 at this time last year.
6 more rigs = not much, can rally! biggrin.gif

well, if 6/7 weeks had rig count rise, a matter of time the stocks will incr...
no fish today...

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Have a good weekends to you too. laugh.gif

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