amazon and alphabet above 1000...
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Jul 25 2017, 03:32 AM
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unstoppable bull marching towards 2500....
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Jul 26 2017, 07:53 AM
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Jul 27 2017, 10:05 PM
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Jul 27 2017, 10:05 PM
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yahoo finance finally works again...
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Jul 28 2017, 01:16 AM
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sharp fall, especially nasdaq....correction coming?
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Aug 1 2017, 04:03 AM
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there you go, 50 broke out.
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Aug 5 2017, 12:08 AM
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How to evaluate Tesla's valuation? Anyone?
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Aug 5 2017, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 5 2017, 01:03 AM) If compare to car manufacturer (GM, Toyota, Mazda)... it is way overvalue. I am considering the fundamental, not technical.If compare to a tech company.. it is more like it. like AMZN, NFLX, etc.. TSLA is definitely not a value stock by any means. Not making a single dime of profits but more losses every year but speculation is on its growth. Too rich for me..to buy and hold But, can trade.. if you're on the correct track. since it's still a loss making company, it's hard to valuate, and hard to "predict" its profit margin since there isn't any profit yet. I can see its technology and innovation are shining, much better than Toyota or GM. In the (near) future, technology should lead the world because of continuing advancing the electrical car and self-driving category. The world market can be huge if one could dominate the majority of the market, especially one with such small portion as Tesla is today. Another point is Tesla's roof tiles sola technology, which is also a non-existence for consumer market (probably 0.000001%). And we know that as long as the price becomes right, this market is going to be huge. Once again, profit margin concern. We certainly not happy with higher revenues = higher loss kind of business model. Just wondering, how do you define "rich" for tesla? what are your parameters? Thanks! This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 5 2017, 02:22 AM |
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Aug 8 2017, 02:32 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 5 2017, 05:09 AM) It's the same fundamentals parameters that you've stated - loss making, still negative PE.. thanks for sharing! nothing here yet but huge operating expenses but seems like majority of investors are betting on its technology that it may have a bigger market share than other EV cars in future. Some may feel TSLA maybe like the AAPL (cars instead of mobile phones) but I don't think so. There are others who are catching up now..Nissan, Toyota, GM (already had the consumer price version of Volt years ago), Mazda... granted, none of them are as cool as TSLA. So, imo, TSLA buyer could be the hippie type for now as long it continue to improve on its technology. Another thing is its CEO also a brand name that investors are willing to pay up because of him (just like late S.Jobs) As for the rest of the world market, China could be a good potential there for TSLA as long they can fight off the copycats and other local sharks (usually supported by the so called China version of GLCs). At current price.. I'm staying away (not for BUY and HOLD for investment - but ok to just trade 'em - see their options price, good premiums). I think fair price for TSLA should be in mid 100s. Again, just my assessment. Others may have diff views. |
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Aug 8 2017, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Aug 5 2017, 07:28 AM) Understand many funds bought tsla because they were convinced by Elon musk salesmanship and made $ millions along the way. thanks for sharing! Tsla price correction will comes when results is below expectations. To keep price high and attract more buying, expect Elon musk to cook up more and bigger ideas. |
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Aug 9 2017, 09:35 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Aug 9 2017, 11:49 AM) Elon Musk is also celebrity (appeared on TV shows like Big Bang Theory).. so his name somehow adds a few billions to the market cap of TSLA. ya, people are so keen to meet another Jobs in this world, and he is one of the best candidates i guess. He's charming, good humor, and successful anyways. Investors simply invest because of him too.. not necessarily they care about the fundamentals. same here, i don't think he's the same league as Jobs....certainly behind Jobs, for my opinion. also one thing that worried me (if i were an investor of Tesla) is that he has no problem spending company's money for any R&D projects that may not have business benefits to the company but only for his own likes and "hobbies". I think, he's this kind of a personality, which is great for world's technology, but may not be good for people who pay his expenses, such as investors. This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 9 2017, 09:38 PM |
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Aug 10 2017, 04:42 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 9 2017, 11:00 PM) where is oil going? strong resistance at 50.... us stocks dropping but not rig count. libya/opec production rising, saudi says "i cut"... weaky $, venezuela on brink of civil war, n korean "nuclear icbm"...? wti been sitting at 49-50 for 10 sessions now. can't cross 50, great support at 49... |
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Aug 11 2017, 02:07 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Aug 10 2017, 10:32 PM) looking at GOOGL for below 850.... nice broad market pull back these few days....could it last a little longer this round? i wish it could.... This post has been edited by yok70: Aug 11 2017, 02:08 AM |
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Aug 17 2017, 10:19 PM
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i'm still waiting for a meaningful correction....so far it's not coming yet, not even 5%, should i forget about 8%-10%?
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Aug 22 2017, 11:01 PM
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this bull really cannot play play. just corrected a little few days back, now already want to rebound. the buy on dip strategy seems broadly used by most investors now.
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Aug 26 2017, 01:44 AM
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nvidia seems struggling to stay above the strong support 164....
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Sep 1 2017, 03:31 AM
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Sep 1 2017, 04:13 AM
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Sep 5 2017, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Sep 5 2017, 10:38 PM) Hey guys, it's working... after the nuclear scare on Friday and hurricane in US, crude finally bouncing back. ya, buy the dip. but all the dips so far have been too shallow...still wishing to see a 8-10% dip at least, if not my preferable 10-15%. But, general Market dipping.. could be good opportunity to buy dips. |
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