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 USA Stock Discussion v8, Brexit: What happens now?

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Medufsaid
post Oct 11 2025, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 11 2025, 06:32 AM)
which platform is the best and cheapest to invest in QQQ monthly?
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IBKR USD0.35 per trade (up to USD 5 digits and more)
FSMOne USD0.24 per RM1,000 invested (sending US stocks from FSMOne to IBKR will be USD2 per stock counter)
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post Oct 11 2025, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Oct 11 2025, 03:33 AM)
thank you. Now I know why market weird today.

Same as usual, Trump has a very big mouth.

Usually I sleep at 2-3 am. But today i am forced to stay until 4am. I am hoping my OTM options expired worthless.
And i always sell my weekly options on Friday. But I think i skip this week.
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Hi, how your options fared? Puts options? What are the tickers hehe
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post Oct 11 2025, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Oct 11 2025, 03:33 AM)
thank you. Now I know why market weird today.

Same as usual, Trump has a very big mouth.

Usually I sleep at 2-3 am. But today i am forced to stay until 4am. I am hoping my OTM options expired worthless.
And i always sell my weekly options on Friday. But I think i skip this week.
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Next week may be a good time to sell put options, especially if you are not in the market as yet. If stocks get assigned, can be a good starting point to accumulate stocks. If aldy invested in the US mkts, it's a bloodbath but if you have sufficient capital, you can start BTFD, as per Ramjade's advice to make money longterm in the US mkt.
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post Oct 11 2025, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(luminaryxi @ Oct 11 2025, 11:23 AM)
Hi, how your options fared? Puts options? What are the tickers hehe
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recently i trade weekly HOOD, NVDA and SOFI options

to be honest, i dont know i will be assigned or not.

final deadline to exercise is typically 5:30 p.m. ET on the expiration date.
Meaning from 4pm to 5.30pm EST is beyond options seller control. If some options buyer want to exercise at this time, i might get assigned

I got short NVDA 180 Oct10 position, and if you check NVDA after hours chart, NVDA went below 180 from 5.16pm ET
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post Oct 11 2025, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(john123x @ Oct 11 2025, 12:54 PM)
recently i trade weekly HOOD, NVDA and SOFI options

to be honest, i dont know i will be assigned or not.

final deadline to exercise is typically 5:30 p.m. ET on the expiration date.
Meaning from 4pm to 5.30pm EST is beyond options seller control. If some options buyer want to exercise at this time, i might get assigned

I got short NVDA 180 Oct10 position, and if you check NVDA after hours chart, NVDA went below 180 from 5.16pm ET
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Pls let us know. I thought 4.30pm is the cut off time, so if it doesn't hit 180 by then, you are safe.
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post Oct 11 2025, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(swiss228 @ Oct 11 2025, 01:41 PM)
Pls let us know. I thought 4.30pm is the cut off time, so if it doesn't hit 180 by then, you are safe.
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actually, when something like yday happened, all bets are off.

the put holder may choose to exercise the option because it wanted to get rid of its nvda position...

Trading vs Exercise cutoff time is different.

But hopefully he didn't get exercised of course... nod.gif
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post Oct 11 2025, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Oct 11 2025, 02:38 PM)
actually, when something like yday happened, all bets are off.

the put holder may choose to exercise the option because it wanted to get rid of its nvda position...

Trading vs Exercise cutoff time is different.

But hopefully he didn't get exercised of course...  nod.gif
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Not really. For put if not in the money system will not assign it. Buyer can manually choose to exercise it. Also after hours it's entirely up the buyer to manually exercise it.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Oct 11 2025, 04:03 PM
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post Oct 11 2025, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 11 2025, 03:09 PM)
Not really. If put of the money system will not assign it. Buyer can manually choose to exercise it. Also after hours it's entirely up the buyer to manually exercise it.
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Yeah. What you said is same same as what I described. John is the put seller.

He is waiting for the system to settle and find out if he kena assigned.

Judging at the official closing price of nvda, hopefully no buyer choose to exercise.
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post Oct 11 2025, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(swiss228 @ Oct 11 2025, 01:41 PM)
Pls let us know. I thought 4.30pm is the cut off time, so if it doesn't hit 180 by then, you are safe.
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it expires without being exercised
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post Oct 11 2025, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(GalaxyV @ Oct 11 2025, 08:39 AM)
got but i dunno how to do to save all
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What you mean don't know how to save all?
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post Oct 11 2025, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Oct 11 2025, 08:45 AM)
If QQQ is down 70%, then SPX should be down at least 50%. Not that much safer.
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I do not do index investing but i would say all returns has their risk and the probability of said risk.

If we plot the voo and qqq historical sharpe ratio against buffett indicator. The difference between voo and qqq risk adjusted return would make sense to prefer qqq when market is low or moderately priced as the probability of drawdown is not high so the risk is worth taking for the returns.

But given current context and without the power of hindsight, i would say voo would be the better choice currently, as a over valued market would amplify each percentile of risk you take vs its return.
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post Oct 11 2025, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 10 2025, 10:38 PM)
You can if all your life you have been exposed to volatility or you don't depend on the value of your portfolio to survive.
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I guess there is a fine line between informed risk taking and survivorship biases.

The new global monetary policy is really creating a sense of complacency in markets that people are dismissing the wisdom of old.

I myself is also having a hard time juggling between growth investing and fundamental investing.
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Oct 11 2025, 05:25 PM)
I guess there is a fine line between informed risk taking and survivorship biases.

The new global monetary policy is really creating a sense of complacency in markets that people are dismissing the wisdom of old.

I myself is also having a hard time juggling between growth investing and fundamental investing.
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If you have been investing long enough, even COVID crash is nothing but feels wow this is it. Once a lifetime opportunity as you watched people panic.

It's the same. If a company is doing well, the price will follow.
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post Oct 11 2025, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 11 2025, 08:01 PM)
If you have been investing long enough, even COVID crash is nothing but feels wow this is it. Once a lifetime opportunity as you watched people panic.

It's the same. If a company is doing well, the price will follow.
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There has been no real crashes ever since QE was introduced, which is close to 20 years now.

Majority of people would have never imagine how long it took if you invest in nifty fifty or dotcom to recover from an actual crash via organic market cycle for tech focused growth stock. Hence i say the complacency.
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Went in around 4 am to scoop something ....not enought sleep ler....
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Oct 11 2025, 08:14 PM)
There has been no real crashes ever since QE was introduced, which is close to 20 years now.

Majority of people would have never imagine how long it took if you invest in nifty fifty or dotcom to recover from an actual crash via organic market cycle for tech focused growth stock. Hence i say the complacency.
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Yes. That's right. Sadly nowadays crash is few days and then recover. If it stays down longer the better. More chances to scoop.
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post Oct 11 2025, 09:15 PM

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I love Trump.

Short seller says thank you very much.
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post Oct 12 2025, 07:18 AM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Oct 11 2025, 09:15 PM)
I love Trump.

Short seller says thank you very much.
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Trump is the person to bring down prices. Go trump.
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post Oct 12 2025, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 12 2025, 07:18 AM)
Trump is the person to bring down prices. Go trump.
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Hopefully he will be too busy with the Middleast tomorrow and not TACO too soon.
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post Oct 12 2025, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Oct 12 2025, 03:30 PM)
Hopefully he will be too busy with the Middleast tomorrow and not TACO too soon.
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Hopefully he tank the stock market some more. I got lots of things to buy

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