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AVFAN
post Jul 11 2016, 07:13 PM

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dow/s&p may hit new record highs tonight.


but crude...looking bad, again... sweat.gif

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During the recent financial crisis, crude production overhang was 138 million barrels. Now, the overhang is twice that, at 383 million barrels among the OECD, Cohen said.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/08/oils-reboun...e-barclays.html


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post Jul 11 2016, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 11 2016, 10:22 PM)
Wow... yes indeed. All time high for Dow and SP500 yet Crude is struggling here at $45.
There was a quick dip to 44.55... it may not hold any longer if general market pulls back.
Danger zone here.  nod.gif
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it's heading for 44.

time to go short! tongue.gif

i am surprised xle is still green...



strong market rally. nasdaq going 5k again.

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post Jul 12 2016, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 11 2016, 11:45 PM)
Here they go.. they're predicting same thing:

https://www.thestreet.com/video/13634428/he...six-months.html

We'll just continue to play this range.   nod.gif

From here, it looks like we got more upside than down side.
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"oil market becoming more balanced..."

i actually can't understand that... when stockpiles are still building, production still on the rise and demand not rising that much.

i am somehow curiously fearsome that one day soon, somebody won't/can't hold their stocks anymore. tongue.gif

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post Jul 12 2016, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jul 12 2016, 12:59 AM)
its 44+ now...heading for 42, then 40? recent rally and uptrend has been mystifying.
only consolation is that local petrol price might dip again, lol ...
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43 will not be easy to break.

tmrw/wed, the api-eia game returns.

these two fellas never fail to create havoc every week.

get ready! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 12 2016, 01:55 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 12 2016, 01:44 AM)
Anyone here got a non-leverage inverse Oil chart that we can see?
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closest would be szo, inverse of uso.

http://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SZO?ltr=1
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post Jul 12 2016, 02:01 AM

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here's another analyst saying "oil market is now more balanced, tighter...".
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/10/oil-near-2-...et-balance.html

then somewhere in the text, it reads:
Other data from Friday showed hedge funds cut bullish bets on U.S. crude to the lowest in four months.

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post Jul 12 2016, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 12 2016, 02:22 AM)
Thanks! This one is interesting...
Lotsa of gaps on this ETF. Must not be liquid..

Anyway, I put that SZO ticker on StockChart.. it's coming up on that 200ma line around 90.
We need it to break up that line to be considered bullish for this inverse ETF.  nod.gif

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SZO&p=D&y...id=p48511706764
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yes, this szo is very low volume, not much interest.



it's closing time, wti dives back to 44.70.

despite broad market rally.

i see it going to 44.2x tmrw.

holding my dwti! tongue.gif



anyway, today... biggest winners are tech and financials... nice gains for my xlf and goog! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 12 2016, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 12 2016, 02:35 AM)
oil bull or bear? bear or bull? ...... rclxub.gif

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oil bear, mama bear.

papa bear coming.


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post Jul 12 2016, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 12 2016, 02:56 AM)
Interesting tidbits..
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/asian-refine...-172300585.html

Should we expect RON 95/97 to drop soon?  They just raise that from last month, right?
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may - crude price up
june - overall flat

july - dropped. if it continues to drop or stay low, petrol price should go down, 10-15 sen/l.



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post Jul 12 2016, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 12 2016, 04:08 PM)
still fighting 45.... laugh.gif
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like we have seen many times, even a small piece of positive news will send the oil bulls rallying!

Oil prices rise on Iraq loading worries; bearish investors cap gains

will see later if the usual pattern emerges - asian/european traders will push it up high, then drop like hell just before nymex opens. biggrin.gif



but really, the fall has been too sharp, some recovery is to be expected...
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post Jul 12 2016, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 12 2016, 07:23 PM)
46.xx at the moment.... laugh.gif
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i will be at the keyboard at 9.30pm. biggrin.gif

dow futures now +7x; if it goes lower, wti will likely dive.

i will go dwti again if it stays up high. tongue.gif

there is no big reason for wti to rally except for the iraq thingy which is supposedly resolved now.

and the usual "weak $"...

but must not forget the fabulous api insider info syndrome later in the session.

fun night ahead. laugh.gif

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post Jul 12 2016, 09:39 PM

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for the record: biggrin.gif


Dow breaks above all-time closing high, up 100 points

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post Jul 12 2016, 10:17 PM

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this wti...

up 4% in 5hrs, then down 2% in 1 hr... sweat.gif
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post Jul 12 2016, 10:27 PM

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looks like some profit taking now.
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post Jul 12 2016, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 12 2016, 10:29 PM)
The only thing to fear is usually there is a sudden black swan event in the next few days to bring down the entire market, with the media cooking up another similar horror story like Brexit.
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that always happen.

broad market has stretched a lot since brexit.

feeling a little chicken, wanna sell some now. tongue.gif


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post Jul 12 2016, 11:27 PM

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i just went dwti 81.

don't wanna miss the "api-eia conflict" game tmrw. biggrin.gif
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post Jul 12 2016, 11:49 PM

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sweat.gif sweat.gif

incredible!
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post Jul 13 2016, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 13 2016, 12:00 AM)
My eyes deceiving me..  rclxub.gif

I went out for a while, and it came back roaring to 46.65?  shocking.gif

Wow.. danger zone if u play today. 
Can get whack both ways.  sweat.gif
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will see if it holds by 2.30am.


today's rally is across the board - all sectors.
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post Jul 13 2016, 01:43 AM

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40 more mins.

may have to surrender... sad.gif
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post Jul 13 2016, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 13 2016, 02:15 AM)
i sold too early....5% less.... doh.gif
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no la... the volatility gets to you - cold feet, very normal. biggrin.gif



looking at the gyrations in the last few minutes, i will hold until tmrw.

maybe api will report +3.3mil instead of experts estimate of -3.3mil.

then maybe eia will report -1mil. tongue.gif

really, hard to think it will rally another 3% after 5% today.

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