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USA Stock Discussion v8, Brexit: What happens now?
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AVFAN
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Jul 11 2016, 07:13 PM
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dow/s&p may hit new record highs tonight. but crude...looking bad, again... QUOTE During the recent financial crisis, crude production overhang was 138 million barrels. Now, the overhang is twice that, at 383 million barrels among the OECD, Cohen said.http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/08/oils-reboun...e-barclays.html This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 11 2016, 07:19 PM
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AVFAN
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Jul 11 2016, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 11 2016, 10:22 PM) Wow... yes indeed. All time high for Dow and SP500 yet Crude is struggling here at $45. There was a quick dip to 44.55... it may not hold any longer if general market pulls back. Danger zone here.  it's heading for 44. time to go short! i am surprised xle is still green... strong market rally. nasdaq going 5k again.
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 12:46 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 11 2016, 11:45 PM) Here they go.. they're predicting same thing: https://www.thestreet.com/video/13634428/he...six-months.htmlWe'll just continue to play this range. From here, it looks like we got more upside than down side. "oil market becoming more balanced..." i actually can't understand that... when stockpiles are still building, production still on the rise and demand not rising that much. i am somehow curiously fearsome that one day soon, somebody won't/can't hold their stocks anymore. This post has been edited by AVFAN: Jul 12 2016, 12:46 AM
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(mikehwy @ Jul 12 2016, 12:59 AM) its 44+ now...heading for 42, then 40? recent rally and uptrend has been mystifying. only consolation is that local petrol price might dip again, lol ... 43 will not be easy to break. tmrw/wed, the api-eia game returns. these two fellas never fail to create havoc every week. get ready!
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 12 2016, 01:44 AM) Anyone here got a non-leverage inverse Oil chart that we can see? closest would be szo, inverse of uso. http://finance.yahoo.com/quote/SZO?ltr=1
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 02:01 AM
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here's another analyst saying "oil market is now more balanced, tighter...". http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/10/oil-near-2-...et-balance.htmlthen somewhere in the text, it reads: Other data from Friday showed hedge funds cut bullish bets on U.S. crude to the lowest in four months.
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 12 2016, 02:22 AM) Thanks! This one is interesting... Lotsa of gaps on this ETF. Must not be liquid.. Anyway, I put that SZO ticker on StockChart.. it's coming up on that 200ma line around 90. We need it to break up that line to be considered bullish for this inverse ETF. http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SZO&p=D&y...id=p48511706764yes, this szo is very low volume, not much interest. it's closing time, wti dives back to 44.70. despite broad market rally. i see it going to 44.2x tmrw. holding my dwti! anyway, today... biggest winners are tech and financials... nice gains for my xlf and goog!
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 02:37 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 12 2016, 02:35 AM) oil bull or bear? bear or bull? ......  oil bear, mama bear. papa bear coming.
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 12 2016, 02:56 AM) Interesting tidbits.. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/asian-refine...-172300585.htmlShould we expect RON 95/97 to drop soon? They just raise that from last month, right? may - crude price up june - overall flat july - dropped. if it continues to drop or stay low, petrol price should go down, 10-15 sen/l.
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 05:42 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 12 2016, 04:08 PM) still fighting 45....  like we have seen many times, even a small piece of positive news will send the oil bulls rallying! Oil prices rise on Iraq loading worries; bearish investors cap gainswill see later if the usual pattern emerges - asian/european traders will push it up high, then drop like hell just before nymex opens. but really, the fall has been too sharp, some recovery is to be expected...
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 12 2016, 07:23 PM) 46.xx at the moment....  i will be at the keyboard at 9.30pm. dow futures now +7x; if it goes lower, wti will likely dive. i will go dwti again if it stays up high. there is no big reason for wti to rally except for the iraq thingy which is supposedly resolved now. and the usual "weak $"... but must not forget the fabulous api insider info syndrome later in the session. fun night ahead.
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 09:39 PM
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for the record: Dow breaks above all-time closing high, up 100 points
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 10:17 PM
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this wti... up 4% in 5hrs, then down 2% in 1 hr...
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 10:27 PM
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looks like some profit taking now.
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 12 2016, 10:29 PM) The only thing to fear is usually there is a sudden black swan event in the next few days to bring down the entire market, with the media cooking up another similar horror story like Brexit. that always happen. broad market has stretched a lot since brexit. feeling a little chicken, wanna sell some now.
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AVFAN
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Jul 12 2016, 11:27 PM
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i just went dwti 81. don't wanna miss the "api-eia conflict" game tmrw.
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AVFAN
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Jul 13 2016, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jul 13 2016, 12:00 AM) My eyes deceiving me.. I went out for a while, and it came back roaring to 46.65? Wow.. danger zone if u play today. Can get whack both ways.  will see if it holds by 2.30am. today's rally is across the board - all sectors.
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AVFAN
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Jul 13 2016, 01:43 AM
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40 more mins. may have to surrender...
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AVFAN
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Jul 13 2016, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Jul 13 2016, 02:15 AM) i sold too early....5% less....  no la... the volatility gets to you - cold feet, very normal. looking at the gyrations in the last few minutes, i will hold until tmrw. maybe api will report +3.3mil instead of experts estimate of -3.3mil. then maybe eia will report -1mil. really, hard to think it will rally another 3% after 5% today.
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