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Davidtcf
post Jun 24 2022, 07:05 PM

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Amazon stock shot up to 112+. Bought mine at 109 two days ago. Looking good. thumbup.gif

More upside to come.

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post Jun 24 2022, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(sgh @ Jun 24 2022, 06:51 PM)
If you read my post again I mention Point 3 and that is you need to do periodic selling of the stock. There are various strategies and one of them is once it is X% over my average buy-in price, sell some shares to lock in profits. I also ask other readers are your strategies all about buying via DCA and no selling? At some point in time need to sell lock in profits correct else why invest in stock market? For those long term investors some may sell all when reach retirement age and that by itself is a strategy.

DCA works if it is upward trend over X years until the day one sell all to lock in profits. That is also why risk of individual stock is always much higher over ETF (basket of stocks) and for some individual stock they can never recover at all as in forever cannot see upward only downtrend and worst get delisted. How I know is becuz in my younger times I dabble in SGX penny stock those that is 20 cents each. Delisted I get a piece of A4 paper say I own X shares and some no paper nothing.
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Oops now I see your point. smile.gif
RayleighH
post Jun 24 2022, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Jun 24 2022, 07:01 PM)
thats insanely good return, i would be happy to get just half of that.
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The number at least seems to somewhat tally with the price movement. If you have bought at the third entry price of 44.37, the price now has went up by 15x. Of course the million dollar question is, going forward will you be able to spot another company's stock price which will behave similarly? For me, I am unable to do so yet, thus my apprehension to investing in individual stocks.

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Boon3
post Jun 24 2022, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 24 2022, 07:00 PM)
a lot of traders started as investors... before finding enlightenment as traders... smile.gif

but he's not mocking investors lah... just saying don't stupidity dca... but somehow got lots of ppl excited... lol
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post Jun 24 2022, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 24 2022, 07:08 PM)
Exactly!

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you started the fire... you put it out... laugh.gif

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post Jun 24 2022, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 24 2022, 07:13 PM)
you started the fire... you put it out... laugh.gif
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RayleighH
post Jun 24 2022, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jun 24 2022, 06:49 PM)
I use your recent example with TSLA. Dates mention is as close as I can get for the share price that you have posted. Now, I still do not have my head wrap around terms like TWR and MWR. How to make heads and tails when comparing to CAGR, for example.  rclxub.gif

So if there are any mistakes feel free to correct me. If you feel the need or generosity to teach me, I also appreciate it. The more we all learn the better.

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Apologies for the formatting. I don't know how to paste tables in this forum.

Price as of calculation: 705.21 (24/06/2022)

Status | Date | Price | CAGR | Start Price | End Price | Period returns | <--- + 1
Buy | 01/11/2017 | 061.31 | 069% | 0061.31 | 0052.65 | -0.141 | 0.859 |
Buy | 01/04/2018 | 052.65 | 085% | 0105.30 | 0088.74 | -0.157 | 0.843 |
Buy | 27/08/2019 | 044.37 | 166% | 0133.11 | 0250.53 | 0.882 | 1.882 |
Buy | 01/01/2020 | 083.51 | 136% | 0334.04 | 2323.52 | 5.956 | 6.956 |
Buy | 09/06/2021 | 580.88 | 020% | 2904.40 | 3251.40 | 0.119 | 1.119 |
Buy | 25/05/2022 | 650.28 | 174% | 3901.68 | 4231.26 | 0.084 | 1.084 |
Sell | 24/06/2022 | -4231.26 |     

TWR = 1050%
Annualized TWR = 69%
MWR = 85%

Total money invested: 1,473
Total profit: 2,758
Simple cumulative return: 187%

Is this a decent return for over ~5 years, up to each individual to decide.

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If follow Boon Gor's advice to don't DCA up nor down:
Total money invested: 61.31
Total profit: 643.90
Simple cumulative return: 1050%

Remaining 1,411.69 investment money, probably parked elsewhere.

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TWR formula:

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Annualized TWR formula:

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MWR Formula = Excel's XIRR function.
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Boon3 Please comment. In your opinion, this DCA viable boh? Or maybe there are mistakes in my calculation?

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AthrunIJ
post Jun 24 2022, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jun 24 2022, 06:48 PM)
I tell you my 2nd Auntie gonna bring rotan come. tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2022, 10:19 PM

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fake rally right? right? dont buy the dip right? lol...
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post Jun 24 2022, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(james.6831 @ Jun 24 2022, 10:19 PM)
fake rally right? right? dont buy the dip right? lol...
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so you think market has bottomed... prices will only go up from here to all time high... won't go lower again? this is what you are implying... right? right? smile.gif

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post Jun 24 2022, 11:13 PM

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I had enter some SPY, Udow, TQQQ for samll rally until end of august,
september

something nice like all short position coming in
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post Jun 24 2022, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 24 2022, 10:32 PM)
so you think market has bottomed... prices will only go up from here to all time high... won't go lower again? this is what you are implying... right? right? smile.gif
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If you have seen past months trend it is like short rally then fall again as fed announce rate hike. So earlier some readers say wait for fed to finish their job then enter has some logic? There are more hike rates coming not sure when they are done.
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post Jun 25 2022, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(sgh @ Jun 24 2022, 11:36 PM)
If you have seen past months trend it is like short rally then fall again as fed announce rate hike. So earlier some readers say wait for fed to finish their job then enter has some logic? There are more hike rates coming not sure when they are done.
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thanks... just wanna know what he's thinking with a post like that smile.gif
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Opinion: Lex

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post Jun 25 2022, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Jun 24 2022, 10:32 PM)
so you think market has bottomed... prices will only go up from here to all time high... won't go lower again? this is what you are implying... right? right? smile.gif
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i think no one knows where the market is headed biggrin.gif
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post Jun 25 2022, 01:00 PM

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Market going up now these two days. Really hard to predict.
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post Jun 25 2022, 01:33 PM

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I predicted up... I even post the chart here... wink.gif
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post Jun 25 2022, 03:41 PM

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I DCA in and already up 10%. If I haven't DCA in near the bottom (can never catch the bottom), I wouldn't even be up 10%.

Just waiting for it to fall again so can use my cash to buy more.
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post Jun 25 2022, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jun 24 2022, 07:25 PM)
Boon3 Please comment. In your opinion, this DCA viable boh? Or maybe there are mistakes in my calculation?
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Sigh, looks like it's my fate to be ignored. 😓

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post Jun 26 2022, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(RayleighH @ Jun 24 2022, 07:25 PM)
Boon3 Please comment. In your opinion, this DCA viable boh? Or maybe there are mistakes in my calculation?
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