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TSaeran
post Jun 13 2016, 10:33 AM, updated 10y ago

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Hi all,

Lately my house always suffer power trip randomly; e.g. not because of lightning or switch on appliance. Example; this morning around 4am power trip again.

MCB/ELCB did not trip; but the outside fuse near TNB meter blown. Always happened this way. Usually I replaced this fuse; but it will randomly happened again.

Any idea why it trip this way? And is it normal if I switch off MCB but TNB meter still show movement (very slow)?
TSaeran
post Jun 13 2016, 11:27 AM

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Current overload from outside or inside?

Last time already called TNB, but they asked me to get a technician because probably due to faulty appliance or bad wiring inside the house. But after it happened again this morning; I'm not sure it originated from the house.

This morning, I off MCB; and right when I insert the new fuse it blows.
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post Jun 13 2016, 11:36 AM

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Both. In fact I switch all those in the MCB box.
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post Jun 13 2016, 11:48 AM

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No I didn't check the TEST button, will try it after I put back the fuse.
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post Jun 13 2016, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(pokchik @ Jun 13 2016, 12:10 PM)
if it works (the RCCB can trip using TEST button), then RCCB might not be at fault.
if it doesn't work, then why not try changing your RCCB first, and observe if the external fuse still blow afterwards.

like what MadhavanR mentioned, i also had the experience that normally the external fuse
can just cabut/replace to do anything to your main fuse box.. seldom that we'd have it getting blown (multiple times some more).
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Forgot to add, I have already replaced everything in the MCB box after it happened the second time.

QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 13 2016, 12:32 PM)
Which fuse? the one beside the meter?

- Your's is 3 phase or single phase
- What is usually turned on? like the incident this morning?
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I think its single phase. Nothing unusual switched on.
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post Jun 13 2016, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Jun 13 2016, 01:58 PM)
If I am not mistaken, the fuse beside the meter is slow blow fuse (if its the one beside the meter), it take hell lots of current or high spark of voltage to blow that fused (shorting is one of the method). Or long use of overloading to blow that fused (Long as in > few second).

<Assuming your internal wiring are working> your's situation, the outside fuse blow at random time and internal fused box not trip, and internal Main switch (also fused protected) not blow / trip.  Could happen if somethings / animal move a loose wire in between the meter and fused box inside.
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Yeah I think so too. Already discussed with electrician to install a new wire between meter and MCB.
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post Jun 13 2016, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Jun 13 2016, 03:21 PM)
Did you off all the MCB before insert the fuse?

What you can do is isolated the problem to find out where it happen.

Before insert the fuse again, off all the MCB. off the rccb and take out the main fuse beside the rccb.

If the main fuse doesn't blow, than return back the main fuse. Than the rccb. Than 1 by 1 ON back the mcb. Till the fuse blow again.

Than you can know where it happen.
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Yes; already off all MCB. When inserting the new fuse, sparks come out and the fuse blow.
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post Jun 14 2016, 09:09 AM

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Guys, finally can get electrician to come and see this morning. Will update later.

No; I'm not using any 'creative' wiring to bypass meter. Though previously I do notice the meter tend to spin a bit fast.
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post Jun 15 2016, 02:40 PM

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Update: Confirm wire between meter and MCB was shorted.

 

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